What's with the name censorship?

[Kaboom]

Again, you know how to circumvent the filter if you really, really want.

[jjgp1112]

Again, you know how to circumvent the filter if you really, really want.

Nice dismissal of my whole freaking argument.

My main way of circumventing CONVENIENTLY stopped working a few weeks ago about five minutes after I mentioned it in the chat.

And y'know, the filter probably wouldn't be as annoying if everyone defending it didn't act like such a condescending dick about it.

[Blue]

I really...don't see why you four or five guys can't deal. It's just a name filter. It's not like "Boy the dub sure is awesome!" is filtered to "Boy screw the dub!"

[Amigo Ten]

No opinions are being filtered. It's a bunch if incorrect spellings being corrected and a few names being changed to names that you should be familiar with anyway. I honestly don't see what there is to complain about. You can write T-ien and F-rieza and P-ikkon all you want, what difference does it make that it comes out as Tenshinhan, Freeza and Paikuhan?

[Kaboom]

Nice dismissal of my whole freaking argument.

Oh, no no! Make no mistake, I understand your argument completely:

"waaaaaah we don't like it."

My main way of circumventing CONVENIENTLY stopped working a few weeks ago about five minutes after I mentioned it in the chat.

Of course, and don't think we aren't grateful.

Listen to the guys above me. It's not a big deal. Stop making it one.

[jjgp1112]

No opinions are being filtered. It's a bunch if incorrect spellings being corrected and a few names being changed to names that you should be familiar with anyway. I honestly don't see what there is to complain about. You can write T-ien and F-rieza and P-ikkon all you want, what difference does it make that it comes out as Tenshinhan, Freeza and Paikuhan?

On the other hand, why does it matter to YOU what I say?

Why is it that sub fans seem to care so much about dub fans' preferences?

I hate to quote such a horrible song, but "You just do you, and I'mma do me."

My main way of circumventing CONVENIENTLY stopped working a few weeks ago about five minutes after I mentioned it in the chat.

Of course, and don't think we aren't grateful.

Listen to the guys above me. It's not a big deal. Stop making it one.

Way to pretty much make the whole filter look like a malicious attempt to harm dub fans. I'm sure Mike NEVER intended it as such but YOU sure give someone a good enough reason to think that. And it pretty much killed an entire argument that your peers tried to use as a way to placate this for us.

Again, this probably wouldn't be such a big deal about it if the people on the other side didn't have to be so arrogant about it. That type of attitude just makes me more angry and more vocal.

[Blue]

On the other hand, why does it matter to YOU what I say?

Why is it that sub fans seem to care so much about dub fans' preferences?

Not many of us do care what you say. You can navigate the joke filter all you wish.

[Bussani]

What part of, "Mike's forum, Mike's rules" isn't getting through people's skulls?

He's already said that if you give him some good reason to change the filters, and there's a majority demand for it, he'd do something about it. But you haven't. Most of the "outcry" has been from a small handful of avid, defensive dubbies with little more argument than, "waaaaaah we don't like it."

If that's the best you can do, then you're better off just stepping off and dealing with it.

Deja vu!

How did the thread not explode after Xyex pretty much destroyed all pro-filter logic?

"I agree with what he said, so EVERYONE'S LOGIC IS FALSE BUT MINE."

Nice dismissal of my whole freaking argument.

Your whole freaking argument is still the same, "I don't like it. Why won't the owner pander to me? I don't want to go elsewhere. If Mike wants people to post here he should be more accommodating."

See Kaboom's above response. If anyone's missing the point, it's you.

On the other hand, why does it matter to YOU what I say?

Why is it that sub fans seem to care so much about dub fans' preferences?

Good god, you're illogical. You just pushed all the explanations out of your head and asked for them to be explained all over again, didn't you? No wonder this thread keeps going in bloody circles.

[JulieYBM]

Fans of the original don't care about your opinions, we just don't want to have to replace wrong terms in our minds with the correct ones. You, on the other hand, would have to place correct terms with wrong ones so...

[Kaboom]

Way to pretty much make the whole filter look like a malicious attempt to harm dub fans. I'm sure Mike NEVER intended it as such but YOU sure give someone a good enough reason to think that.

Nobody's trying to "harm" you. The point of the filter is, in this case, to discourage the use of incorrect terminology from a bad, niche dub, primarily to avoid confusion for readers who are unfamiliar with said dub.

