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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by Khalid Shahin » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:20 pm

During the original Funimation airing when I was 10. My younger sister and I used to think that Androids #17 and #18 were 17 and 18 years old respectively, and maybe the same for #16, can't remember. #19 and #20 were just different so I don't think their numbers reflected their ages.

When I watched the Ocean Dub of Movie 1 around the same time as the above mentioned I assumed that the tournament that they were talking about between Goku and Piccolo had taken place at the beginning of Dragon Ball Z because I didn't see the beginning of DBZ and all I knew of it was the Radditz and Vegeta attack and the tournament had to fit in somewhere in there before Namek, and I was unaware of 153 episodes Dragon Ball before it. Not a weird assumption nor horribly inaccurate, but it was this mindset that brought me to believe that when Dragon Ball came out after DBZ in America it was made after DBZ and they were just making up a backstory to connect the characters, but that belief only lasted a few episodes.

I don't remember a lot of weird assumptions since I jumped into the series at the beginning of the Android Arc so I pieced together and fixed whatever was incorrect and I ended deleting any mistakes from my memory.

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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:49 pm

When I first started watching the show in '98, I saw the little kid in the wilderness who looked and dressed like Goku, and, at first I thought that must be Goku's son, but then I saw the Princess Snake episode where Goku imagines his wife and son running toward him, and the son was in this bright yellow tunic and orange hat and looked absolutely nothing like the other kid, so I assumed the kid who looked and dressed like Goku must be someone completely unrelated. =P

Also, since the series seemed to end after episode 53, I assumed the series must have been cancelled at that point due to lack of popularity, and my reasoning behind that was that it had gotten too repetitive. The previous season had culminated in everyone but Gohan and "Krillin" being beaten up by a large, muscly enemy who had incapacitated the latter and was about to kill the former when Goku miraculously shows up and easily takes him out. Then the second season ends with everyone but Gohan and "Krillin" being beaten up by a large, muscly enemy who incapacitates the latter and is about to kill the former when Goku miraculously shows up and easily takes him out. It didn't bother me, but I figured that blatant story recycling must have been what caused the show to end without reaching a conclusion. ^_^

EDIT: Ooh, also, when I first saw the Fake Namek episodes, I didn't see how that ended. All I knew was that they had collected all but one of the dragonballs. I missed the episodes with the reveal and came back to find that they were suddenly... on Planet Namek...? But they were already! And they'd already collected six dragonballs! I rationalized it in my head by assuming that what I'd seen before was a "test" Namek, and they had to collect all seven of their dragonballs before they were granted access to the real thing.
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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by BobZ » Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:37 pm

When I watched DBZ on CN when it first aired there, I thought for quite some time that it was actually an AMERICAN production and the "Z" proved it. :shock:

I used to lie to my friends at school that the first episode of Dragon Ball included scenes from Planet Vegeta where Goku was prepared to be blasted off to Earth. I actually believed it was true, even though I hadn't seen any real proof.

At the time the commercial for the Freeza Saga was airing, I named Freeza "The Crystal Man". Simply lol.

I refused to believe that Android #20 was in fact Dr. Gero. Not much of an assumption but...

While watching the movies, I pondered how they were entangled in the story. All I got was a headache.

There are plenty more where these came from, but I can't seem to remember them now. Good times though. :)

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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by Castor Troy » Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:50 pm

I used to think the old Shuki Levy score was the original Japanese BGM.

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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by penguintruth » Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:55 pm

Castor Troy wrote:I used to think the old Shuki Levy score was the original Japanese BGM.
I guess you didn't watch Power Rangers, then.
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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by Castor Troy » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:03 pm

penguintruth wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:I used to think the old Shuki Levy score was the original Japanese BGM.
I guess you didn't watch Power Rangers, then.
I watched power rangers!

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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by penguintruth » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:07 pm

Castor Troy wrote:
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Castor Troy wrote:I used to think the old Shuki Levy score was the original Japanese BGM.
I guess you didn't watch Power Rangers, then.
I watched power rangers!
You didn't make the connection, that the Shuki Levy score for DBZ recycled music from Power Rangers?

Well, I can't blame you. It took me a while to catch on, too.
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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by Blue » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:10 pm

I assumed Freeza was a girl.

Budokai 2 was right in saying Kaioshin took Goku to another world to test him. (I hadn't seen the Boo saga at this point but I remember seeing pictures of the Kaioshin realm and Goku being there so...)

DragonBall was an adult show.

The dub's script wasn't that off. Which is weird because I always watched the dub with the subtitles on and clearly saw that it was. I guess you see what you want to see.
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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:14 pm

Blue wrote:I guess you see what you want to see.
This should be the mantra of this forum sometimes! :wink:
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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by caejones » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:48 pm

Penguintruth wrote:
CastorTroy wrote: I watched power rangers!
You didn't make the connection, that the Shuki Levy score for DBZ recycled music from Power Rangers?

Well, I can't blame you. It took me a while to catch on, too.
Ok, seriously... how so?
I'm familiar enough with the soundtrack from MMPR through Countdown to Destruction, and enough of what's beyond that I am baffled by how this continues to come up.
I mean, it's hella obvious you're not referring to the Mighty Raw's vocal tracks. Perhaps some of the "tension" type music from MMPR? Not recycling in the slightest--very different--but that's the most similar music I can think of.
Turbo and PRiS mostly just had a bunch of random bells, horns and synthesizers going... but in a way that differed considerably in style from the DBZ score. Like... I'd be more likely to confuse the PRiS score with that of Reboot than Saban-Era DBZ.
As the timing works out, those are the only seasons of Power Rangers that the Shuki Levy score could have drawn from... and yet...?
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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by Gotham22 » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:52 pm

I always though the whole reincarnation with Kid Buu/Uub was the same with King Piccolo and Piccolo.

