Screwy age mistakes(?!)

kenisu3000 · Post by **kenisu3000** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:52 pm

I've been thinking about the ages in DragonBall GT... and I realize: Trunks couldn't have been older than 18 at the end of Z, right? Well, when GT begins he doesn't appear to have aged at all... whereas Pan is AT LEAST 7, four years older than she was at the end of Z. If that's the case, Trunks should be about 22, and he should have the older appearance that Toriyama gave his future counterpart (when fighting Cell in the future). I could be totally wrong though. Can anyone tell me how many years passed between the last ep of Z and the first ep of GT?

Trunks Master Swordsman03 · Post by **Trunks Master Swordsman03** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:07 pm

I believe it was 10 years. Pan was not 7, she was more like a small 14 year old. Because just think, look at the way Bulla Dresses, she must be a Teen, so therefore Pan would be a Teen aswell, which means 9-10 years passed.

SpaceKappa · Post by **SpaceKappa** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:44 pm

Who is Bulla?

B-kun · Post by **B-kun** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:54 pm

The official year difference is 5, going by the Daizenshuu. The 10 year thing is pure fan speculation.

tarsonis · Post by **tarsonis** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:11 pm

Bulla is Bra, I would assume.

How could it be anything other than 10 years though? Given the way she, Pan, and Marron age, it has to be about that amount of time.

Also, look at how much older Kuririn appears.

B-kun · Post by **B-kun** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:38 pm

I didn't create the Daizenshuu, but they say GT is 5 years later, and that's an official source.

Actually, new question - where did people get the 10 year thing anyway? Did some fan 7 years ago claim it and it kinda spread?

*PINHEAD* · Post by ***PINHEAD*** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:18 pm

I guess the 10 year speculation came from the fans guessing a logical time for GT to have taken place. With all those characters looking the way they do...but Trunks is an exeption. He's in the Briefs family...but, whereas he and his mother still looked young for quite a while, his sister seemed to age pretty fast...

Bulla is FUNi's name for Bra. As for Trunks, he was about 18 or 19 by the end of DBZ. His future couterpart was about 21 when he defeated Cell, making him maybe 16 or 17 when he came back the first time.

Trunks Master Swordsman03 · Post by **Trunks Master Swordsman03** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:23 pm

His future couterpart was about 21

Acctually he was 23,

He was 17 when he arrived for the first time
1 year passes & he returns, he is 18
He does in the Hyper-Bolic Time Chamber, he is 19
Time Chamber again, he is 20
than he is 20 when he returns to his time & 3 years pass, he is 23.

*PINHEAD* · Post by ***PINHEAD*** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:32 pm

Ah, yes, I forgot to include the time spent Room of the Spirit and Time. Well, he technically is about 21 years, as in years spent in the actual world since he was born.

On a side note, Trunks really screwed up time. There's not only the many timelines caused by the two trips to the past we see, but also the ones with Cell and Trunks, and Cell and Trunks twice, and then Trunks's return to tell everybody about how he defeated the Androids. Ugh.

But that's been described in another thread a while back.

Trunks Master Swordsman03 · Post by **Trunks Master Swordsman03** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:56 pm

Timelines were very screwed up, but it's better than no timelines at all

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:14 am

I always assumed Pan was 12. Is Bra supposed to be older than Pan? She certianly looks it.

To add on, There were 3 years inbetween Trunks' first and second appearance.

kenisu3000 · Post by **kenisu3000** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:51 pm

Sun_Wukong wrote:I always assumed Pan was 12. Is Bra supposed to be older than Pan? She certianly looks it.

To add on, There were 3 years inbetween Trunks' first and second appearance.

Yes, Bra is at least a few years older than Pan.

And it gets confusing, but even though 3 years passed in the Z-Warriors' timeline, only one year had passed in Trunks' timeline - therefore Trunks would only be one year older.
I'd have to go with the 23 theory (for when Trunks fights Cell in the future), because amazingly enough, the years spent in the time chamber do count. I quote, from tankoubon 35:
(Bulma:) "Chotto--- doushita no yo se ga zuibun nobita n ja nai!?"
(Trunks:) "Hai kako de seishin to toki no heya tte iu tokoro ga Kami-sama no kyuuden ni atte
"...Soko de wa 1 nenkan ga tatta 1 nichi de sugichatte..."

Roughly translated:
(Bulma:) "Wait a sec--- what happened with you? You've grown quite a bit, haven't you!?"
(Trunks:) "Yes, in the past, at Kami-sama's palace, there is a place called the Room of Spirit and Time.
"...Within, one year passes in only one day..."

So there you have it.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:22 pm

kenisu3000 wrote:
Sun_Wukong wrote:I always assumed Pan was 12. Is Bra supposed to be older than Pan? She certianly looks it.

To add on, There were 3 years inbetween Trunks' first and second appearance.
Yes, Bra is at least a few years older than Pan.

And it gets confusing, but even though 3 years passed in the Z-Warriors' timeline, only one year had passed in Trunks' timeline - therefore Trunks would only be one year older.
I'd have to go with the 23 theory (for when Trunks fights Cell in the future), because amazingly enough, the years spent in the time chamber do count. I quote, from tankoubon 35:
(Bulma:) "Chotto--- doushita no yo se ga zuibun nobita n ja nai!?"
(Trunks:) "Hai kako de seishin to toki no heya tte iu tokoro ga Kami-sama no kyuuden ni atte
"...Soko de wa 1 nenkan ga tatta 1 nichi de sugichatte..."

Roughly translated:
(Bulma:) "Wait a sec--- what happened with you? You've grown quite a bit, haven't you!?"
(Trunks:) "Yes, in the past, at Kami-sama's palace, there is a place called the Room of Spirit and Time.
"...Within, one year passes in only one day..."

So there you have it.

Only a year passed in the future? That doesn't make any sense...

Anyway, Bra's actually a year younger than Pan. Go figure. But this is the same series where 9/10 year old Gohan looks older than 15 year old Goku. So ya.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:13 pm

Xyex wrote:Only a year passed in the future? That doesn't make any sense...

Trunks went to the future, stayed for a year, then time-traveled back to three years after the time he first time-traveled back.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:34 pm

Stupid GT. Bra looks like she's about 14.

B-kun · Post by **B-kun** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:21 pm

Did it EVER cross ANY of your minds to blame Toei and/or the art team instead of GT...? That's like "Stupid Z. Goku's hair isn't that big."

Sebastian (SB) · Post by **Sebastian (SB)** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:29 pm

B-kun wrote:Did it EVER cross ANY of your minds to blame Toei and/or the art team instead of GT...? That's like "Stupid Z. Goku's hair isn't that big."

Yeah, I agree with B. I mean they were quite numerous misconceptions in DBZ as well, due to certain animations & fillers.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:11 pm

B-kun wrote:Did it EVER cross ANY of your minds to blame Toei and/or the art team instead of GT...? That's like "Stupid Z. Goku's hair isn't that big."

Why would you get upset about something like that? Of course I know Toei screwed it up. And actually, what your saying is quite different. No one would really care if Goku's hair was too big. Age is a whole nother issue.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:32 pm

He got upset because of the constant GT bashing that goes on here.

Mike D · Post by **Mike D** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:07 pm

If it aint GT then it's the Dub...

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