Some neat tidbits

[Kirbopher]

The original music is being kept, as far as I know in both versions. They love the music in Kai.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

The original music is being kept, as far as I know in both versions. They love the music in Kai.

So do I.


I think I might even like it better than Faulconer's and Kikuchi's score.

[Kendamu]

The original music is being kept, as far as I know in both versions. They love the music in Kai.

I hope that includes openings and closings on TV.

[jjgp1112]

Is the broadcast version gonna have a completely different script or something?

Eh, it doesn't matter to me, I'll still watch it on TV, but I'm just curious.

[Kendamu]

Is the broadcast version gonna have a completely different script or something?

Eh, it doesn't matter to me, I'll still watch it on TV, but I'm just curious.

I doubt it'll be completely different, but Nicktoons may be enforcing some censorship that'll get our hardcore fan panties in a bunch.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Is the broadcast version gonna have a completely different script or something?

Eh, it doesn't matter to me, I'll still watch it on TV, but I'm just curious.

I doubt it'll be completely different, but Nicktoons may be enforcing some censorship that'll get our hardcore fan panties in a bunch.

That my friend, is inevitable.

[Kendamu]

Is the broadcast version gonna have a completely different script or something?

Eh, it doesn't matter to me, I'll still watch it on TV, but I'm just curious.

I doubt it'll be completely different, but Nicktoons may be enforcing some censorship that'll get our hardcore fan panties in a bunch.

That my friend, is inevitable.

Oh, yeah. I pretty well figured that much. I'll still check it out, anyway, since I do have the channel.

[jjgp1112]

It likely won't be any worse than Cartoon Network's censorship. If some of Rocko's Modern Life's and Ren & Stimpy's dirtier jokes can remain uncensored on there, I don't see why Kai would be that heavily censored. As long as there isn't any bad photoshopping. Although I can see and understand any Japanese text that appears in the show being changed to English text instead, like on a banner or something.

[Kendamu]

It likely won't be any worse than Cartoon Network's censorship. If some of Rocko's Modern Life's and Ren & Stimpy's dirtier jokes can remain uncensored on there, I don't see why Kai would be that heavily censored. As long as there isn't any bad photoshopping. Although I can see and understand any Japanese text that appears in the show being changed to English text instead, like on a banner or something.

I think the warning about censorship mainly applies to people who cry and throw things when they hear Sean Schemmel or Chris Sabat utter a single noise... not so much the people who were just gonna get it on DVD and watch it without even thinking of the dub.

[bkev]

It likely won't be any worse than Cartoon Network's censorship. If some of Rocko's Modern Life's and Ren & Stimpy's dirtier jokes can remain uncensored on there, I don't see why Kai would be that heavily censored.

Only, don't they not air those shows anymore?

[Kendamu]

It likely won't be any worse than Cartoon Network's censorship. If some of Rocko's Modern Life's and Ren & Stimpy's dirtier jokes can remain uncensored on there, I don't see why Kai would be that heavily censored.

Only, don't they not air those shows anymore?

They don't air a lot of their old shows anymore.

[DemonRin]

About the apparent things that'll get us "Hardcore Fans" upset, maybe they're doing what they did with One Piece's TV broadcast.

Zoro was "Zolo" on TV for consistency, but he went back to "Zoro" for the DVDs.

Maybe we'll see "Tien" and "King Kai" and "Frieza" on the TV Broadcast, but "Tenshinhan", "Kaio" and "Freeza" on the DVD and BD?

[Big Momma]

The original music is being kept, as far as I know in both versions. They love the music in Kai.

I hope that includes openings and closings on TV.

I hope that includes (I PRAY FOR ENGLISH VERSIONS OF) the insert songs.

[B]

About the apparent things that'll get us "Hardcore Fans" upset, maybe they're doing what they did with One Piece's TV broadcast.

Zoro was "Zolo" on TV for consistency, but he went back to "Zoro" for the DVDs.

Maybe we'll see "Tien" and "King Kai" and "Frieza" on the TV Broadcast, but "Tenshinhan", "Kaio" and "Freeza" on the DVD and BD?

I wouldn't hold my breath, but that would be the greatest thing ever, since it's more or less false advertising.

I support the crap out of it.

