Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

[JulieYBM]

This is bafflingly stupid and sloppy.

[gregorthegame]

Yeah in episode 13 he keeps saying KAIO-Ken so... it's just a little mess-up I guess heh

[Metalwario64]

Well apparently Kayo-ken is used when Goku goes after nappa... then he says KAIO-ken when he's talking to krillin right after.
Probably for the edited version maybe??

For something they are supposedly pouring their heart and soul into, that is ridiculously sloppy... And why in the name of fuck do they need to pronounce the name incorrectly for the TV broadcast?

[gregorthegame]

Ok just finished watching all the episodes.. Some random thoughts...

-I would have to say the dub... it's pretty good.
-I love both the opening and ending dubbed themes, but i do not think there is a subtitle option for the dub, at all.
-I can actually watch an accurate dub of DBZ finally.
-Kamehame-Ha is pronounced correctly
-Title Cards are pretty accurate, minor changing of words, if any at all.
-Damn is used frequently, but not over-used.. I'd say 2-4 times per episode, more-so when the fighting begins.
-Voicework is excellent. No one has sounded like they're trying too hard.

I'd give it a solid A

[gregorthegame]

Well apparently Kayo-ken is used when Goku goes after nappa... then he says KAIO-ken when he's talking to krillin right after.
Probably for the edited version maybe??

For something they are supposedly pouring their heart and soul into, that is ridiculously sloppy... And why in the name of fuck do they need to pronounce the name incorrectly for the TV broadcast?

I heard they were using the old attack names for the edited version.

[Metalwario64]

Well apparently Kayo-ken is used when Goku goes after nappa... then he says KAIO-ken when he's talking to krillin right after.
Probably for the edited version maybe??

For something they are supposedly pouring their heart and soul into, that is ridiculously sloppy... And why in the name of fuck do they need to pronounce the name incorrectly for the TV broadcast?

I heard they were using the old attack names for the edited version.

Yeah, I know, but why is that even necessary is all I'm asking. I'm not questioning you, as you are likely correct.

Why the hell do children need to hear "KAY-O-Ken" instead of "Kaioken"? Why can't it be pronounced correctly on the TV version? Why go through the wasteful trouble of recording the same line twice, and intentionally mispronouncing a term on one? It makes absolutely ZERO fucking sense, and makes even less sense when those edited lines appear in the "uncut" dub. It will seriously piss me off if we hear "Destructo Disc" in the Fr­ieza arc's "uncut" dub...

[gregorthegame]

Why the hell do children need to hear "KAY-O-Ken" instead of "Kaioken?" It makes absolutely no fucking sense, and makes even less sense when those edited lines appear in the "uncut" dub. It will seriously piss me off if we hear "Destructo Disc" in the Fr­ieza arc!

I hear ya.. I know what you mean..
They DO use Kienzan, here tho.

[Kirbopher]

The only reason I even brought it up again is because every time a new discovery shows up, everyone assumes that it; though that's my fault too. At the same time I'm also just trying not to be misinterpreted on anything else.

Also to sort of agree with penguintruth about something, I had asked about the seriousness to be taken by certain characters' voices, specifically Chris'. Obviously, him still doing Piccolo, Vegeta AND Yamcha sounds like it'd be a bit much, and to be honest, I didn't have the best first reaction either. However, that fear was alleviated by what you guys have pointed out: the changed script. The new dialogue is better to the point of the more charactery (less-natural) sounding voices not coming off as incredibly forced; that and they didn't go into this with a kiddie-mentality either so that plays a lot into it.

Last thing is that yeah there's probably a few inconsistencies, which is more than likely why Tri-Beam and the slipped "Kayoken" made it in there. When dub productions are done with multiple lines for the uncut and edited-broadcast releases, there's always a few screw-ups here and there, but I think it's excusable.

[ohaimynameiserik]

Last thing is that yeah there's probably a few inconsistencies, which is more than likely why Tri-Beam and the slipped "Kayoken" made it in there. When dub productions are done with multiple lines for the uncut and edited-broadcast releases, there's always a few screw-ups here and there, but I think it's excusable.

Laziness/stupidity on the editor's part is not excusable, unless he has a mental illness.

Seriously, HOW does something like that slip?

[mysticgoten]

Can someone post some clips on YouTube?
Other than the 9000 scene.

[Rocketman]

HEAR THAT, EVERYONE?! VEGETA AIN'T OFFERING GOKU A JOB ANYMORE!!

Sorry, we're too busy whining about minor pronunciation differences.

[coola]

Could you tell,please,if Gohan call Piccolo Mr.Piccolo,or just Piccolo?

[DemonRin]

The only reason I even brought it up again is because every time a new discovery shows up, everyone assumes that it; though that's my fault too. At the same time I'm also just trying not to be misinterpreted on anything else.

I gotta ask, why is this secret something that must be kept under wraps? I mean, it's not like if they find out you leaked it, they'll fire Sabat...
Is it because he won't float you any more information if you do?

[Li'l Lemmy]

HEAR THAT, EVERYONE?! VEGETA AIN'T OFFERING GOKU A JOB ANYMORE!!

Sorry, we're too busy whining about minor pronunciation differences.

Yeah. I guess real and meaningful changes that make sync the dub more closely with the original story ain't worth getting as excited about. ^_~


~Da Lemmy

[Blue]

Hurray for making a relatively competent script! Unfortunately the voice acting really isn't doing it for me and the incorrect terminology is uncalled for. Well I'll be passing on this release for the time being it seems, however I'm still glad dub fans will get to watch the actual show this time around. Too bad the Z movies/specials are forever screwed. I can imagine someone watching Kai and then going into movie 4 and cringing at the corny dialogue.

[Li'l Lemmy]

Not necessarily. Never doubt the power of fandom. If we support this release and make it a giant seller, it will send a message to FUNimation that we were genuinely happy with the release and its dub. It might convince them to think back to Kai when they finally get going on their Movies DragonBox and decide on a fresh recording for some or all of the movies.

Very unlikely, of course. But still possible. There's no language louder than money.


~Da Lemmy

[Kirbopher]

Last thing is that yeah there's probably a few inconsistencies, which is more than likely why Tri-Beam and the slipped "Kayoken" made it in there. When dub productions are done with multiple lines for the uncut and edited-broadcast releases, there's always a few screw-ups here and there, but I think it's excusable.

Laziness/stupidity on the editor's part is not excusable, unless he has a mental illness.

Seriously, HOW does something like that slip?

It's happened at some point with EVERY show that has two different dubs (essentially) produced, or at least in cases where differently written lines must be recorded for the same scene. Naruto had a couple moments with slip-ups, One Piece has PLENTY of little inconsistencies (mainly lingering from the NY-produced one). When you work with Shonen shows that have a billion different attack names and character names and "terms" and things like that, it can be difficult to manage enough. With rare cases like this, where you're working with stuff that has been changed, and yet is the precedent material that's ingrained in the show for so long (even if it IS incorrect), it IS easy to forget and slip up here and there.

[bkev]

Also remember, Sabat got Kaio-Ken right in the original UUC dub track. So it's not an isolated incident with Kai where a term is incorrectly/correctly pronounced in the wrong place.

[ohaimynameiserik]

Eh. It's not make or break. But it's like being in a room with one mosquito flying around.

[Mewzard]

I'd never notice just one mosquito, except by chance. Now, a room full of 200 mosquitoes, I'd notice and scream.

And Kirbopher's right, in a long running series with a lot of terms and attack names, especially in the case of multiple dubs or transitions from another dub, odds are, there's going to be a slip up or two by pure accident.