"DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

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Post by SonEric84 » Wed May 26, 2010 10:15 pm

Scarz wrote:But that's why I like his voice so much! Personally I think it fits better with the look of the character than the "wise old" master voice. Surely I'm not the only one who thinks so?

If they had his ocean VA doing the voice, then I'd be happy. I'm neutral to this one though, I mean...it's not great, but I don't need to change the channel when I hear it either.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Wed May 26, 2010 10:18 pm

Sanjiscool wrote:I also think I'm the only one who thinks that Burgmeier improved a little as Tenshinhan. His voice seems a lot more natural and less gravelly like it used to.
He also has much more emotion to his performance this time around.
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Post by ohaimynameiserik » Wed May 26, 2010 10:19 pm

Scarz wrote:He said that Gohan's "gorilla mode" would've helped kill the Saiyans.
He hit the nail on the head!!

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Post by G1Ravage » Thu May 27, 2010 12:43 am

The episodes tonight had their correct credits. I also noticed that episode six didn't list Ocean as the video editor; it listed some other company.

They left in Gohan peeing. I wonder if they'll leave in Kaio peeing for distance with Bubbles. Or mention it by name.

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Post by Zionist » Thu May 27, 2010 12:45 am

Kaio-Sama said his only funny joke and it was during credits. It was about Oranges and Concentrate. I actually chuckled at it a bit.
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Post by Kaboom » Thu May 27, 2010 12:49 am

In an effort to do some restructuring and cleanup in this here Kai subforum, I renamed the thread. As you might have guessed from looking at it, we should try to use it as the general talkback thread for "DragonBall Z Kai" on TV; whether it be on Nicktoons, CW4Kids, and wherever else it may pop up in the future. Honestly, I don't think we need separate threads for each week's worth of episodes... >_>

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Post by SaiyamanMS » Thu May 27, 2010 3:07 am

Honestly, I've never had any problem with Schemmel's King Kai myself, largely because he reminds me a lot of a history teacher I knew in high school. (Same vast wisdom, same wacky voice type, same sense of humour...)

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu May 27, 2010 5:32 am

Scarz wrote:
But that's why I like his voice so much! Personally I think it fits better with the look of the character than the "wise old" master voice. Surely I'm not the only one who thinks so?
I think that as well. His dub voice fits both his personality and appearance.

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Post by penguintruth » Thu May 27, 2010 5:00 pm

The voice misses the point of the character, though. Kaio-sama is supposed to be a god and a sagely figure, even if he's a bit eccentric. The dub voice makes him too obviously wacky, the voice itself becomes a joke, and that misses the point. Funimation is really good at that.
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Post by dan2026 » Thu May 27, 2010 5:50 pm

penguintruth wrote:The voice misses the point of the character, though. Kaio-sama is supposed to be a god and a sagely figure, even if he's a bit eccentric. The dub voice makes him too obviously wacky, the voice itself becomes a joke, and that misses the point. Funimation is really good at that.
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Post by dragonpiece » Thu May 27, 2010 8:32 pm

I hardly noticedm any changes in the dailouge this episode, does anyone know them?
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Post by Suupaa Gohan 2 » Thu May 27, 2010 8:52 pm

penguintruth wrote:The voice misses the point of the character, though. Kaio-sama is supposed to be a god and a sagely figure, even if he's a bit eccentric. The dub voice makes him too obviously wacky, the voice itself becomes a joke, and that misses the point. Funimation is really good at that.
That's how I feel completely. It only hits on one aspect of his personality, and makes it impossible to take him seriously when he's not goofing off. Kinda like Tiffany Volmer's Bulma, which IMO only ever hit on the narcissistic bitch aspect of her personality, and not the genius who deep down really cares about her friends (and later, family). Both aspects of the character are important, and Kaioh's voice is just God Awful.

On a positive voice note, though:

Piccolo: "Are you alright? I think I overdid it a bit there."

...wow. I'm not sure why, but this is the most pleased I've been with a dub Piccolo line since Scott McNeil was voicing him. Something about Sabat's delivery here was fantastic, and felt more 'Piccolo' to me. He's getting better at not sounding as forced, and that's a very good thing. I know I'll absolutely never like his Vegeta, but at this rate, I feel like I can come to like his Piccolo, even if he's still no Scott McNeil.

(also it feels really weird having Gregory still in the series when this is supposed to be closer to the Manga...the whole Kuririn tells Chi-Chi that Gokou's dead filler was okay to me, but this feels odd...sorry if this has nothing to do with the dub or the TV broadcast, but it's my first exposure to Kai overall for the most part, so I'm collecting my random thoughts in one place)
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Post by jjgp1112 » Thu May 27, 2010 8:55 pm

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote: Piccolo: "Are you alright? I think I overdid it a bit there."

...wow. I'm not sure why, but this is the most pleased I've been with a dub Piccolo line since Scott McNeil was voicing him. Something about Sabat's delivery here was fantastic, and felt more 'Piccolo' to me. He's getting better at not sounding as forced, and that's a very good thing. I know I'll absolutely never like his Vegeta, but at this rate, I feel like I can come to like his Piccolo, even if he's still no Scott McNeil.

