Eyecatches and the distraction/interruption factor

[LeprikanGT]

I 100% agree with that.

That would be like cutting the first part of an episode because it happened at the end of the previous episode. Example being Gohan going SS2 twice.

[Li'l Lemmy]

For me, I honestly couldn't care less about the flow of the episodes. Whether Kuririn summons Shenlong twice in a row or not doesn't matter to me. What I care about is getting all the material as it was originally presented. If the eyecatches were a part of the show, then I want 'em without having to go picking through YouTube for a few seconds' worth of animation. Included, I can fast-forward through the damn things if I'm in that much of a hurry, but I can't make them suddenly appear on the disc if they weren't included and I want them.


~Da Lemmy

[MajinVejitaXV]

Included, I can fast-forward through the damn things if I'm in that much of a hurry, but I can't make them suddenly appear on the disc if they weren't included and I want them.

Annnnnd this is the point. No one suffers from additional footage being included, but those of us who wanna watch the show in as close a manner as possible to the original broadcast would miss out by removing chunks that some might deem 'insignificant.' It's an argument that's gone on since the first DVD was released, reaching its apex with the 'lawl is only hands and feet' outcry of the widescreen debate.

[LeprikanGT]

@Lemmy: I would want every single thing that was from the original.

Along with that, ALL the extra footage like the real dragonbox got with commercials and all that fun stuff.

[Li'l Lemmy]

Included, I can fast-forward through the damn things if I'm in that much of a hurry, but I can't make them suddenly appear on the disc if they weren't included and I want them.

Annnnnd this is the point. No one suffers from additional footage being included, but those of us who wanna watch the show in as close a manner as possible to the original broadcast would miss out by removing chunks that some might deem 'insignificant.' It's an argument that's gone on since the first DVD was released, reaching its apex with the 'lawl is only hands and feet' outcry of the widescreen debate.

It's the bottom line, pure and simple. For me, at least. I ain't usually the sort to shut out the other side in an argument, but in this case I don't see how anyone could succeed with the opposing viewpoint. Why should only part of the fanbase get what they want by having the eyecatches omitted when instead it's a win-win for everyone by giving individuals the choice to either embrace or ignore them by including the darned things?

It's not even so much a matter of including them, because "including" makes it sound like FUNimation should have a choice. If I want to be a prick, I can just say that the eyecatches are mandatory simply because they were there to begin with. Their inclusion is not optional if the release is to be done correctly.


~Da Lemmy

[MajinVejitaXV]

It's the bottom line, pure and simple. For me, at least. I ain't usually the sort to shut out the other side in an argument, but in this case I don't see how anyone could succeed with the opposing viewpoint.

I could understand someone asking for a playback option that skips them, along with recaps and so on, but omitting them completely just because of your preference seems selfish. Besides, if I'm paying for something, why the hell would I want less material?

[Li'l Lemmy]

Fine, fine. Let there be a Skip option. Just so long as the darned things are still accessible otherwise. ^_~


~Da Lemmy

[Dr. Casey]

I'm okay with eyecatches. The original Dragon Ball's are kind of bland, but I've always really liked the first set for Dragon Ball Z that the opening post mentions. Catchy song, nice animation. Seems a bit out of place during the Cell Saga when Gohan's twice the age of what the eyecatch depicts, but during the Saiyan Saga eyecatches are just part of the experience.

I agree with Rocketman that commercial breaks can seriously ruin the flow of a movie, but eyecatches are brief enough that they don't take me out of the story, so from there it's just a matter of whether I like the eyecatches in question, and I do for all of them past the first series.

[Rocketman]

Besides, if I'm paying for something, why the hell would I want less material?

For the same reason you don't want a rock in your sandwich. Yes, it's more material, but it's completely unnecessary, totally unrelated, and it breaks your teeth/the mood.

[MajinVejitaXV]

Besides, if I'm paying for something, why the hell would I want less material?

For the same reason you don't want a rock in your sandwich. Yes, it's more material, but it's completely unnecessary, totally unrelated, and it breaks your teeth/the mood.

Says you. I find rocks in my sandwich add the necessary amount of grit I need in my diet. Besides, I have teeth made of tungsten steel.

[Li'l Lemmy]

Says you. I find rocks in my sandwich add the necessary amount of grit I need in my diet. Besides, I have teeth made of tungsten steel.

What's this, now? I THOUGHT THAT YOU WENT TO BED.


~Da Lemmy

[MajinVejitaXV]

Says you. I find rocks in my sandwich add the necessary amount of grit I need in my diet. Besides, I have teeth made of tungsten steel.

What's this, now? I THOUGHT THAT YOU WENT TO BED.


~Da Lemmy

Insomnia sucks. SVU and the occasional glance on here are my attempts at a cure. ;p

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Fine, fine. Let there be a Skip option. Just so long as the darned things are still accessible otherwise. ^_~


~Da Lemmy

Yeah, sort of like a "marathon mode" just without the eyecatches.