[verto]

About the apparent things that'll get us "Hardcore Fans" upset, maybe they're doing what they did with One Piece's TV broadcast.

Zoro was "Zolo" on TV for consistency, but he went back to "Zoro" for the DVDs.

Maybe we'll see "Tien" and "King Kai" and "Frieza" on the TV Broadcast, but "Tenshinhan", "Kaio" and "Freeza" on the DVD and BD?

I understand (but don't agree with) you guys wanting "Tenshinhan" and even "Freeza", but "Kaio"? Isn't King Kai a suitable translation? "O" is the honourific for kings and queens so I don't understand the problem...

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

About the apparent things that'll get us "Hardcore Fans" upset, maybe they're doing what they did with One Piece's TV broadcast.

Zoro was "Zolo" on TV for consistency, but he went back to "Zoro" for the DVDs.

Maybe we'll see "Tien" and "King Kai" and "Frieza" on the TV Broadcast, but "Tenshinhan", "Kaio" and "Freeza" on the DVD and BD?

I understand (but don't agree with) you guys wanting "Tenshinhan" and even "Freeza", but "Kaio"? Isn't King Kai a suitable translation? "O" is the honourific for kings and queens so I don't understand the problem...

King Kai is a half translation, they translated the "o" but left the "Kai" untranslated.

I personally don't have a problem with it.

[linkdude20002001]

I do. Kaio is the creator of Kaio-Ken, so it doesn't make sense to change only one use of his name, but not the other. Plus, "King Kai" makes it sound like Kai is his name. Same thing with "Master Roshi" and "Fortuneteller Baba". FUNimation basically renamed these characters with names that were originally only part of their title.

[DemonRin]

My Major problem with "King Kai" vs. "Kaio" comes from a problem with consistency.

Kaio is "King of Worlds". So Ok, they translated the "O" but left Kai, ok, kinda makes sense, they consider "Kai" a name.

But why is the "Kaioken" still the "Kaioken"? Why not "King Kai Ken" or "King Kai Fist"?
I believe mostly in consistency. If you're gonna translate his name in one instance and then not in the other, it comes off to me as shoddy. The One Piece dub did something similarly inconsistent recently that upset me. Now, I know it's sometimes common practice to flip Japanese name-order to Western name order. Uzumaki Naruto becomes Naruto Uzumaki, Urameshi Yusuke becomes Yusuke Urameshi. I get it, it makes sense. But whichever name order you choose, stick to it.

FUNimation left Most of the names in One Piece un-flipped. Monkey D. Luffy, Roronoa Zoro, Tony Tony Chopper, Nico Robin, Montblanc Norland and Cricket. It became pretty obvious they were going with Japanese name order.
Then suddenly Vivi was "Vivi Nefertari"...
In the case of the One Piece dub, this kinda stuff is really few and far between but that stuff still really irks me.

So when they decide to translate "Kaio" a certain way, they should ALWAYS translate Kaio the SAME way.
So IMO, either Kaio teaches Son the "Kaioken", or King Kai teaches him the "King Kai Fist". Mixing and matching just seems shoddy to me.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

I do. Kaio is the creator of Kaio-Ken, so it doesn't make sense to change only one use of his name, but not the other. Plus, "King Kai" makes it sound like Kai is his name. Same thing with "Master Roshi" and "Fortuneteller Baba". FUNimation basically renamed these characters with names that were originally only part of their title.

I guess they though that "World King" didn't sound good or something.

[Gaffer Tape]

I agree with all of that. My only defense for FUNimation is that they apparently had their heads up their asses too far at the time to realize that Kaio-ken was based on the character's name considering their mispronounciation of it. Completely oblivious to this connection, they plodded on with his name however they fancied. Isn't it funny how even defending them points out another one of their mistakes?

Then again, I suppose it could be supposed that FUNimation, for some reason, really hated the name Kaio for a character (who knows?) but liked the attack name, so they purposely mispronounced the attack in order to diminish the connection between the two! Yeah, sounds like foil hat conspiracy theory, but I have war flashbacks to high school ten years ago trying to get my friends to understand that Kaio-ken was named after Kaio... and they just weren't buying it. After all, it's not exactly like Kamehameha has any etymological connection to the dub name of "Master Roshi," unlike Kamehameha to Kamesennin.