(also it feels really weird having Gregory still in the series when this is supposed to be closer to the Manga...Kuririn breaking the 'Goku's dead' news to Chi-Chi was okay to me, but this feels odd...sorry if this has nothing to do with the dub or the TV broadcast, but it's my first exposure to Kai overall for the most part, so I'm collecting my random thoughts in one place)
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I was typing a post explaining why I loved this line, and then when I submitted it, the board told me that another post had been made since I was typing mine and yours came up. I agree. He sounded very fatherly and concerned when he said that line.
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Post by penguintruth » Thu May 27, 2010 9:00 pm

Gregory sounds super-weird. But I guess it's not difficult to imagine that's what a cricket-person-thing would sound like. I just don't see why they changed it when he's such a minor character and the previous voice was decent enough.

Same with Oolong, but I actually kind of like it. Though Brian Massey's sounding like Ladd Russo, so now I imagine Oolong dancing in a puddle of blood talking about how he likes killing. And then fighting on the roof of a train. Uh, but actually the accent does sort of work. It's not a bad voice for the character, but I do question the reason why they recast it. It didn't ever seem to be one of those voices that were screaming out for a recasting. I'm not mad they did it, but it's a little weird, is all.

Sabat's Yamcha sure has come a long way. I'm completely over any problem I had with it before. He may not be Tohru Furuya, but he's now pretty good in the role.
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Post by Suupaa Gohan 2 » Thu May 27, 2010 9:20 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:GODDAMN YOU.

I was typing a post explaining why I loved this line, and then when I submitted it, the board told me that another post had been made since I was typing mine and yours came up. I agree. He sounded very fatherly and concerned when he said that line.
Lol. Well, it's cool to know I'm not the only one who noticed that. I was thinking 'that's such a random line to fixate on' and thought I was being weird. :P

Is it possible that some of the recast voices have to do with actors that didn't want to/couldn't come back? Because yeah, Gregory and Oolong are so minor that recasting for the sake of making them sound different seems odd. For instance, how Scar had to be recast in FullMetal Alchemist: Brotherhood now that Dameon Clarke is gone. ...which makes me wonder what's gonna happen when they get to Cell. I know Kai isn't even that far in Japan yet, but having never exactly been...er...enthusiastic about FUNi's dub in any way, I still always loved Clarke's Cell, and in some cases preferred it to the Japanese. So when the time does come, I'm gonna be sad. :(

(Scar's new VA sounds horrible and I can't help but imagine Cell with that voice X_X)
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Post by Metalwario64 » Thu May 27, 2010 9:22 pm

I believe Travis Willingham's site said that he will be playing him in Kai.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Thu May 27, 2010 9:23 pm

Travis Willingham is basically confirmed to be playing Cell. He plays him in Raging Blast and said it on his website. And his voice is almost exactly the same as Dameon Clarke's. If you didn't already know that Clarke left FUNi, you'd probably never would've even known that Cell had a new VA.
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Post by penguintruth » Thu May 27, 2010 9:34 pm

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:For instance, how Scar had to be recast in FullMetal Alchemist: Brotherhood now that Dameon Clarke is gone. ...which makes me wonder what's gonna happen when they get to Cell. I know Kai isn't even that far in Japan yet, but having never exactly been...er...enthusiastic about FUNi's dub in any way, I still always loved Clarke's Cell, and in some cases preferred it to the Japanese. So when the time does come, I'm gonna be sad. :(

(Scar's new VA sounds horrible and I can't help but imagine Cell with that voice X_X)
Dameon Clarke's Scar wasn't that great, in my opinion. Too "generic bad guy". But yeah, his new voice isn't great, either. Both Japanese voices have this deep, almost booming quality that makes the character seem more intimidating.

And preferring Clarke's Cell over Norio Wakamoto? Such blasphemy! :p
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Post by Suupaa Gohan 2 » Thu May 27, 2010 9:41 pm

penguintruth wrote:Dameon Clarke's Scar wasn't that great, in my opinion. Too "generic bad guy". But yeah, his new voice isn't great, either. Both Japanese voices have this deep, almost booming quality that makes the character seem more intimidating.
I liked him as Scar, but I also prefer the first Anime series to the Manga's version of the storyline (IE Brotherhood's), and Scar is a very different character among the two, but still...eh, but that's off-topic. :P
penguintruth wrote:And preferring Clarke's Cell over Norio Wakamoto? Such blasphemy! :p
I said at times, at times!! Mainly, I always remembered preferring how he said 'playtime is over, children!! You may kill them now.' to the Cell Jr.'s before Gohan's transformation...it was before Cell lost it and started going batshit crazy, but Wakamoto sounded kinda angry when he said it, so I dunno...moments like that where I felt Clarke's portrayal was calmer, which felt more 'Cell-like' to me...Wakamoto was fantastic, but he had a tendency of yelling angrily in scenes where it didn't feel like Cell should be yelling (and isn't he kinda known for yelling anyways? ^^; )

But I agree that Travis' type of voice is very similar to Clarke's. Knowing that he's (most likely) going to fill the void is reassuring. Though I'll probably be expecting Cell to snap his fingers and create fire...
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Post by dragondyle » Thu May 27, 2010 10:45 pm

I can't believe they kept in Gohan AND Kaiou peeing, haha.
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