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Dragon Ball characters' martial arts

Post by ChaojiShucaiRen » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:45 am

Hello everyone I wanted to start out strong on this forum with a (what I think anyways :lol: ) is a somewhat original topic. Now I know that in DB, that the characters rarely or possibly never actually seem to be using any type of "martial art", and the only hint of training in martial arts happened before the manga even starts (i.e. Goku training with his Grandfather and Kuririn training at the monastery).

So to clarify things my question isn't what type of martial art do the Z-senshi and beyond (villains as well) actually use in the manga/anime, but rather, based on your opinions and the characters personalities what martial arts do you feel the characters practice?

To start the thread off, I have always thought that since Freeza is always portrayed as the evil aristocratic type, but is also an 'isn't afraid to get his hands dirty if he needs to' kind of guy and that I feel that his martial arts would be Fencing (if he had a weapon :P ) and when the stakes were high he would bust out a wicked style of French Savat boxing.

I always imagined Freeza's death ray as the proverbial Fencing sabre, used to quickly dispatch of weaker foes and his Savat technique as his secret weapon used to humiliate his opponent (such as Vegeta) or having to really execute his best Savat moves to take out stronger foes such as Goku.

There are literally tons of martial arts and characters to choose from and if you love martial arts like I do, you could probably choose a different martial for each character.

I definitely would like to see everyone's ideas. :)
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Re: Dragon Ball characters' martial arts

Post by The Time Traveller » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:58 am

Isn't it called Budo?

Just regular Japanese martial arts with... flying and ki blasts...

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Post by ChaojiShucaiRen » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:10 pm

Okay let me clarify my post a little bit,

What I meant is that I know that none of the characters actually have any type of real martial art (who would need it when you can blow up a planet with a sneeze) but, that different martial arts seem to connect with different personalities. Thusly, based on that info, depending on the character that it is and their personality-I would like to know which martial art do you feel fits them best.

Here, I'll give an example: Monkey Gong Fu=light hearted and sometimes silly=some peoples opinions of Goku, so therefore I feel that Goku's martial art personality is Monkey Gong Fu.
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:38 pm

Some suggestions...

Trunks - Something like "Kikoukenjutsu" (Spiritual Swordmanship) from Dragon Ball Online. Less of the "elegant swordplay" bit and more focus on the spiritual aspect of swordplay; stuff like channeling ki into the blade and using it in battle effectively. Then learning how to manipulate the chi of the blade into melee attacks that would otherwise be incapable of performing precisely with basic physical techniques, i.e. slicing an opponent in half.

Piccolo - Again, taking something from DBO. The "Madou" (Demon Arts), which would be Piccolo's own unique style of fighting. It would incorporate meditation and demonic techniques.

Kame-Sen'nin - The "Kame" (Turtle) martial arts. Basically, what we see Roshi doing when he's teaching Goku and Kuririn. Yamcha would also follow the "Kame" martial arts after being trained by him.

Tsuru-Sen'nin - The "Tsuru" (Crane) martial arts. Focus on ki control and using ultra-powerful techniques, but at the great cost of chi.

Yamcha - The Rogafufu martial arts. Focus on fast attacks to take opponents by surprise, and learning how to defeat opponents in elegant fashion.

Tenshinhan & Chaozu - Like the Tsuru martial arts, only lesser on the ultra-powerful chi-costing techniques.

Son Goku - The Monkey Arts. More light-hearted, freestyle martial arts, involving improvised attacks designed to catch opponents off-guard.

Captain Ginyu - The Ginyu Arts (yeah, running out of names, I know). Focus on elaborate battle poses and attacks.

Butta - Focus on speed, and learning how to utilise it to create strongest attacks possible.

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Post by Ketchup_Revenge » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:49 pm

I've always considered Goku to be taught in something similar to real-life Wushu (modern day kung-fu). I think I remember Toriyama saying something about Goku and Grandpa Gohan living in the Dragonworld equivalent of China, as well as Goku's redd-ish colored gi being inspired by the monks of the Shoalin temple.
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Post by Kendamu » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:49 pm

The Time Traveller wrote:Isn't it called Budo?

Just regular Japanese martial arts with... flying and ki blasts...
Budo is just the Japanese word for "martial arts." From a modern real life standpoint when taking today's Hybrid Martial Arts and Mixed Martial Arts (yes, they're two different things) it's a completely valid term to just say "martial arts."

As for the topic at hand, it seems that the characters started out doing a lot of what looked like traditional styles of Kung Fu and later started streamlining their fighting methods throughout the series. To stay with the Kung Fu vibe for the characters who were there all along, you could say they moved onto Sanda/Sanshou (modern Chinese kickboxing). That, or with the big moment of change in fighting styles coming from Kami and Mr. Popo teaching Goku about efficiency, you could even say that the main characters took up the Jeet Kune Do mindset.

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Post by mystic trunks » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:40 am

"It's the Kame-Sennin style of martial arts."

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Post by Sprite Satan » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:20 pm

Goku is explicitly stated to have learned kung fu from Grandpa Gohan in the very early stages of Dragon Ball. So theoretically, even with his Jan-Ken Punch and shoving his nyoibo up everyone's ass, that's what he's supposed to be doing.

