Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

[sangofe]

I missed the DBZ Kai clips from Anime Boston before FUNi took them down... Did anyone happen to record these, and would this person, or someone else, please upload them somewhere else?

[Vino]

Poor Bardock. Some people might not like that his scar is gone now, but they also took away most of his cheekbone! Also those lines over his eyebrows that I don't know the name of.

Wow this looks better than any Kai redrawn shit I've seen.

Also lol on censorshop.

[Xyex]

It may be a time slot issue. If Kai were airing at night, perhaps they wouldn't edit it as much. Otherwise, I will have to simply chalk this up as anime being edited simply because it's anime, as is often the case.

I think it's partly a case of familiarity and partly a case of local creators. With shows from familiar settings (Spider-man, for instance) things will get through because 'it just wouldn't be the same' on occasion. And with the creator's being in the states they often have some degree of input to how their product is handled. With anime, the dub companies just have to take what they can get and be happy, or go broke.

[fig404]

There are two ways this broadcast version will still be worth watching:

The censorship can be minor enough to ignore or not notice.
Or
The edits can be so bad, that they become unintentionally hilarious.

[Treklin]

Anyone see this yet?

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-1.html

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-2.html

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-3.html

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-4.html

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-5.html < first nicktoons edit i've noticed, roshi is drinking water. also, tienshinhan.

That seems to be all of them that I can find, changing it to six brings up nothing.

can anyone upload the clips on youtube or make for us non-americans a megashare/rapidshare download ???

[TheBlackPaladin]

Let's not forget time slots, too. Generally with TV the rule is that the later a show is on, the less you have to edit. With all of these edits, just how early IS Kai going to be on?

[Amigo Ten]

Well, it's 9am on a Sunday in Japan I think. Looking at the edits I wouldn't be surprised if it had a similar slot in the US.

[Innagadadavida]

Well, it's 9am on a Sunday in Japan I think. Looking at the edits I wouldn't be surprised if it had a similar slot in the US.

That would make a lot of sense, IMO. While the ideal slot would be 4pm after school, a weekend morning slot would be nothing new for DBZ. I have foggy memories of Piccolo in the desert on Sunday morning. I think that was 1996? Or am I making this up?

[NeoKING]

Well, it's 9am on a Sunday in Japan I think. Looking at the edits I wouldn't be surprised if it had a similar slot in the US.

That would make a lot of sense, IMO. While the ideal slot would be 4pm after school, a weekend morning slot would be nothing new for DBZ. I have foggy memories of Piccolo in the desert on Sunday morning. I think that was 1996? Or am I making this up?

Nope, because I remember the Ginyu Force battles airing on KidsWB 6 AM every weekday morning.

[jjgp1112]

Well, it's 9am on a Sunday in Japan I think. Looking at the edits I wouldn't be surprised if it had a similar slot in the US.

That would make a lot of sense, IMO. While the ideal slot would be 4pm after school, a weekend morning slot would be nothing new for DBZ. I have foggy memories of Piccolo in the desert on Sunday morning. I think that was 1996? Or am I making this up?

Nope, because I remember the Ginyu Force battles airing on KidsWB 6 AM every weekday morning.

It aired on different channels depending on the location. For some people it was Fox on Sunday, for some people (like you and me) it was KidsWB on weekdays, etc.

[Lance Freeman]

So, let's get some opinions. Do you think this will have MORE or LESS censorship than the Saban days? How about more or less censorship than the... *shudder* average 4Kids hack-job.

[Cold Skin]

For the censored version:
That's interesting in a twisted kind of way! I wonder how they'll censor some harder stuff than blood, or what dialog they'll transform. When the time comes, someone should definately create a comparison thread and devote (sacrifice?) himself to watch all censored Kai on TV, then post pictures comparing the original footage and the censored visuals as well as the perfect-dub lines and their kiddy-dub variation.

