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Post by jackrs113 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:00 pm

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Rocketman wrote:Why does Trunks have his leg over Vegeta.
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But, man....does anyone else think Goku's hand is messed up in that last panel? Too small, maybe?
Yea it look's more like Gohan is reaching up for him. I'm also not a fan of the color version, it just looks weird.


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Post by IncompetentOverlord » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:07 pm

Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece wrote:I still wonder if we'll be seeing any SSJ3 Broly action...
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Post by FuniYamcha » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:28 pm

Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece wrote:I still wonder if we'll be seeing any SSJ3 Broly action...
Oh, I bet we'll being seeing a bunch of "action" with Broly. Maybe some SSJ3BrolyxSuperVegetto, SSJ3BrolyxSSJ3Vegeta, Brol---

Okay, I'm done. And Scarz, chances are you'll have plenty of chances to make jokes given the way this manga is going. Or is it the same, and my mind is just getting dirtier? Oh well.
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Post by Kingdom Heartless » Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:30 pm

Good to see the Cell reference there to tie things together a little better.
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:41 am

Kingdom Heartless wrote:Good to see the Cell reference there to tie things together a little better.
Yeah but suggesting that Broly doesnt hit hard was kind of a bad way to go.
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Post by Maphisto86 » Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:25 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote:
Kingdom Heartless wrote:Good to see the Cell reference there to tie things together a little better.
Yeah but suggesting that Broly doesnt hit hard was kind of a bad way to go.
Yeah I didn't get that. If we can credit Broly with anything it is that he does not pull his punches. :lol: :roll:

The color panels on this page are pretty well done and the only thing I can think of to nitpick is that Goku's hand in the last panel seems a bit small. Other than that, nice job from the new guest artists.

Also it should be obvious that this story was quite different from the original Movie 8 storyline. Which leaves me still perplexed. :?

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Post by rereboy » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:34 pm

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Kingdom Heartless wrote:Good to see the Cell reference there to tie things together a little better.
Yeah but suggesting that Broly doesnt hit hard was kind of a bad way to go.
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Yeah I didn't get that. If we can credit Broly with anything it is that he does not pull his punches. :lol: :roll:
It doesn`t matter how strong a person is if that person doesn`t have the knowledge to use that strength in maximum efficiency.

Imagine Bruce Lee going against someone who is, physically, just as strong as him but who never studied martial arts in any form (for example, someone who just works out a lot and keeps the body in top condition).

Who do you think is able to hit the other one with more power?

Bruce lee, of course. Not because he is stronger than the opponent, but because of his knowledge of martial arts. He would be able to use his strength in maximum efficiency.

Brolly is just like that person with no knowledge of martial arts. His power is incredible, overwhelming, but besides being able to shoot ki blasts and fly (which is basic use of ki in dragon ball) he doesn`t really know how to fight. He just relies in his power and tries to smash everything.

Cell is different.

He has as much knowledge of martial arts and is able to control his ki at least as well as Goku and the others.

Thats why I think that line of dialog is true and it makes a lot of sense.

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Post by DNA » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:42 pm

I really don't get it. It's clear to me that Broly uses wrestling moves all over the place, now apparently he doesn't hit hard and doesn't know how to fight. Really? It's one thing not liking Broly, but when you feel the need to blatantly lie to make the character look bad, it just becomes sad.

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Post by Rocketman » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:55 pm

DNA wrote:I really don't get it. It's clear to me that Broly uses wrestling moves all over the place, now apparently he doesn't hit hard and doesn't know how to fight. Really? It's one thing not liking Broly, but when you feel the need to blatantly lie to make the character look bad, it just becomes sad.
Broly doesn't need anybody to help him look bad.

