Future Trunks and the dragonballs

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Future Trunks and the dragonballs

Post by LeprikanGT » Sun May 09, 2010 4:23 pm

Why didn't anyone in Future Trunks' timeline use the Namekian dragonballs to bring anyone back to life? They were on their new planet already and had used wishes to help out the Earth before, so why not get them to help again?

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Post by Vegeta Jr » Sun May 09, 2010 4:25 pm

Porunga can only bring one person back at a time. They were also impossible to reach without an extremely long spaceship ride or Instantaneous Movement.

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Post by Terra-jin » Sun May 09, 2010 4:30 pm

And Goku died of natural (sort of) causes, so he couldn't be brought back anyway.
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Re: Future Trunks and the dragonballs

Post by Vegeta Jr » Sun May 09, 2010 4:31 pm

I would say disease is natural selection, so yea it was natural causes.

Maybe even Yamcha aswell, that was obviously natural selection as he is so weak. :) (4th fav character btw).

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Post by LeprikanGT » Sun May 09, 2010 5:02 pm

Porunga could still have brought 3 of them back to help fight. Piccolo for the Earths ball, Vegeta since he was the strongest, and that would have left a wish as well as Shenron being alive again.

They could have got King Kai to talk to the Nameks like they had before, Gohan knew how all that goes about happening, so did Bulma.

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Post by Vegeta Jr » Sun May 09, 2010 5:10 pm

Bringing back people who were already killed by these two isn't the best Idea ever, also bringing back Piccolo/Kami would still leave a year to wait for the Dragonballs to come back.

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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Sun May 09, 2010 5:48 pm

Vegeta Jr wrote:Bringing back people who were already killed by these two isn't the best Idea ever, also bringing back Piccolo/Kami would still leave a year to wait for the Dragonballs to come back.
Nah, Kami-sama can recharge the Dragon Balls himself. See: Piccolo Daimao arc.
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Post by LeprikanGT » Sun May 09, 2010 6:11 pm

Vegeta being there would have helped out much more than if someone was fighting alone.

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Post by caejones » Sun May 09, 2010 6:24 pm

The problem is that they'd have to find New Namek first.
Is Kaio going to tell them where it is? Everyone that knows him is dead. Since when does Gohan communicate with him?
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Post by Dayspring » Sun May 09, 2010 6:25 pm

They didn't know where New Namek was located and had no means of contacting Kaio. What I want to know is why Goku never had Baba take him back for 24 hours.
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Post by LeprikanGT » Sun May 09, 2010 6:37 pm

Anyone can talk to King Kai like that and new Namek os in the same spot as old Namek.

If nothing else someone could have gottan Baba to go to Other World and contact them.

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Post by caejones » Sun May 09, 2010 7:09 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Anyone can talk to King Kai like that.
They can?
New Namek os in the same spot as old Namek.
It is?
If nothing else someone could have gottan Baba to go to Other World and contact them.
Assuming that Baba was around and willing to listen... but this is a good point, as she probably was. Hmm.

Though now I'm wondering how many Baba-like people there are in the universe.
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Re: Future Trunks and the dragonballs

Post by EnmaDaiou » Sun May 09, 2010 8:26 pm

1 - There's no spaceship
2 - They don't know the localization of new nameck
3 - Kaiou could help, but just if he wanted or really thinks that's the case of a Kaiou interfere.
4 - Never see anyone but Goku contacting Kaiou.

The androids were problems only on earth.
Not like Freeza. Freeza was weaker than androids but he was a menace for many planets.
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Re: Future Trunks and the dragonballs

Post by Bussani » Sun May 09, 2010 9:47 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Anyone can talk to King Kai like that
How? Do they have his phone number?
and new Namek os in the same spot as old Namek.
The Namekians used one wish to transport themselves to a new planet. Why would that planet be in the same spot as Old Namek? They didn't wish for Old Namek to be restored.
If nothing else someone could have gottan Baba to go to Other World and contact them.
Assuming she's alive. Actually, I wouldn't put it past her to flee to the afterlife.
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Re: Future Trunks and the dragonballs

Post by LeprikanGT » Sun May 09, 2010 9:59 pm

Baba knows the future, she would have had the foresight to get out of harms way.

We see other people besides Goku talking to King Kai.

The point I was trying to make was.....if the remaining 'Z' people put any real effort into it, they could have found New Namek if it was to save the lives of everyone else.

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Post by Bussani » Sun May 09, 2010 10:23 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Baba knows the future, she would have had the foresight to get out of harms way.
Then why didn't she warn anyone else?
We see other people besides Goku talking to King Kai.
But only when he talks to them. None of them can just close their eyes and ring him up. If he didn't contact them (which he clearly didn't) then they're stuck.
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Post by LeprikanGT » Sun May 09, 2010 11:13 pm

They could have used Baba to get in touch with Other World.
Even if not, Goku would have had his body again, as he does when he dies fighting Cell, so he would have known about everyone else dying as well.

Its just one of those things thats highly probable, just a plot line that wasn't followed.

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Post by EnmaDaiou » Mon May 10, 2010 7:19 am

Uranai baba have limitations on her precognition power.

And she just have the right to walk between worlds.

It could ba a possibility to help.
But we don't know if some help was really possible.
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Re: Future Trunks and the dragonballs

Post by Velasa » Tue May 11, 2010 2:16 am

Well during the whole period we get to see the Mirai world it's just out of the picture- while the androids are running around there's no way in hell a spaceship would be able to get out of the atmosphere, it'd be too much of a big shiny target. Any thought on the subject would have to wait until after the big threats were out of the way, then Bulma would be able to get around to designing/building a new spaceship in case they were able to contact anyone. Baba's likely to have fled but her little brother's still around and could try to get in touch with her. It wouldn't be easy at all, but it's possible they could have brought a few of the people closest to them back slowly.
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Re: Future Trunks and the dragonballs

Post by Xyex » Tue May 11, 2010 3:00 am

What is it with people assuming the Kaios sit around all day doing favors for random mortals? And yes, the remaining Z Fighters who never trained under Kaio are all random mortals. Just because they're part of the main cast of the show doesn't make them special in the eyes of the gods of the universe. Kaio's no more going to pop up in Gohan's head and go "Hey, want me to wish back your friends for you?" than Kaioshin is going to pop up on some alien world and go "Hey, want me to wipe out the Saiya-jins for you, before Goku, the greatest hero this universe will ever see, is born, thus ensuring the destruction of everything at the hands of Majin Buu some forty years from now?"

Yes, King Kai helped Goku and the others find Namek originally, but, uh, Goku's his student. Bending the rules in that case is possible because I'm sure he's allowed to talk with and aid his students. It just so happens that Goku's alive. Something I'm quite sure doesn't happen very often. Most people in the universe stay dead. So the Kaios aren't going to be butting in on mortal matters just because.
LeprikanGT wrote:Anyone can talk to King Kai like that and new Namek os in the same spot as old Namek.

If nothing else someone could have gottan Baba to go to Other World and contact them.
New Namek is in a brand new location. The Nameks didn't have their world restored, they found themselves a new one somewhere else in the universe and wished themselves there. Only they know where it is. Goku had to go to Otherworld to find the place before the Cell Games. I don't think Bulma would have much luck finding it.

And as for Baba, what's she going to do? The most she could possibly attempt to do is to have be Goku given a day pass back to Earth to fight the Androids. But the Kais are as unlikely to allow for that as Kaioshin is to step in and fight them himself. Even Goku says in the Buu Saga that the dead have no place in the living world, doing things for the living.
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