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Post by Greenman » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:54 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Y'know, I was watching the last few episodes on this yesterday, and it really does suck not being able to switch over to the dub music given the quality I was now watching it in. There were so many moments that I wanted to truly enjoy in the best quality, but alas, I can't :(
Yup, that's the only thing I really dislike about the Dragon Boxes. I'd rather have Faulconer's music since I (mostly) don't give a crap about the dub without it.

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Post by SuperSaiyan3Goku » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:01 pm

I kinda wish the Dub music was in it, just for memories.

But I guess I'll just keep my singles for that. :cry:
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Post by penguintruth » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:06 pm

I'm glad Funimation has phased out that abominable Casio "music", but I'm guessing that the dub seems a little off without it. I mean, if you're a fan of the Japanese version, you aren't going to watch the dub, because it's innacurate. And if you're a fan of the dub, you're probably used to the dub music. So who is that dub track with the Japanese music for, exactly?

Still, Funimation is taking a step forward by ridding themselves of that stuff.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:25 pm

Yeah, my thought is it must be for new fans and to pimp out on their demo reel: "See, we didn't screw up DBZ that bad! We kept the original music in at least!"
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Post by email2003 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:05 pm

I was listening on the dub and had the subs on and good lord!!!! The English dub is no where even close to the original script!! What a horrible dub DBZ had. :shock:

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Post by jjgp1112 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:31 pm

penguintruth wrote:I'm glad Funimation has phased out that abominable Casio "music", but I'm guessing that the dub seems a little off without it. I mean, if you're a fan of the Japanese version, you aren't going to watch the dub, because it's innacurate. And if you're a fan of the dub, you're probably used to the dub music. So who is that dub track with the Japanese music for, exactly?

Still, Funimation is taking a step forward by ridding themselves of that stuff.
It's not because it sounds off to me...I just don't enjoy it substantially less. During scenes like when Frieza and Vegeta were at a stand off, or when Gohan snapped when Frieza got impaled, I wanted so badly to watch those scenes with the dub music because of how well done those scenes were in comparison to the Japanese version. The Frieza saga was pretty much the beginning of the slow decline of the Japanese score, finally hitting the "suck" point around the Buu saga or so.
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Re: Dragon Box Z 2's Hands On Discussion

Post by penguintruth » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:35 pm

email2003 wrote:I was listening on the dub and had the subs on and good lord!!!! The English dub is no where even close to the original script!! What a horrible dub DBZ had. :shock:
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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:39 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
penguintruth wrote:I'm glad Funimation has phased out that abominable Casio "music", but I'm guessing that the dub seems a little off without it. I mean, if you're a fan of the Japanese version, you aren't going to watch the dub, because it's innacurate. And if you're a fan of the dub, you're probably used to the dub music. So who is that dub track with the Japanese music for, exactly?

Still, Funimation is taking a step forward by ridding themselves of that stuff.
It's not because it sounds off to me...I just don't enjoy it substantially less. During scenes like when Freeza and Vegeta were at a stand off, or when Gohan snapped when Freeza got impaled, I wanted so badly to watch those scenes with the dub music because of how well done those scenes were in comparison to the Japanese version. The Freeza saga was pretty much the beginning of the slow decline of the Japanese score, finally hitting the "suck" point around the Buu saga or so.
You could always just whip out a Yamaha keyboard from the 1980's and hit the 'Demo' button. ;p
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Post by penguintruth » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:51 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:You could always just whip out a Casio from the 1980's and hit the 'Demo' button. ;p
Hey hey, only one Casio joke a thread!
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.


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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:59 pm

penguintruth wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:You could always just whip out a Casio from the 1980's and hit the 'Demo' button. ;p
Hey hey, only one Casio joke a thread!
Fixed. Now I'm completely unique. ;p
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Post by penguintruth » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:05 am

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
penguintruth wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:You could always just whip out a Casio from the 1980's and hit the 'Demo' button. ;p
Hey hey, only one Casio joke a thread!
Fixed. Now I'm completely unique. ;p
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Post by Castor Troy » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:41 am

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
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penguintruth wrote:I'm glad Funimation has phased out that abominable Casio "music", but I'm guessing that the dub seems a little off without it. I mean, if you're a fan of the Japanese version, you aren't going to watch the dub, because it's innacurate. And if you're a fan of the dub, you're probably used to the dub music. So who is that dub track with the Japanese music for, exactly?

Still, Funimation is taking a step forward by ridding themselves of that stuff.
It's not because it sounds off to me...I just don't enjoy it substantially less. During scenes like when Freeza and Vegeta were at a stand off, or when Gohan snapped when Freeza got impaled, I wanted so badly to watch those scenes with the dub music because of how well done those scenes were in comparison to the Japanese version. The Freeza saga was pretty much the beginning of the slow decline of the Japanese score, finally hitting the "suck" point around the Buu saga or so.
You could always just whip out a Yamaha keyboard from the 1980's and hit the 'Demo' button. ;p
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Post by nathantheguitarist » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:03 am

Dammit, we've been over this. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that it was so incredibly easy to make. :|

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Post by penguintruth » Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:04 am

You would think that with all that effort they could produce something that didn't sound like the music bed for a monster truck rally commercial.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:07 am

penguintruth wrote:You would think that with all that effort they could produce something that didn't sound like the music bed for a monster truck rally commercial.
I don't see how you could possibly associate the music in the Faulconer score with that outside a couple of themes from the Android saga that were rarely used. Most of his songs remind me of music from Capcom Games in the early 90s but less MIDI-ish.
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Post by DMaarten » Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:43 am

I still think it is strange/illogical that they threw out the dub music which a lot of people love/like, and replace it with some kind of hybrid instead.
They should have gone with the only logical audio options:
*jap voices and music
*dub voices and music

why was the dub voices+japanese music soundtrack even made in the first place:?:
what were they thinking?

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Post by Greenman » Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:02 am

DMaarten wrote:why was the dub voices+japanese music soundtrack even made in the first place:?:
what were they thinking?
That was just the current FUNimation at work. Nowadays FUNi always keeps the original score.

Overall, I think it's good thing that they made the English/Japanese music track. The season sets had both dub tracks but with Japanese music as the default. That worked out great for those sets because newcomers would automatically get the original music and Faulconer fans could switch if they wanted to.

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Post by coola » Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:03 pm

And now, I'm owner of the Dragon Box Z 2 as well. Thank you Axelmusic. :P
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Post by SSJSteve » Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:10 pm

I got my Dragon Box today! It's amazing. The DVD's and Book look a lot more even which is really good, with my first Dbox the book sticks out a bit. :lol: I remember someone saying that there was quite a bit of yellow at the edge of the box, but it looks fine on mine!

Thank you AxelMusic! Cant wait to watch it.

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Post by Timo » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:38 pm

SSJSteve wrote:I got my Dragon Box today! It's amazing. The DVD's and Book look a lot more even which is really good, with my first Dbox the book sticks out a bit. :lol: I remember someone saying that there was quite a bit of yellow at the edge of the box, but it looks fine on mine!

Thank you AxelMusic! Cant wait to watch it.
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