The anime portrayed Goku as being more affectionate?

[SylentEcho]

Why did the Anime portray Goku as being more affectionate? Sure he cared about his loved ones, but never showed it. The anime has so many moments, like the one where he wakes up after his bout with that heart virus and carries Chi Chi, then as Roshi is on the floor we can see Goku and Chi Chi's bodies go close for a second to imply that they kissed. Goku did have a father-son bond with little Gohan, but it was shown a lot more in the Anime like when he would ruffle his hair and hug him etc.

Why is this?

[Cipher]

1) More room for little character moments like that when you're advancing the story through twenty-two minutes of animation than through fifteen pages of manga.

2) Said anime keeping a schedule behind said manga requires additional scenes, some of which may be little character moments.

3) Toei has a raging hard-on for Goku, as should be made clear by ... like, everything.

[MCDaveG]

Still it's better then Saint Seiya, where the main character lies unconsciousness on the floor for the whole saga when everyone is fighting hard with their life on stake and after 30 episodes he gets up and performs his signature attack and everybody shouts his name. Others are laying on the floor almost killed but the main character is the hero of the day. I'm always saying that Dragon Ball was executed well by TOEI in comparisson to other series.

[ShonenKnife]

Still it's better then Saint Seiya, where the main character lies unconsciousness on the floor for the whole saga when everyone is fighting hard with their life on stake and after 30 episodes he gets up and performs his signature attack and everybody shouts his name. Others are laying on the floor almost killed but the main character is the hero of the day. I'm always saying that Dragon Ball was executed well by TOEI in comparisson to other series.

Wasn't Goku dead for the majority of the Saiyan fight?
Wasn't he absent for the majority of the Ginyu fight?
Wasn't he out of commission until at least 2 people were owned in the fight with Freeza?
Didn't he sit in the back powering up a Genki Dama while Vegeta fought Buu?

I'm kidding. I've never even watched Saint Seiya.

[Chuquita]

Toei's re-interpretation of Goku first meeting Goten in GT's flashbacks is a lot more affectionate than I recall it in Z's anime, and it doesn't even happen at all in the manga. Infact, I don't ever remember Goku hugging anybody like this. It's a cute screenshot, and I like it, but I'm well aware this is all Toei.



I second the 'some people at Toei really like Goku a lot' thing.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Aww, that so cute.



Anyways, I have to agree with everyone in saying that Toei made Goku more affectionate in the Anime. But I don't really have a problem with it.

[Cipher]

I second the 'some people at Toei really like Goku a lot' thing.

Well, considering that more than a few peoples' livelihoods there depended on being able to slap his face onto products, it's understandable.

[Chuquita]

I second the 'some people at Toei really like Goku a lot' thing.

Well, considering that more than a few peoples' livelihoods there depended on being able to slap his face onto products, it's understandable.

Very true. I like him quite a bit (Goku's one of my favorite DB characters), so it's never really bothered me much. :3

[Silver Sinspawn]

Still it's better then Saint Seiya, where the main character lies unconsciousness on the floor for the whole saga when everyone is fighting hard with their life on stake and after 30 episodes he gets up and performs his signature attack and everybody shouts his name. Others are laying on the floor almost killed but the main character is the hero of the day. I'm always saying that Dragon Ball was executed well by TOEI in comparisson to other series.

Wasn't Goku dead for the majority of the Saiyan fight?
Wasn't he absent for the majority of the Ginyu fight?
Wasn't he out of commission until at least 2 people were owned in the fight with Freeza?
Didn't he sit in the back powering up a Genki Dama while Vegeta fought Buu?

I'm kidding. I've never even watched Saint Seiya.

Goku spends half of his life dead (I realize that makes no sense, bear with me) and one quarter of his life training a kid or away. He's a shit family man, so I don't see him as being affectionate

[rereboy]

Goku spends half of his life dead (I realize that makes no sense, bear with me) and one quarter of his life training a kid or away. He's a shit family man, so I don't see him as being affectionate

Yeah, he would be a much better family man if he actually didn`t die to protect them and his friends or didn`t train to protect them from upcoming threats.

I really don`t see why everybody seems to think he`s such a bad family man...