You in particular keep trying to throw yourself in front of it as some sort of human shield, and make yourself out to be a poor, mistreated martyr.

Again, this probably wouldn't be such a big deal about it if the people on the other side didn't have to be so arrogant about it. That type of attitude just makes me more angry and more vocal.

No, you just don't like it when you don't get your way.

"Please change the filter."
"No."
"Change the filter."
"No."
"Change the filter!"
"... No."
"Change the filter!!!"
"No. Stop being annoying."

[Bussani]

I'm going to ask again: why does anyone even care about the filters? You're not being asked to do anything. You can spell the name however you want when you type it and then it magically gets changed. Why does it matter? You're not posting to read your own post: you're posting for everyone else to read it.

[jjgp1112]

Don't you think I KNOW that? I'm saying that YOU made it look that way with that dick-ish response.

I'm going to ask again: why does anyone even care about the filters? You're not being asked to do anything. You can spell the name however you want when you type it and then it magically gets changed. Why does it matter? You're not posting to read your own post: you're posting for everyone else to read it.

It's just like with a TV show. I would rather have my posts come out the way I actually wanted it to come out because it's something I made.

No, you just don't like it when you don't get your way.

"Please change the filter."
"No."
"Change the filter."
"No."
"Change the filter!"
"... No."
"Change the filter!!!"
"No. Stop being annoying."

You sure do like to convince yourself that every single assumption you make is absolute fact, don't you? There are ways to accomplish stuff without acting like a jerk about it to the people on the opposition.

primarily to avoid confusion for readers who are unfamiliar with said dub.

And again, wouldn't that be accomplished just as easily by making a sticky thread?

[Bussani]

It's just like with a TV show. I would rather have my posts come out the way I actually wanted it to come out because it's something I made.

And just like with a TV show, the network gets final say.

And again, wouldn't that be accomplished just as easily by making a sticky thread?

No one who should read it would read it. Most users don't even stop to read the rules.

[Amigo Ten]

No opinions are being filtered. It's a bunch if incorrect spellings being corrected and a few names being changed to names that you should be familiar with anyway. I honestly don't see what there is to complain about. You can write T-ien and F-rieza and P-ikkon all you want, what difference does it make that it comes out as Tenshinhan, Freeza and Paikuhan?

On the other hand, why does it matter to YOU what I say?

Why is it that sub fans seem to care so much about dub fans' preferences?

Well, it doesn't matter to me in particular. I happen to know that T-ien is Tenshinhan and so on. In fact I still use T-ien more than Tenshinhan despite way more familiar with the VIZ manga than any dub of the anime, but it doesn't bother me that it's changed. I can't see why anyone is bothered by it.

[Blue]

You guys should make your own forum with blackjack and hookers!

[jjgp1112]

It's just like with a TV show. I would rather have my posts come out the way I actually wanted it to come out because it's something I made.

And just like with a TV show, the network gets final say.

And again, wouldn't that be accomplished just as easily by making a sticky thread?

No one who should read it would read it. Most users don't even stop to read the rules.

In that case, it makes the whole, "it says the Japanese version is emphasized in the rules" point moot because of the fact that you won't accept that same argument working in a way that helps the opposition.

"I'm confused about that term."
"Oh, well it shows the correct version in this sticky"

Is no different from,

"Why is there a word filter"
"Because the rules say the Japanese version is emphasized."

[JulieYBM]

A sticky thread is easily lost and forgotten amongst the mass of threads and not everyone reads every single thread on the forum. A filter hurts absolutely nobody and will bring these wrong terms to the surface for the uninitiated far quicker.

[jjgp1112]

A sticky thread is easily lost and forgotten amongst the mass of threads and not everyone reads every single thread on the forum. A filter hurts absolutely nobody and will bring these wrong terms to the surface for the uninitiated far quicker.

That just brings me back to my, "Why does it matter?" argument but whatever, this is going in circles.

[Xyex]

A sticky thread is easily lost and forgotten amongst the mass of threads and not everyone reads every single thread on the forum. A filter hurts absolutely nobody and will bring these wrong terms to the surface for the uninitiated far quicker.

1) How does a sticky get lost?
2) For the billionth time, they're not "wrong".
3) I highly doubt there's anyone 'uninitiated' left.
4) Even if there are I doubt they much care what the Japanese names are.

Also, on another point against the filter. Tien Shinhan comes out even more stupid looking than it does without it.

[Amigo Ten]

How is T-ien not wrong?