DragonBall Z Kai - Cable TV Version (NickToons)

[Taku128]

From a business perspective there's literally no point in doing this. All you'd be doing is wasting money by paying someone to prepare two separate versions for TV instead of one.

Yeah, it's all about money! they don't really care about fans!

The fans can stop being cheap little pricks and actually support the franchise they supposedly care so much about by buying the Blu-rays instead of using any method they can find to watch the show without having to pay for it. The company shouldn't care for the fans more then the fans care for the company.

[kaloosa]

I wholeheartedly agree with Taku on that one. Granted, I'm just watching the NickToons broadcast at this point. Maybe FUNi will go ahead and do a "DragonBox Z Kai" down the road. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. But fans should support their favorite show. Not just by buying DVDs and BDs, but by official merchandise as well. Toys, games, posters etc. You have to give in order to get.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

this show is meant for 8 year old babbys so that's all well and good.

No, Shonen series are produced for male teenagers, ie roughly between the ages of 10 and 18.

少年 (Shōnen) literally means "Small Years" but it is generally used to refer to a young boy or juvenile. So Shonen Manga and Anime aren't only for boys over 10.

[Big Momma]

You know, I never understood why exactly yellow blood was leaking out of Tenshinhan's stump when his hand was punched off

Can anyone explain this to me? Was it just for a dramatic anime effect?

Yeah, I've always thought it was just to highlight the blood by making it glow, but I did always think it was a bit odd.

They do the same thing in the "Hokuto no Ken" anime, if I'm not mistaken.

[Mewzard]

You know, I never understood why exactly yellow blood was leaking out of Tenshinhan's stump when his hand was punched off

Can anyone explain this to me? Was it just for a dramatic anime effect?

Yeah, I've always thought it was just to highlight the blood by making it glow, but I did always think it was a bit odd.

They do the same thing in the "Hokuto no Ken" anime, if I'm not mistaken.

To be fair, Hokuto no Ken is massively censored compared to the manga. The anime is really violent, but a lot of bloody detail *actually seeing someone's insides, rather than just a flash and explosion* is lost.

Japan's had their own odd censorship choices.

[Cold Skin]

The "glowing blood" from Ten Shin Han's arm is a form of censorship. You see what looks like energy, even though you know it's not, and therefore those disgusted with blood coming from a cut arm won't be disgusted at all. Just not seeing the regular red blood is enough for someone not to be scared or disgusted, as it doesn't remind you or make you think of any painful sensation. Simply turning the blood green, yellow or other colors is a form of censorship encountered in some video games in itself, and is enough to get away from the idea of regular blood and not being hurt by that sight.

Here it was chosen that it glows in yellow so that it makes you think of energy, which is probably the most valid thing you could see if not blood. Sometimes, it is turned white so that it makes you think of saliva. Some other times, it is chosen to turn the whole image negative or bluish or stuff for that shot, again a trick to change the color of blood seen from the wound itself (yamcha getting impaled, Gohan cutting Bojack's men in halfs...).

[Amigo Ten]

Aw, any reason for changing the topic title? I liked being able to see what the latest episode was at a glance.

[Tanooki Kuribo]

Oh, because if I don't update with a new episode within three days, I delete the "Updated Ep. **" in the title cause it's not really new so...

[Tanooki Kuribo]

Will Goku make it in Time?! Three Hours Until the Battle Resumes!

I had to go on youtube for the title screen of the TV version, that's why it looks like crap, sorry.





First edit we have for this episode is a dialogue edit. Nappa asks Vegeta why they have to wait three hours, Vegeta says he wants to wait for Kakarrot so he can make him suffer...



Nappa starts talking to Vegeta about who is fighting who in three hours. Nappa says he want to "sink his teeth" into Piccolo, Gohan and Krillin. Vegeta replies...



Nappa then says...



A little later on, Nappa gets bored and decides to play with the news people. Nappa shoots his eye beams at a crowed of camera men and reporters, the shot of the crowed is cut out of the TV version...



Eventually the 3 hour grace period comes to an end and Goku hasn't arrived yet. Krillin yells out...



Meanwhile, Goku finally makes it back to the check in station. King Yemma's name plaque is edited to read "King Yemma"... (Yea, this shot was from youtube also, sorry....)





Later, Piccolo plans an attack and puts it into action. Piccolo grabs Nappa's tail but it doesn't faze him. Nappa looks back at Piccolo and says "You son of a... ", this was cut in the TV version.



In the uncut version, the next shot was of Piccolo in shock with a purple bruise on his head. The camera zooms out and Nappa comes into the frame. This was all cut in the TV version...



They did show a shot of Piccolo being hurt by Nappa's attack. It was the shot right before Piccolo faints and Nappa tosses him to the ground...



Funny thing is in the TV version we see Krillin in the air looking down and saying "This...this isn't happening" then we see Piccolo fainting. But originally, this scene came after Piccolo fainted. You can see Piccolo already slumped over in the Krillin shot, see...



After Piccolo faints, Nappa is holding his body and tells him not to die because they have questions about the DragonBalls. This was cut...



With Piccolo down, Nappa now goes after Gohan. Originally, Nappa kicks Gohan up in the air then chops him into a mountain\rock wall type of thing. But in the TV Version we only see Nappa about to chop, a white flash, then we see Gohan hit the wall.





