Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again

[Kendamu]

I'm of the mindset that no FUNimation things even need be mentioned at all unless it's necessary for full understanding of whatever article. Yes, I understand many of us happen to live in territories where FUNimation happens to distribute the show, but why should they get mentioned instead of the Mexican dub? The French dub? The Cantonese dub?

Maybe if we don't mention it it'll just go away.

Well, currently, the dub has been reduced to the rank of "an afterthought" as per the most current release of DBZ and certain people at FUNimation seem to be of the mind that the Kai dub is supposed to be a replacement for the Z dub.

So, yeah, you're a lot more right than you think. We should probably help them along by not mentioning it on the Wiki.

[Greenman]

I'm of the mindset that no FUNimation things even need be mentioned at all unless it's necessary for full understanding of whatever article. Yes, I understand many of us happen to live in territories where FUNimation happens to distribute the show, but why should they get mentioned instead of the Mexican dub? The French dub? The Cantonese dub?

I can understand not mentioning dubs within articles on characters/locations/whatever, but would it be okay to make an article called, "FUNimation reversioning of DragonBall, "American adaptions of DragonBall", or something similar? It would be great to have an article that details the history of DragonBall in a particular country, local dub names, changes made to the story, etc. Not just for FUNimation, but for any adaption.

[Innagadadavida]

I think it's perfectly logical to document FUNimation's mistreatment of the series on the actual article for FUNimation.

Here's a thought I had the other day. Could we create pages for themes within Dragon Ball; themes like Friendship, Perseverance, Redemption, ext. with examples from the story? Perhaps we could group them together with a navigation panel.

How about Dragon Ball's influences? Could we document examples from other media that potentially influenced any particular portion of the Dragon Ball story? Obvious examples include King Kong, Drunken Master, Terminator, ext.

[VegettoEX]

I think it's perfectly logical to document FUNimation's mistreatment of the series on the actual article for FUNimation.

Here's a thought I had the other day. Could we create pages for themes within Dragon Ball; themes like Friendship, Perseverance, Redemption, ext. with examples from the story? Perhaps we could group them together with a navigation panel.

How about Dragon Ball's influences? Could we document examples from other media that potentially influenced any particular portion of the Dragon Ball story? Obvious examples include King Kong, Drunken Master, Terminator, ext.

Yes, yes, and absolutely!

I'd like to keep this kind of stuff in the wiki pretty... I dunno how to describe it... fact- and evidence-based, though...? Kinda like a scholarly article. For example, take my "DragonBall GT Ending Analysis" tidbit -- that's not something I would expect in the wiki, but rather on the website(s) proper.

[Innagadadavida]

That's the reason I raised the question. I understand that our goal is to provide solid evidence and factual reason behind every article. It may be tough to find facts or quotes (that really count) behind influences on Dragon Ball. However, the movies I listed are very obviously directly influential. In cases like that, how would we handle it?

Maybe I'm getting a little ahead of myself. Gotta crawl before we can fly.

[Bussani]

They use the dub names, dub attacks and dub dialogues on all the pages.

Despite what they themselves seem to think, the terminology they use is the least of their problems.

[Silver Sinspawn]

That's the reason I raised the question. I understand that our goal is to provide solid evidence and factual reason behind every article. It may be tough to find facts or quotes (that really count) behind influences on Dragon Ball. However, the movies I listed are very obviously directly influential. In cases like that, how would we handle it?

Maybe I'm getting a little ahead of myself. Gotta crawl before we can fly.

Drugs. Toriyama did hard drugs, and after manga about shit, he came up with Dragon Boy, and then he did HARDER drugs, and Dragon Ball was formed. But seriously, Besides Journey to the West, I don't think there are that many influences.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

I think we should at least mention the dub in some of the articles, not disregard it completely.

[Silver Sinspawn]

I think we should at least mention the dub in some of the articles, not disregard it completely.

I assume we'd have an article for the dub itself, and an an article for dub changes.
Also they'd have dub names listed under alternate names.

[Fin]

I think we should at least mention the dub in some of the articles, not disregard it completely.

Mention it in what capacity? I think Mike has made it clear that the wiki's focus will be on the original version, and given that there will probably be some kind of article or series of articles relating to various translations I don't really see how it's being disregarded.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

I think we should at least mention the dub in some of the articles, not disregard it completely.

I assume we'd have an article for the dub itself, and an an article for dub changes.
Also they'd have dub names listed under alternate names.

Yes, this is really what I'm hoping for in regards to the dub in the Daizex Wiki.

[LilKokuLink]

Anyone know if Bubbles was given that name because of Michael Jackson's pet chimp? I've always wondered about that.

[The Time Traveller]

Anyone know if Bubbles was given that name because of Michael Jackson's pet chimp? I've always wondered about that.

That's a strange thing to bring up, but he obviously is, unless Bubbles is a common name among monkeys or there's some outlandish reason for him to be called Bubbles that I hadn't even heard of.

He should have been partners with Jango the Hypnotist in Cross Epoch...

[LilKokuLink]

I just thought about it when Innagadadavida mentioned influences taken by DragonBall and it's always been a question in the back of my mind.

[Adamant]

Really not the thread for this, but yes, he was.

[Kiyza]

Anyone know if Bubbles was given that name because of Michael Jackson's pet chimp? I've always wondered about that.

Actually, that's exactly where the name comes from. I remember Herms bringing that up in one of his name pun threads.

[SylentEcho]

and certain people at FUNimation seem to be of the mind that the Kai dub is supposed to be a replacement for the Z dub.

Really? What makes you think that? I think Funi have finally started to realize that the Japanese version is way better than their version. Freakin' noobs, Sabat and the lot.

I think it's perfectly logical to document FUNimation's mistreatment of the series on the actual article for FUNimation.

This would be excellent, it would finally make those Funi fangirls shut up. There are so many people on sites like YouTube saying Schemmel is a much better Goku than Nowaza because Goku isn't supposed to sound like a girl.

[TripleRach]

I think it's perfectly logical to document FUNimation's mistreatment of the series on the actual article for FUNimation.

This would be excellent, it would finally make those Funi fangirls shut up. There are so many people on sites like YouTube saying Schemmel is a much better Goku than Nowaza because Goku isn't supposed to sound like a girl.

It's one thing to debunk misinformation and spread the word about FUNimation's alterations, but making dub fans "shut up" about their preferences is something else entirely, and I don't think it's really one of the goals of the wiki.

[Piccolo Daimao]

How about Dragon Ball's influences? Could we document examples from other media that potentially influenced any particular portion of the Dragon Ball story? Obvious examples include King Kong, Drunken Master, Terminator, ext.

Well, not ones that we don't have any confirmation on. Because I haven't heard any confirmation that the Cell Arc was influenced by the Terminator. Unless I'm wrong and it is confirmed.

[Innagadadavida]

Well, not ones that we don't have any confirmation on. Because I haven't heard any confirmation that the Cell Arc was influenced by the Terminator. Unless I'm wrong and it is confirmed.

That was the reason I was asking. We don't have written evidence for something like themes or influences on Dragon Ball... But then again, there's no written evidence that the sky is blue.