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Re: Did anyone else HATE the first set of eyecatchers for DBZ?

Post by Silver Sinspawn » Sun May 02, 2010 2:45 am

I've never actually seen them. I watch DB/Z online or on TV, but they never seem to have the eyecatchers. Can someone give me like, a video link to it?
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Re: Did anyone else HATE the first set of eyecatchers for DBZ?

Post by B » Sun May 02, 2010 2:53 am

Silver Sinspawn wrote:I've never actually seen them. I watch DB/Z online or on TV, but they never seem to have the eyecatchers. Can someone give me like, a video link to it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OT8qP7LQ-M - Eyecatch 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI46jiNVv_o - Eyecatch 2
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Re: Did anyone else HATE the first set of eyecatchers for DBZ?

Post by Silver Sinspawn » Sun May 02, 2010 3:12 am

I've seen it once and I'm already annoyed!
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Re: Did anyone else HATE the first set of eyecatchers for DBZ?

Post by Blue » Sun May 02, 2010 3:13 am

I actually kind of like the dub music for the eye catchers more then the original. (I am awful.)
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Re: Did anyone else HATE the first set of eyecatchers for DBZ?

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sun May 02, 2010 3:20 am

Blue wrote:I actually kind of like the dub music for the eye catchers more then the original. (I am awful.)
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Re: Did anyone else HATE the first set of eyecatchers for DBZ?

Post by Silver Sinspawn » Sun May 02, 2010 5:17 am

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Blue wrote:I actually kind of like the dub music for the eye catchers more then the original. (I am awful.)
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Re: Did anyone else HATE the first set of eyecatchers for DBZ?

Post by LilKokuLink » Sun May 02, 2010 1:27 pm

The eyecatcher moment that I hated the most was when Vegeta was just about to go all out against Cell after he kills Trunks, it even goes to the point where he's mid-way through the air about to attack him. All of a sudden...

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I still like the eyecatchers though, GT have the best ones alongside with the first DragonBall one but for some reason I don't like the Z one's as much.

Which reminds me, the eyecatcher music played in the DragonBall GT season sets by FUNimation seems really weird to me for some strange reason. It's like a small section of the music is repeated twice in order to match with the footage. Was it originally like this or were their problems by FUNimation? (I'm talking about the default 5.1 surround track, I cannot test the Original Japanese Mono right now as I have no access to it).
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Re: Did anyone else HATE the first set of eyecatchers for DBZ?

Post by Budogenkai » Sun May 02, 2010 1:44 pm

The eyecatchers are alright, I never really payed attention to them to be honest.

Except the Dragon Box ones, which look purty.
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Re: Did anyone else HATE the first set of eyecatchers for DBZ?

Post by Gozar » Sun May 02, 2010 2:22 pm

Yeah, they killed many-a scenes intensity. The Kai Eye Catchers are much better. They don't ruin intensity. Also, I know it's already been mentioned. But as a Trunks fan I must re-state. Trunks' SSJ transformation in the Special was completely disgraced by that ridiculous music. It's not that it does it all the time, but there are just scenes like that that stick out in your mind.

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Re: Did anyone else HATE the first set of eyecatchers for DBZ?

Post by SilverPlaqueVII » Sun May 02, 2010 4:26 pm

Another eyecatchers for Eyecatach 1 of DBZ were multicolored those days. Think about it, Satan's children from the Saban-days were crazy back then.
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Re: Did anyone else HATE the first set of eyecatchers for DBZ?

Post by jjgp1112 » Sun May 02, 2010 4:32 pm

SilverPlaqueVII wrote:Another eyecatchers for Eyecatach 1 of DBZ were multicolored those days. Think about it, Satan's children from the Saban-days were crazy back then.
Um...I don't even...uh, Hujio, mind giving this a shot?
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Re: Did anyone else HATE the first set of eyecatchers for DBZ?

Post by UristtheGreat » Sun May 02, 2010 4:35 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
SilverPlaqueVII wrote:Another eyecatchers for Eyecatach 1 of DBZ were multicolored those days. Think about it, Satan's children from the Saban-days were crazy back Ithen.
Um...I don't even...uh, Hujio, mind giving this a shot?
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Re: Did anyone else HATE the first set of eyecatchers for DBZ?