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Post by IncompetentOverlord » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:27 pm

DNA wrote:I really don't get it. It's clear to me that Broly uses wrestling moves all over the place, now apparently he doesn't hit hard and doesn't know how to fight. Really? It's one thing not liking Broly, but when you feel the need to blatantly lie to make the character look bad, it just becomes sad.
Do you think he ever trained? Broli seems like a character who has tremendous power and potential as a fighter, but never bothers to develop it. Do you think he went on training expeditions like Goku and co., or went out of his way to seek strong opponents? Nobody is lying to badmouth Broli. In fact, it's a compliment in disguise. If Broli was one of those hardworking types who train every day, then he could have easily beaten someone like Cell, given enough time. The fact that he lasted that long against Piccolo, the Saiya-jin, and Oolong without years and years of practice is proof enough of that.
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Post by DNA » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:34 pm

IncompetentOverlord wrote:Do you think he ever trained? Broli seems like a character who has tremendous power and potential as a fighter, but never bothers to develop it. Do you think he went on training expeditions like Goku and co., or went out of his way to seek strong opponents? Nobody is lying to badmouth Broli. In fact, it's a compliment in disguise. If Broli was one of those hardworking types who train every day, then he could have easily beaten someone like Cell, given enough time. The fact that he lasted that long against Piccolo, the Saiya-jin, and Oolong without years and years of practice is proof enough of that.
Well, yes, that's all fine and dandy, but as we've seen in the movie, somehow, he knows how to fight, wrestling, the hows and whys, I don't know, but stating that Broly does not know how to fight is just contradicting facts. And honestly, if anyone feels the need to contradict this, just watch the first and the second Broly movies, pay attention to his moves and cross-reference with wrestling moves. THEN come and talk.

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Post by IncompetentOverlord » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:46 pm

DNA wrote:
IncompetentOverlord wrote:Do you think he ever trained? Broli seems like a character who has tremendous power and potential as a fighter, but never bothers to develop it. Do you think he went on training expeditions like Goku and co., or went out of his way to seek strong opponents? Nobody is lying to badmouth Broli. In fact, it's a compliment in disguise. If Broli was one of those hardworking types who train every day, then he could have easily beaten someone like Cell, given enough time. The fact that he lasted that long against Piccolo, the Saiya-jin, and Oolong without years and years of practice is proof enough of that.
Well, yes, that's all fine and dandy, but as we've seen in the movie, somehow, he knows how to fight, wrestling, the hows and whys, I don't know, but stating that Broly does not know how to fight is just contradicting facts. And honestly, if anyone feels the need to contradict this, just watch the first and the second Broly movies, pay attention to his moves and cross-reference with wrestling moves. THEN come and talk.
I HAVE seen all 3 Broli movies. And yes, I see the wrestling references in his style. Broli kind of knows how to fight. He at least underwent some basic Saiya-jin combat training with his father, and he probably made up some of his own stuff when he was out smashing planets and whatnot. He wasn't just swinging his arms around. However, he didn't do anything like train for years and years honing his skill and obvious natural talent.

Son Goku and his friends got the 240 volume ultimate guide to martial arts. Broli got a three page summary and a Post-it note that said "Go Wild".
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Post by DNA » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:17 pm

IncompetentOverlord wrote:I HAVE seen all 3 Broli movies. And yes, I see the wrestling references in his style. Broli kind of knows how to fight. He at least underwent some basic Saiya-jin combat training with his father, and he probably made up some of his own stuff when he was out smashing planets and whatnot. He wasn't just swinging his arms around. However, he didn't do anything like train for years and years honing his skill and obvious natural talent.

Son Goku and his friends got the 240 volume ultimate guide to martial arts. Broli got a three page summary and a Post-it note that said "Go Wild".
Well but you're an incompetent overlord, how does your opinion count? Huh?
Now seriously, I do see were you're coming from, and you're right, but there ya go, saying "he doesn't know how to fight" and saying "he hasn't got the same experience as Goku and friends" are 2 very different things. Broly does know how to fight, in his own very special way... We all know he's a very special boy.