Nappa then tells Gohan...



Nappa then rushes to attack Gohan again but this time Krillin intervenes. Originally Krillin kicks Nappa, then punches him in the face. In the TV Version Krillin only punches him, the kick is cut out...



So, like I just said, Krillin only punches Nappa in the TV version but, I realized even that punch was edited. It's slight but it's there. Basically the frame of animation that shows Krillin connecting with his punch has a flash of light instead. It reminds me of the Saban edits. More on this in the tidbit section.

Next Krillin powers up an attack and throws it at Nappa. Yes, it's the Kienzan. I didn't mark this as an edit cause it's the first time we are hearing this attack name so if they're going with Kienzan then, it's not really an edit. If later on he calls it a Destruco Disc though, then it becomes an edit.

So, Krillin throws the damn thing at Nappa. He dodges it at the last second, but it still manages to nick his face. Any shot of Nappa after this scene is edited. I'm not going to show every scene he's in after this because well, it's a lot. So here is the first edit of Nappa's cut... I know these shots were taken at two different points within the zoom out shot of Nappa's face... but I thought it was good enough...





Pissed that he missed, Krillin says...



Nappa then throws an energy blast at Krillin that knocks Krillin to the floor. Nappa is about to finish him off but then Piccolo blast Nappa's back. Nappa and Piccolo have an exchange of words, some are edited...



Piccolo and the others start to sense Goku. Piccolo says...



Fearing the arrival of Goku, Vegeta tells nappa to kill them all! Gohan steps in and tells piccolo he can handle Nappa by himself. Nappa charges toward Gohan. Piccolo thinks to himself...



But, surprisingly Gohan kicks Nappa right in the face sending him flying. In the TV version again, right when the attack connects, we get a flash on the screen and then a black screen with some impact lines, I'm gonna talk about this in the tidbits section so just hold on for now.

This, of course pisses Nappa off. He conjures up some power full energy in his hand and is about to throw it at Gohan. Nappa was originally all bloody in this scene, he is now cleaned up in the TV version...





Nappa throws the ki blast at Gohan (blood is also edited so, two pictures) and yells...





We then see another shot of Nappa, with blood edited out. The episode ends as Piccolo jumps in front of Nappa's blast. Dun, dun dun!

Oh and by the way, "It's over 9,000" will indeed be in the TV version of episode 12. Chris Sabat says it just like Brian Drummond so you know they only changed it for this internet fad... thing...

Tidbits!

So, I want to talk about these screens that are replacing connecting hits. I'm going to talk about, specifically, when Gohan kicked Nappa. These are the two frames of animation right before the flash comes on...



You, see that black screen? That's not in the original version. I guess that's what is going to be replacing connecting hits to the face. I gotta say I like this better then the way it was done back in 1996. This way seems less distracting, you would never known anything was cut out... unless you're a Daizexer, of course.

In typical nerdy fashion though, I went so far as to dissect the two versions of this scene. I had it play one frame at a time so I can see every bit of animation and make sure the black screen wasn't in the original version. Check it out for yourself, no black screen in the uncut version. You can see every frame of animation. The TV version is a little blurry though, my camera was trying to focus, but you can still see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT3wnOsQjf8

So... yea, put that in your pipe and smoke it...

[dan2026]

Wow so they are still putting hit flashes to block impacts.
Goddamn its really is like we are back in the 90s.

Makes me sick.

I do appreciate you doing all these comparisons though dude, makes for interesting if depressing reading.

[Amigo Ten]

Oh, because if I don't update with a new episode within three days, I delete the "Updated Ep. **" in the title cause it's not really new so...

Ah, fair enough.

[DBwad]

What I don't understand about the way Dragon Ball Kai is aired in America is the fact that the rating couldn't be brought up to TV-PG like the One Piece, Naruto and Naruto Shippuden edited versions so it could allow for less edits. In One Piece, for example, the TV dub was able to say words like "crap" and the like.

[bkev]

The main speculation is that the TV cut is meant to adhere to theCW standards as well as Nicktoons, but we'll find out once it makes it there.

[ssgOverlord]

Man, these are superb comparisons. Keep up the amazing work!

Hopefully just this thread will archive them on the Internet for a long time.

[dragonpiece]

Thank's Tanooki, I have been enjoying these so far. But when you get to episode 14, how do you plan on doing the script changes?

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

What I don't understand about the way Dragon Ball Kai is aired in America is the fact that the rating couldn't be brought up to TV-PG like the One Piece, Naruto and Naruto Shippuden edited versions so it could allow for less edits. In One Piece, for example, the TV dub was able to say words like "crap" and the like.

Because it's airing on 4kids' channel and we all know their views on censorship.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

Great job so far, Tanooki.

How about http://www.dbzkaiuncensored.com ?

Actually, how to view DBZ Uncensored's images?

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Great job so far, Tanooki.

How about http://www.dbzkaiuncensored.com ?

Actually, how to view DBZ Uncensored's images?

DBZ Uncensored's has been down for ages.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

I can still visit the website

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

I can still the website

Well, I'll be damned. Someone's hosting it.


The images are working fine for me though.