Lets analyze the matter:

After getting together with Chichi he spends 5 years living happily with her and Gohan, until Raditz appears when he goes to visit his friends, and so he dies protecting everyone and taking out Raditz.
He then spends about a year training to save Earth, his family and friends from the other two sayans and immediately after being brought back he does essentially that, risking his life and almost dying again. He gets hurt during the battle so he has to stay in the hospital while Gohan and the others go to Namek.
After hearing the news about Freeza`s men and Vegeta`s arrival at planet Namek, with the help of a senzu Bean and Bulma`s father, he immediately departs towards the planet to save his son and friends, training all the way there and he does save them.
He doesn`t die in the battle but he spends about a year in space learning a valuable technique. He wasn`t in a hurry because he thought everyone was safe and he had already told everyone that he would be back and not to worry with the help of the Dragon.
Then he arrives and Trunks warns him about the future. He spends three years with his family but still training in preparation for the androids. He later dies to save everyone from Cell.
After that he gets revived in the buu saga and spends 10 years with his family but then he decides to train Uub while making sure that his family knows the he`ll come back every so often.

So... Exactly which of this is his fault? Two things: not coming back immediately after leaving Namek and going to train Uub.
The technique he was learning was well worth the time he wasted after the Freeza saga and he could have even learned even more techniques but he wanted to return to Earth so he didn`t waste any more time. Also, he had warned his family and he thought everyone was safe so he knew he could afford to take some time and learn that technique, since it could be extremely useful in the future. And it was. It saved Earth from Cell and it even allowed Earth to have another Kami and dragon balls once again.
As for Uub, Earth always needs champions to keep it safe so, training Uub and making sure he didn`t turn out evil like he could have turned out if he had grown up without guidance and that terrible power is a pretty smart move. Also, Goku wasn`t moving to another planet, I`m sure he still kept in touch with his family, especially since he can teleport.

The only problem with Goku is that he apparently lets a long time go by without seeing some of friends like Bulma and Krillin. But that doesn`t seem to be the case with his family.

[Li'l Lemmy]

Toei's re-interpretation of Goku first meeting Goten in GT's flashbacks is a lot more affectionate than I recall it in Z's anime, and it doesn't even happen at all in the manga. Infact, I don't ever remember Goku hugging anybody like this. It's a cute screenshot, and I like it, but I'm well aware this is all Toei.

*snip*

I second the 'some people at Toei really like Goku a lot' thing.

Wait. What? . . . this doesn't happen?

I haven't seen very much of the manga, but until now I had assumed that at least some attention was given to it. How the hell is this handled in the manga, then? Does Goku say even two words to his son, or what?


~Da Lemmy

[Kaboom]

How the hell is this handled in the manga, then? Does Goku say even two words to his son, or what?

Panel One: *Goku pointing, looking surprised*
Goku: "Oh, you're my son! I thought you kinda looked like me!"

Panel Two: *Goten peeking out from behind ChiChi shyly*
ChiChi: "Goten, honey, it's your dad!"


That's it. I think there's a bit more to it later when Goku's getting taken away back to the afterlife. The hug and the "take care of your mom" and what-not.

[JulieYBM]

I'd say so. A lot of the scenes between Gokû and his boys tend to really carry a lot of weight because of Nozawa's performances. I'd say that alone has convinced me Gokû really loves his family. Then there's all the littler moments where he'd tell them to tag along for fun or whatever.

[Vegeta Jr]

I would say Goku is pretty selfish, he masks his sacrifices as 'I'm saving the planet and my family' but we all know he really loves fighting anyway and would be better for his family if he didn't leave them every 2 seconds.

I have always said it but Piccolo is way more of a father to Gohan than Goku could ever dream to be, this annoys me because Gohan ends up using Goku's colours.

[NeoKING]

I would say Goku is pretty selfish, he masks his sacrifices as 'I'm saving the planet and my family' but we all know he really loves fighting anyway and would be better for his family if he didn't leave them every 2 seconds.

I have always said it but Piccolo is way more of a father to Gohan than Goku could ever dream to be, this annoys me because Gohan ends up using Goku's colours.

Of course Goku is selfish. All he ever does is meet rich people, become stronger than the gods themselves, and get ass from Chichi to have children - children which he doesn't even have to raise because he has his friends and family to do that for him. And not only that, but he can still communicate with everyone he cares about even when he's dead. Even when he's dead he has nothing to worry about, and he can still fight in the afterlife. Goku gets what Goku wants, all the time, lol.

I also agree with the Piccolo being more of a dad to Gohan thing.

[JulieYBM]

I would say Goku is pretty selfish, he masks his sacrifices as 'I'm saving the planet and my family' but we all know he really loves fighting anyway and would be better for his family if he didn't leave them every 2 seconds.

I have always said it but Piccolo is way more of a father to Gohan than Goku could ever dream to be, this annoys me because Gohan ends up using Goku's colours.

Of course Goku is selfish. All he ever does is meet rich people, become stronger than the gods themselves, and get ass from Chichi to have children - children which he doesn't even have to raise because he has his friends and family to do that for him. And not only that, but he can still communicate with everyone he cares about even when he's dead. Even when he's dead he has nothing to worry about, and he can still fight in the afterlife. Goku gets what Goku wants, all the time, lol.