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Post by rereboy » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:00 pm

DNA wrote:I really don't get it. It's clear to me that Broly uses wrestling moves all over the place, now apparently he doesn't hit hard and doesn't know how to fight. Really? It's one thing not liking Broly, but when you feel the need to blatantly lie to make the character look bad, it just becomes sad.
What?

How exactly does stating that he pretty much invulnerable to attacks and that his power is always rising to insane levels is making Brolly "look bad"?

I agree with the line in this last page 100%, even looking back at movie 8.

Brolly`s knowledge of martial arts and fighting is laughable when we compare it to other fighters. The way he fights is pretty much the way I would fight if I had his power, and I never learned martial arts.

But he is a monster of power. And that is what makes him dangerous. God forbid if he ever learned how to completely control his ki and developed some ki and fighting techniques.

He is not any less dangerous than Cell (power levels aside). He is just a different type of opponent.

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:57 pm

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DNA wrote:I really don't get it. It's clear to me that Broly uses wrestling moves all over the place, now apparently he doesn't hit hard and doesn't know how to fight. Really? It's one thing not liking Broly, but when you feel the need to blatantly lie to make the character look bad, it just becomes sad.


He is not any less dangerous than Cell (power levels aside). He is just a different type of opponent.
Thats what Salagir should have made Goku say. If you look back at movie 8 Broly actually manages to knock every out until Piccolo arrives with senzu. He can also control his ki, remember he used that Football sized energy ball to destroy that planet.
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Post by rereboy » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:16 pm

I believe that is implied in the dialog because that was what I interpreted. Krillin was saying that after Brolly, Cell would be easy. Goku doesn`t agree, because despite Brolly`s power and invulnerability, Brolly had much to master, all of which were long mastered by Cell, who is also very powerful. He is just another dangerous type of opponent.

And shooting a ki blast is the basic of ki control in DB. He can shoot generic ki blasts and he can fly. Thats all he can do.

Shooting ki blasts isn`t a big deal when you`ve got as much power as Brolly. Remember Gohan. When he was 4 or 5 years old, he was shooting ki blasts when he needed to, without anybody teaching him. Example: when piccolo threw him against that giant boulder and he vaporized it.

He could do this due to his tremendous potential, something that Brolly also has.

After that Piccolo left him in the desert and after a few months alone he was able to shoot ki blasts to cook meat without anybody teaching him.

So, when you are powerful, releasing ki blasts is something that comes naturally.

Besides that Brolly learned how to fly. And thats it. Add to that the fact that he never learned martial arts to the degree that Goku and the others did, and Goku`s remarks became valid.

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Post by verto » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:49 am

While I agree with both points some-what, Broly doesn't really NEED to know how to fight if he can take a pointblank kamehameha to the face and laugh it off. The whole not being able to punch hard bit... I can see where thats coming from theoretically (and realistically). But this is dragonball Z. I'm pretty sure the scene where Broly lifts Goku up by his hair drops him and punches him in the stomach REALLY hard shows that he can punch really fucking hard. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember another point in the series that showed that much damage to surrounding areas from a punch... excluding hits from SS3 Goku and Buu colliding.
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Post by Kingdom Heartless » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:09 am

It's one thing not liking Broly, but when you feel the need to blatantly lie to make the character look bad, it just becomes sad.
I highly doubt that's what they're doing... if anything, they've been playing up Broly since the beginning. Considering how much attention and page time he's gotten, I doubt they've done anything through a dislike for him.
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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:04 pm

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Salagir wrote:This special Chapter on Broly is finished... and no, he's not dead yet! He's just... kept away, for a very long time...

It finishes with the cover... it looks strange... and yet, yes it is ! We will exchange this cover with the previous one when time comes...

Congrats, and thanks to Albertocubatas who draw this special!!

We'll keep the rhythm of 3 pages per week until the end of the year... merry (insert here your personal December's celebration) and a happy new year!!
Hmmm...seems they'll be switching out covers...I think...
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Post by Rocketman » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:05 pm

Heh, Goku tripped and is trying to catch himself.

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