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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by fig404 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:03 am

Khalid Shahin wrote:During the original Funimation airing when I was 10. My younger sister and I used to think that Androids #17 and #18 were 17 and 18 years old respectively, and maybe the same for #16, can't remember. #19 and #20 were just different so I don't think their numbers reflected their ages.
Dude, you remember that? :shock:

I should add that (and this is going WAAAAY back) I assumed that Krillin was closer to Gohan's age than Goku's, and I was under the impression that Krillin and Dende were Gohan's best friends. (And probably that they went back and forth to Namek all the time)

I think I didn't realize that Yamcha was older than Goku, until I saw Dragon Ball. I don't even remember when I learned that Piccolo had ever been a bad-guy.

Oh yes, and I believe the biggest misunderstanding of all is that the movies tied-in to the main story.
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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:30 am

I remember that my friend had seen the 13 dubbed Dragon Ball episodes before DBZ was dubbed, but it was already a rather vague thing for him, so he made the very mistaken connection that Pilaf was a young version of Piccolo. Fun stuff there!
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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by Booney » Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:48 am

I guess my weirdest assumption has to be thinking Satan was a main villain in Dragonball.

I had only watched the series from Saiyan to Cell arc.
So when I saw a picture of Satan holding his belt in the air he kinda looked evil in my eyes because of his appearance.
And because he looked human I figured he must have been a character from before Z.
Since I couldn't think of a reason why new human characters would be introduced since at this point in the series all I saw were Saiyans and a Namekian fighting other aliens.
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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by Bura » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:23 am

When I bought an English magazine about DBZ, when I was 13 years old or so, I thought they meant with "uncut DVDs" DVD's without commercial breaks. :lol:

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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by dchan316 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:26 am

Back in the old EGM's ('93 or '94?), they had DBZ Super Butoden in the import sections. They mentioned something about Cell killing Goku, and I thought that was the last of Goku and hes just making a cameo in the game like future Trunks.

And back when the original 13 Dragonball episodes were released here, I wondered why certain parts of the animation seemed to be shaky and kinda sloppy when everything else is nice and clean (Oolong and the "fish full of dollars).

In the first movie, "Curse of the Blood Rubies," I had thought that Penni (as they called her) was an earlier design for Pan.

Soon after DBZ came out here, I got internet and thoroughly combed through Curtis Hoffman's volume summaries, then GT summaries later, so I got all my facts straightened out.

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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by Porphy » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:33 pm

Oh my god!

Your "weird" assumptions are so funny guys!!!! :lol:

I have also weird assumptions on my own, but seeing yours make me feel less stupid :lol:

Because I knew about Trunks's story wayyyyyy before I was addicted to Dragonball (thanks to a French Magazine that spoiled me everything at the time ;_;) when I saw Vegeta and Nappa on their way to Earth (sleeping in their capsules) back in 1996, I really thought that Vegeta was a good guy and the heroes were waiting for him in hope that he could help them to fight the ennemy!!!! (since in that magazine, Vegeta was considered a good guy!).

In The game "Dragonball GT Final Bout" I thought "Little Goku" was actually Goten ("Little Goku" could have been a kind of nickname because of his ressemblance with his father X-D). I also thought that Pan was Son Goku's daughter not his GRANDdaugther.

When I first saw a picture of 17 and 18 on the Internet, I thought that 17 was a kind of "tomboyish girl" :-p

The very first time I saw the original Dragonball on TV I thought at first sight that it was a cartoon based on Chrono Trigger! Since I was a fan of the game at the time, it's what that made me watch this anime! (I was not that far from the truth since Toriyama was the character designer of the game!!!)
In one of the earliest episodes, Bulma is wearing an outfit that looks like a lot like what Marle is wearing. That's what confused me!

BTW the first episode of DBZ I watched was episode 17 in which Tien, Chaozu, Yamcha and Krilin are fighting two "fake" saiyans. Not the best episode around but....it still what make me into DBZ :roll:

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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by Xyex » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:17 pm

Only ones I can remember are:

1) Krillin and Gohan were the same age and best friends that grew up together. (First I saw of Z was a few episodes of Namek, so yeah...)

2) GT Kid Goku was actually Goten and the images I'd seen of him were from the Buu Saga. (Had no clue what GT was about so of course the little Goku had to be Goten, just miss labeled.)

3) SSJ2 looked like SSJ3 and SSJ3 was a man sized Golden Oozaru. (Was actually told this by someone and accepted it as fact.)

That's all I can remember, though I'm sure there were others....
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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by Corporate_Nothing » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:45 pm

I assumed that my DBZ uncut dubbed VHS collection would actually be worth something someday. Now I have a closet full of video tapes collecting dust. Episodes 195-291/180-276, and a few movies. Then DVD came around and made that analog shit obsolete.
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Re: What are some weird assumptions that you've made?

Post by UristtheGreat » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:25 pm

I thought that Mr.Satan was the strongest character, I am dead fucking serious.
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