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Kaboom
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by Kaboom » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:45 pm
Gaffer Tape wrote:Wait. When does Kuririn ever use the Kienzan against Buu in the manga?
He doesn't. Goku does.
Also, Freeza used it too. With it he managed to cut not just Goku (
albeit minorly), but also himself.
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Rocketman
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by Rocketman » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:48 pm
Vegeta cuts off Gohan's tail with it too.
Which might be why he knows what the attack is and tells Nappa to dodge it.
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Kaboom
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by Kaboom » Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:13 am
Based on the shape and delivery of the attack, it's probably pretty easy to predict how it'll work.
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Kid Buu
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by Kid Buu » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:05 pm
Garlic Jr, the guy is immortal.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
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by Piccolo Daimaoh » Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:28 am
Kid Buu wrote:Garlic Jr, the guy is immortal.
But not too strong and prone to getting trapped in inter-dimensional vortexes.
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by GizmoKSX » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:27 pm
Popo. Pecking order. 'nough said.
Freeza being able to survive floating through space with most of his body missing is pretty impressive at the time it happens.
Piccolo regenerating his whole body (offscreen) after being turned to stone and shattered...while it doesn't compare to Cell or Majin Boo, it's a big deal for someone who wasn't genetically engineered or powered by magic.
I can see their parachutes.
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by rereboy » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:33 pm
GizmoKSX wrote:...or powered by magic.
Nameks
are powered by magic. They can create magic dragon balls (and clothes out of nothing), etc.
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by GizmoKSX » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:05 pm
rereboy wrote:GizmoKSX wrote:...or powered by magic.
Nameks
are powered by magic. They can create magic dragon balls (and clothes out of nothing), etc.
Oh, right, how could I forget about the Clothes Beam? Now there's a haxxed ability.
I can see their parachutes.
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by dchan316 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:07 pm
Aside from everything else that has been mentioned, Tenshinhan's Shin Kikoho is pretty overly powerful. Piccolo, who is many times stronger than Tenshinhan, could do nothing against Cell's second form with his most powerful blast. Tenshinhan, on the other hand, held him at bay, giving the others a chance to escape. Its ability to be fired off in quick succession makes it frightful attack.
It even knocked away Majin Buu's attack, whom no other full-blooded earthling ever really had a successful attack against.
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by jjgp1112 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:09 pm
Gaffer Tape wrote:Kaboom wrote:Yeah, like Rocketman said, that was anime-only filler. In the manga, the Kienzan has cut through EVERYTHING it's ever made contact with. Nappa, solid rock, Freeza, and even Majin Boo.
Wait. When does Kuririn ever use the Kienzan against Buu in the manga?
Goku used it on Buu.
Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
Bulma: Of course! I'm not gonna pull a Frieza and screw it up!
Master Roshi: Bulma, I think Frieza failed because he wore too many clothes!
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Piccolo Daimao
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by Piccolo Daimao » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:24 pm
GT Kid Goku's bullshit Toei power-up.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
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by Blue » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:58 pm
Arale, gag manga characters can never die.

Herms wrote: The DB wikai lists “Rolie Buu” as one of this form’s alternate name, though I have no clue who calls him that.
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by Godo » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:51 pm
Piccolo Daimao wrote:GT Kid Goku's bullshit Toei power-up.
And remember, if SSJ doesn't work, then try SSJ2. If that doesn't work, try SSJ3. No success? Try SSJ4.
Still not working, even though you put all your effort and energy into that last Kamehameha?
Well then, there is a simple solution: Go back into your base form and kick some ass!
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by Shiyonasan » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:32 pm
Godo wrote:Piccolo Daimao wrote:GT Kid Goku's bullshit Toei power-up.
And remember, if SSJ doesn't work, then try SSJ2. If that doesn't work, try SSJ3. No success? Try SSJ4.
Still not working, even though you put all your effort and energy into that last Kamehameha?
Well then, there is a simple solution: Go back into your base form and kick some ass!
Ah yes, GT "logic"...
Speaking of which, Super 17's ability to absorb ki attacks is a pretty "haxxed" ability.
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Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece
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by Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:42 pm
Taking this in the exact opposite direction, the weakest attack that almost never works is the basic energy-dan. Every character uses it at least once (and Vegeta does it in pretty much every battle) and it never works, not even once that I can think of.
It does work in the movies, though. Tullece just totally wipes the floor with Goku by using it, but the form he used was a more accurate near-homing one handed version.
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by Savage68 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:14 am
Shiyonasan wrote:Godo wrote:Piccolo Daimao wrote:GT Kid Goku's bullshit Toei power-up.
And remember, if SSJ doesn't work, then try SSJ2. If that doesn't work, try SSJ3. No success? Try SSJ4.
Still not working, even though you put all your effort and energy into that last Kamehameha?
Well then, there is a simple solution: Go back into your base form and kick some ass!
Ah yes, GT "logic"...
Speaking of which, Super 17's ability to absorb ki attacks is a pretty "haxxed" ability.
Especially when he's fighting complete and utter morons, like Vegeta and especially Goku, who give him want he wants over and over again.
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by Rocketman » Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:26 pm
Godo wrote:Piccolo Daimao wrote:GT Kid Goku's bullshit Toei power-up.
And remember, if SSJ doesn't work, then try SSJ2.
Toei: SS...2? What is this?
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by SHINOBI-03 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:36 pm
Here's something I've said about GT Goku's strength...
- Everyone is WEAK LIKE HELL!!
C'mon... Trunks need to go Super Saiyan to left a bunch of bricks off his head?! And Vegeta was pethatic when he was fighting Super 17 when he was supposed to be Goku's equal!
And the Super 17 fight against everyone? That's where I concluded that everyone is weak and Goku is the top thanks to Toei's producers and stupid fans who don't like anyone else but Goku to be the hero of the day.