For the new home dub:
That's really nice, the new voices are great, and the most striking things is that all lines and performances sound NATURAL, and that's just a huge pleasure.
What I hope they're doing in the process (though I doubt it), and I hope it's the case for the Japanese dub too, is that they keep in store all separate lines from all dialogues for use in the future:
- The Japanese dubbers won't last forever now, and most voices are difficult to replace. Better think of plan to have those voices "forever", so Kai's a good occasion to store the dialogues for any further video game or reanimated remake.
- The Americans really work harder than ever on realistic performances. No doubt they can make the ultimate effort once, but it's likely they won't always "give it their all" every time there's a new video game. Better keep the ultimate performances/translations once and for all and use them.

[Puto]

All separate lines of the original dub *were* stored, otherwise it would have been impossible to do the "dub with Japanese music" track in the Season Sets and Dragon Box.

And I believe this will be less cut than the Saban days, because the Saban days had cuts not only for censorship, but also for time, merging episodes together, etc. I don't believe we will get those, given that the music was left intact (which is next to impossible to do decently when you're hacking up the footage for time).

[Big Momma]

That would make a lot of sense, IMO. While the ideal slot would be 4pm after school, a weekend morning slot would be nothing new for DBZ. I have foggy memories of Piccolo in the desert on Sunday morning. I think that was 1996? Or am I making this up?

Nope, because I remember the Ginyu Force battles airing on KidsWB 6 AM every weekday morning.

It aired on different channels depending on the location. For some people it was Fox on Sunday, for some people (like you and me) it was KidsWB on weekdays, etc.

Yep. The very first time I saw DBZ was at about 6AM on a Saturday morning on FOX. (It was the first time I had ever pulled an all nighter! )

[Metalwario64]

All separate lines of the original dub *were* stored, otherwise it would have been impossible to do the "dub with Japanese music" track in the Season Sets and Dragon Box.

And I believe this will be less cut than the Saban days, because the Saban days had cuts not only for censorship, but also for time, merging episodes together, etc. I don't believe we will get those, given that the music was left intact (which is next to impossible to do decently when you're hacking up the footage for time).

Well Bulma's whole rant was drastically shortened (the entire thing was changed to just "He went out with another girl!). I'm sure that was a time cut.

[ohaimynameiserik]

All separate lines of the original dub *were* stored, otherwise it would have been impossible to do the "dub with Japanese music" track in the Season Sets and Dragon Box.

And I believe this will be less cut than the Saban days, because the Saban days had cuts not only for censorship, but also for time, merging episodes together, etc. I don't believe we will get those, given that the music was left intact (which is next to impossible to do decently when you're hacking up the footage for time).

Well Bulma's whole rant was drastically shortened (the entire thing was changed to just "He went out with another girl!). I'm sure that was a time cut.

Yeah, Roshi's line about not having to wait for an invitation was moved to different frames as well. It was all there to cut out him reaching for Bulma's chest while downing his beer. Rawfull.

[Vino]

Well this looked like a great thing but the censorship killed it.

[Bura]

Anyone see this yet?

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-1.html

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-2.html

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-3.html

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-4.html

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-5.html < first nicktoons edit i've noticed, roshi is drinking water. also, tienshinhan.

That seems to be all of them that I can find, changing it to six brings up nothing.

can anyone upload the clips on youtube or make for us non-americans a megashare/rapidshare download ???

Seconded. I want to join the discussion!

[Goku100xKamehameha]

Can someone upload the clips on Youtube please! UK always blocked from DBZ.

The First Clip

[Goku100xKamehameha]

Anyone see this yet?

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-1.html

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-2.html

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-3.html

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-4.html

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-5.html < first nicktoons edit i've noticed, roshi is drinking water. also, tienshinhan.

That seems to be all of them that I can find, changing it to six brings up nothing.

can anyone upload the clips on youtube or make for us non-americans a megashare/rapidshare download ???

The First Clip