By the time ki blasts and the Kame school came into it most "normal" martial arts were relegated to just being examples of how much better the Dragon Ball versions were. Like Goku wiping the floor with that kenpo master (was it kenpo?) at the 23rd Tenkaichi Tournament.
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Post by Kendamu » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:32 pm

mystic trunks wrote:"It's the Kame-Sennin style of martial arts."
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Post by caejones » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:36 pm

Am I really confused, or am I the only one who gets what the question was?
ChaojiShucaiRen wrote:So to clarify things my question isn't what type of martial art do the Z-senshi and beyond (villains as well) actually use in the manga/anime, but rather, based on your opinions and the characters personalities what martial arts do you feel the characters practice?
Problem is... I don't know enough about enough Martial Arts to contribute much. :(
I could see Yajirobe being into Sumo when he isn't using his katana.
Piccolo seems to be into nonchalant, minimal-motion quick-kill tactics... I think I actually should know what sort of hand-to-hand style best matches that, but it escapes me presently. -_-

(Totally like the assessment of Freeza, by the way! :D )
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Post by Kendamu » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:38 pm

Most Samurai learned Jujutsu as a hand-to-hand style.

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Post by ChaojiShucaiRen » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:56 pm

caejones wrote:Am I really confused, or am I the only one who gets what the question was?
ChaojiShucaiRen wrote:So to clarify things my question isn't what type of martial art do the Z-senshi and beyond (villains as well) actually use in the manga/anime, but rather, based on your opinions and the characters personalities what martial arts do you feel the characters practice?
Problem is... I don't know enough about enough Martial Arts to contribute much. :(
I could see Yajirobe being into Sumo when he isn't using his katana.
Piccolo seems to be into nonchalant, minimal-motion quick-kill tactics... I think I actually should know what sort of hand-to-hand style best matches that, but it escapes me presently. -_-

(Totally like the assessment of Freeza, by the way! :D )


Thank you :) I didn't want to say anything, but I was waiting to see if anyone would get what I was talking about...although I guess you're right that it does take some knowledge of a lot of martial arts to keep this going, but hey I took a shot at it.

For Piccolo I think you're on to something; it seems like he would not want to waste his time and energy (except when first fighting Freeza sheesh :P ), so to that effect I think he would couple a joint locking martial art such as Qin Na (Chin Na) to disable his opponent and then finish with a very destructive martial art like Kenpo or some brutal style of Shotokan.
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Post by Kendamu » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:24 pm

They all look like they're doing similar punches and kicks. It's their movement strategies or extra appendages that change things up.

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Post by Saiyajin no Tatsujin » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:53 pm

I would see Goku as a master of T'ai Chi Ch'uan (which literally translates as "supreme ultimate fist"), based on his unmatched ability to control and utilize his own Chi (or Ki) during a fight.

If we're talking facts, then it's pretty obvious that Goku was taught Chinese Kung Fu, as a boy, by his adopted guardian, Son Gohan. Not any specific style, but pretty much the basics. The first episode of Dragon Ball clearly shows this.

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Post by Son_Gohan » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:53 pm

Android 17 - Kung Fu; based on the strikes and fighting stances he uses and Judo; based on his grappling and from an anime scene against Piccolo, where he uses an Ippon Seoinage.

Nappa - Muay Boran; he throws each strike with full force and intent to kill, barely wasting any time to finish his opponent.

Zarbon - Lethwei; after transforming he becomes a complete animal and always presses forward, utilizing brutal attacks like headbutts.

Frieza - Ninjutsu; due to the many different techniques he has in his arsenal, and the fact he uses transformations to hide his true appearance and deceive his opponents.

Android 19 - Sumo; based on his physique and the fact he utilizes palm strikes.

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Post by ChaojiShucaiRen » Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:59 am

Son_Gohan wrote:Android 17 - Kung Fu; based on the strikes and fighting stances he uses and Judo; based on his grappling and from an anime scene against Piccolo, where he uses an Ippon Seoinage.

Nappa - Muay Boran; he throws each strike with full force and intent to kill, barely wasting any time to finish his opponent.

Zarbon - Lethwei; after transforming he becomes a complete animal and always presses forward, utilizing brutal attacks like headbutts.

Freeza - Ninjutsu; due to the many different techniques he has in his arsenal, and the fact he uses transformations to hide his true appearance and deceive his opponents.

Android 19 - Sumo; based on his physique and the fact he utilizes palm strikes.

Good choices! I do have to disagree with Freeza based on his personality, but everyone else would fit those martial arts perfectly.

A few more from me:

Nappa- Based on his size and how he throws his weight around I think that Nappa would be using Val Tudo. Large swinging arms and strong upper knee strikes seem to be something Nappa would try.

Vegeta- I think that Vegeta's martial art would be Xing Yi Quan. He has short powerful burst of energy meant to overwhelm the opponent at the very beginning of their fight. (ex: Vegeta v. Rikum)
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Post by Kendamu » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:14 pm

But... it doesn't look like that...

Whatever. I guess that also means that Goku practices Isshinryu Karate because of how he acted toward the Ginyu Force, but also practiced Jeet Kune Do as Bruce Lee practiced it (as opposed to JKD Concepts) because of how he acted at the 23rd Budoukai despite his fighting never looking like either of those things. That must also make Goku a Ninja because of how he was seeing through all of Murasaki's traps and such. I mean, only a Ninja could do that of another Ninja master, right?

Of course, there was that one time Goku trade knees in a clinch with Vegeta, so by that point he must've learned Muay Thai from the dead despite his clinch being nothing like a Muay Thai clinch and there was no attempt at re-establishing head control at any point.

No, wait. I'm wrong. Goku's a nice guy. That means he practices Aikido... even though his fighting looks nothing like Aikido. Though when he's a Super Saiyan he probably practices UFC because they all look like mean guys.

Sorry, guys. I guess I initially missed the point that it was based on their philosophies and personalities instead of what it looked like they were doing.

No, wait. Some people actually did look at what it looks like. But I'm still wrong for doing that initially?

I think I'm missing the point.

Yeah, I know. "Practices UFC." That's the joke.

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