Beware. You could be perceived as a dictator in saying so, and then you'll need to adjust the word filter to subjugate the massive "eyecatchers" rebellion that results from your genuine attempt to educate the fandom. Oh noes!!


~Da Lemmy

No, FUNimation would have to use it first for them to filter it.

[The Tori-bot]

Another eyecatchers for Eyecatach 1 of DBZ were multicolored those days. Think about it, Satan's children from the Saban-days were crazy back then.

Please tell me your native language is French. Because if it is indeed English... tu es completement debile. Votre grenouille a mange mon dejeuner.

[TimeCrash4]

A good thing about the eyecatches:

When you're watching a awful episode at least when they show up you'll know you're half way through the nightmare .

[SilverPlaqueVII]

Another eyecatchers for Eyecatach 1 of DBZ were multicolored those days. Think about it, Satan's children from the Saban-days were crazy back then.

Please tell me your native language is French. Because if it is indeed English... tu es completement debile. Votre grenouille a mange mon dejeuner.

Typo, I meant to say is "Eyecatches" thanks.

[Gaffer Tape]

And why shouldn't they cut the second scene? The only reason they repeated it was because they thought people would forget what happened during the commercial break. There are no commercials on DVDs/Blu-rays so repeating scenes is pointless. They can just include the extra take as a bonus feature.

And even with the pointless eyecatch separating the scenes you're still watching Kuririn summon Shenlong twice.

Yeah, you're right. Let's cut out the second act repeat. And while we're at it, how about the beginning of the first act? After all, those are often just repeats of the end of the last episode. Don't need to see it twice either. We could probably just do with one version of the opening and ending on each disc because watching those just waste time and are pretty much the same. Then I suppose we could also just snip the recaps and previews as we can see the previous and next episodes. Might as well cut the title card too, as the titles are written in the accompanying book and having to watch it on the screen will just waste time. Come to think of it, the books have synopses of the episodes as well, so how about we just leave out the rest of the episodes too? After all, no need to be redundant!

[MCDaveG]

I don't take a notice of them, it doesn't ruin any drama moment for me. I don't know what's the big deal?
For me it's simmilar to one of those reasons, why some people hate subtitles, because when they are reading, they don't see part of the picture:D
+ Imagine you are in Japan, and after this funny eycatcher comes advertisement for Coca Cola, Mc Donald, new game on SNES, some toys, VHS's, cinema trailer, sp............................................. and after ten minutes, next eycatcher.
I think that the drama already died
It seems to me like some next excuse of Funi fans, because originally, Z run in USA was without eyecatchers.

I love them because they leting me know, that you're in half of the episode.

[VegettoEX]

Another eyecatchers for Eyecatach 1 of DBZ were multicolored those days. Think about it, Satan's children from the Saban-days were crazy back then.

Please tell me your native language is French. Because if it is indeed English... tu es completement debile. Votre grenouille a mange mon dejeuner.

Typo, I meant to say is "Eyecatches" thanks.

He's not talking about your "typo".

He's talking about the fact that 99% of your posts make no sense to English speakers. You have been told time and time again. We have even asked you if English is one of your primary languages, but you either don't answer the question, or mysteriously disappear when asked. Of course, the problem is that if you don't understand English all that well, you don't understand what it is we are telling you.

People are actually starting to believe that you are nothing more than your everyday Internet troll looking for some laughs. I'm pretty sure you are just an incredibly young kid that has no sense of Internet etiquette (the copy-and-paste slaps from other websites on your own), a poor grasp on the English language (every forum post you make), and a desire to be accepted and seen as an equal (your incredibly awkward-and-incorrect posts regarding the Japanese language and translations).

I will type this in very simple English under the assumption that you do not speak the language all that well, but do understand it to some degree (call it dismissive and patronizing if you want, but nothing else seems to work):

You are very young. Your English is very, very bad. Many things that you say are wrong. People are laughing at you. They are bad people for being mean, but you make it very easy for them.

[Gozar]

And why shouldn't they cut the second scene? The only reason they repeated it was because they thought people would forget what happened during the commercial break. There are no commercials on DVDs/Blu-rays so repeating scenes is pointless. They can just include the extra take as a bonus feature.

And even with the pointless eyecatch separating the scenes you're still watching Kuririn summon Shenlong twice.

Yeah, you're right. Let's cut out the second act repeat. And while we're at it, how about the beginning of the first act? After all, those are often just repeats of the end of the last episode. Don't need to see it twice either. We could probably just do with one version of the opening and ending on each disc because watching those just waste time and are pretty much the same. Then I suppose we could also just snip the recaps and previews as we can see the previous and next episodes. Might as well cut the title card too, as the titles are written in the accompanying book and having to watch it on the screen will just waste time. Come to think of it, the books have synopses of the episodes as well, so how about we just leave out the rest of the episodes too? After all, no need to be redundant!

And then everyone can come on here and refuse to buy FUNi's release of it because they don't like the font they used to type it up