I also agree with the Piccolo being more of a dad to Gohan thing.

That kind of ignores the first four years of Gohan's life, the three years they spent before the Artificial Humans showed up, the year in the Room of Spirit and Time, and then ten years after Boo was defeated. Discounting GT, there's also Neko Majin Z where Gokû seems to be living back at home, as well.

He and Gohan also apprently loved to go fishing together, so score one for non-training father-son time...

[Silver Sinspawn]

Goku spends half of his life dead (I realize that makes no sense, bear with me) and one quarter of his life training a kid or away. He's a shit family man, so I don't see him as being affectionate

Yeah, he would be a much better family man if he actually didn`t die to protect them and his friends or didn`t train to protect them from upcoming threats.

I really don`t see why everybody seems to think he`s such a bad family man...

Lets analyze the matter:

After getting together with Chichi he spends 5 years living happily with her and Gohan, until Raditz appears when he goes to visit his friends, and so he dies protecting everyone and taking out Raditz.
He then spends about a year training to save Earth, his family and friends from the other two sayans and immediately after being brought back he does essentially that, risking his life and almost dying again. He gets hurt during the battle so he has to stay in the hospital while Gohan and the others go to Namek.
After hearing the news about Freeza`s men and Vegeta`s arrival at planet Namek, with the help of a senzu Bean and Bulma`s father, he immediately departs towards the planet to save his son and friends, training all the way there and he does save them.
He doesn`t die in the battle but he spends about a year in space learning a valuable technique. He wasn`t in a hurry because he thought everyone was safe and he had already told everyone that he would be back and not to worry with the help of the Dragon.
Then he arrives and Trunks warns him about the future. He spends three years with his family but still training in preparation for the androids. He later dies to save everyone from Cell.
After that he gets revived in the buu saga and spends 10 years with his family but then he decides to train Uub while making sure that his family knows the he`ll come back every so often.

So... Exactly which of this is his fault? Two things: not coming back immediately after leaving Namek and going to train Uub.
The technique he was learning was well worth the time he wasted after the Freeza saga and he could have even learned even more techniques but he wanted to return to Earth so he didn`t waste any more time. Also, he had warned his family and he thought everyone was safe so he knew he could afford to take some time and learn that technique, since it could be extremely useful in the future. And it was. It saved Earth from Cell and it even allowed Earth to have another Kami and dragon balls once again.
As for Uub, Earth always needs champions to keep it safe so, training Uub and making sure he didn`t turn out evil like he could have turned out if he had grown up without guidance and that terrible power is a pretty smart move. Also, Goku wasn`t moving to another planet, I`m sure he still kept in touch with his family, especially since he can teleport.

The only problem with Goku is that he apparently lets a long time go by without seeing some of friends like Bulma and Krillin. But that doesn`t seem to be the case with his family.

1) Did Uub actually do anything after Goku trained him?
2) He also left for 100 years. Sure, he wanted to keep the earth safe, but his family probably all died when he was gone

Sure, he's saving the world, but he spent maybe 20 years with Chichi (at a maximum).

[Travis Touchdown]

My only real gripe is abandoning his family to go live with Uub's family so he could train him. Why not bring the runt back to his place to train? Or give Uub a formal invitation to train under him and even give him Nimbus so Uub would have to find him himself the same way Goku had to find Roshi's place? Why not say "Hey I'm gonna go live with Uub to train with him for 6 months or so. Then I'll be back with him and we'll train at our place for 6 months and so on." Dragon Ball GT made it a little better by having them up on Dende's Lookout. Sure Goku was still away from his family, but it just seemed more fair to have Uub missing out on his family as well.

[SylentEcho]

Well, Toriyama always wanted Goku to go away from everyone in the end. He wanted to portray him being care-free and this was his way of doing it.

As far as I see it, Gohan did end up with Piccolo's clothes in the Cell saga because he thought of Piccolo more as a father figure than a trainer.
It's isn't a shame that he wore his father's clothes during the Boo saga. Actually there is a very good reason for this. His father had been dead for so long and Gohan finally getting to see him again made him so happy and also reminded him what an awesome fighter his dad used to be, hence he wore it.

One thing I didn't like is when Gohan gave him possibly the last hug ever since he was going back to earth from the other world, Goku never hugged him back although he knew he would probably never see him again.

On a side note, the Boo story was just poorly done, Goku just wasn't acting himself throughout that entire saga.

[Rocketman]

I have always said it but Piccolo is way more of a father to Gohan than Goku could ever dream to be

Now that's just silly. As far as we know, Goku never abused Gohan.