Post by VegettoEX » Sun May 02, 2010 4:44 pm

Before anyone else comes in and says it, let me be the first to remind everyone that they are "eyecatches"... there's no letter "R" in there. They are not "catchers". It's a genuine, official name for them, so it's not particularly up for interpretation :).

Just tossin' that out there...
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Re: Eyecatches and the distraction/interruption factor

Post by Li'l Lemmy » Sun May 02, 2010 4:50 pm

Beware. You could be perceived as a dictator in saying so, and then you'll need to adjust the word filter to subjugate the massive "eyecatchers" rebellion that results from your genuine attempt to educate the fandom. Oh noes!!


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Re: Eyecatches and the distraction/interruption factor

Post by Brakus » Sun May 02, 2010 5:33 pm

I think eyecatches are supposed to be a visual/aural cue that the show is about to take (or return from) a commercial break. They're supposed to break the mood and give the viewer a breather before resuming with Act 2.

The people here that complain that "eyecatches ruin the moment" are completely missing the point of the eyecatch. Yeah, Team Four Star made fun of it during the 3-part Season 1 finale, but I'd much rather have some sort of eyecatch interrupting than just a flash cut to black and then a commercial immediately starts up. At least on the DVDs you can just sit tight and know that the "we now return to" eyecatch will immediately follow the "we'll be right back" eyecatch (in most anime series anyway).
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Re: Eyecatches and the distraction/interruption factor

Post by Blue » Sun May 02, 2010 7:25 pm

Brakus wrote: At least on the DVDs you can just sit tight and know that the "we now return to" eyecatch will immediately follow the "we'll be right back" eyecatch (in most anime series anyway).
As opposed to what? How's that any different then a fade out/fade in?
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Re: Eyecatches and the distraction/interruption factor

Post by Rocketman » Sun May 02, 2010 8:50 pm

Brakus wrote:I think eyecatches are supposed to be a visual/aural cue that the show is about to take (or return from) a commercial break. They're supposed to break the mood and give the viewer a breather before resuming with Act 2.
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Re: Eyecatches and the distraction/interruption factor

Post by Taku128 » Sun May 02, 2010 9:16 pm

I honestly think eyecatches should be removed from home releases and just provided as a bonus feature along with textless openings and ending animations. The eyecatches are designed to bookend commercial breaks, which are going to break the mood and flow of the show anyways. When you're watching a DVD or Blu-ray there aren't any commercial breaks, so the eyecatches serve no purpose except to momentarily take you out of the experience both literally and mentally.
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Re: Eyecatches and the distraction/interruption factor

Post by MajinVejitaXV » Sun May 02, 2010 9:50 pm

Taku128 wrote:I honestly think eyecatches should be removed from home releases and just provided as a bonus feature along with textless openings and ending animations. The eyecatches are designed to bookend commercial breaks, which are going to break the mood and flow of the show anyways. When you're watching a DVD or Blu-ray there aren't any commercial breaks, so the eyecatches serve no purpose except to momentarily take you out of the experience both literally and mentally.
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I rest my case. And don't give me that "cut out the additional time," because that's a slippery slope. I'd rather see the variations on scenes (like Bardock charging Freeza's men) and have an eyecatch break it up, as opposed to someone having to remove more material to make the removal of the eyecatch less jarring than keeping it in.
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Re: Eyecatches and the distraction/interruption factor

Post by Taku128 » Sun May 02, 2010 9:54 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Taku128 wrote:I honestly think eyecatches should be removed from home releases and just provided as a bonus feature along with textless openings and ending animations. The eyecatches are designed to bookend commercial breaks, which are going to break the mood and flow of the show anyways. When you're watching a DVD or Blu-ray there aren't any commercial breaks, so the eyecatches serve no purpose except to momentarily take you out of the experience both literally and mentally.
Kuririn summoning Shenron. Twice. In a row.

I rest my case. And don't give me that "cut out the additional time," because that's a slippery slope. I'd rather see the variations on scenes (like Bardock charging Freeza's men) and have an eyecatch break it up, as opposed to someone having to remove more material to make the removal of the eyecatch less jarring than keeping it in.
And why shouldn't they cut the second scene? The only reason they repeated it was because they thought people would forget what happened during the commercial break. There are no commercials on DVDs/Blu-rays so repeating scenes is pointless. They can just include the extra take as a bonus feature.

And even with the pointless eyecatch separating the scenes you're still watching Kuririn summon Shenlong twice.
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