"DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

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Re: "DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

Post by LeprikanGT » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:17 pm

Wtf is with the song in the background while Krillin was picking up everyone's bodies? It seems grossly out of place and took me out of the moment more than any moment in the show before.

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Post by MR.Mark » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:21 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Wtf is with the song in the background while Krillin was picking up everyone's bodies? It seems grossly out of place and took me out of the moment more than any moment in the show before.
You haven't been watching many episodes of DB or DBZ in Japanese have you?

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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:25 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Wtf is with the song in the background while Krillin was picking up everyone's bodies? It seems grossly out of place and took me out of the moment more than any moment in the show before.
Can't relate to that at all, unfortunately. I love the dubbed version more than the original version.
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."

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Post by Kirbopher » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:26 pm

Sounds like Stephanie Young did the English "OVER THE STAR".

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Post by LeprikanGT » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:35 pm

I've watched the first 13 episodes on US bluray and all the episodes on nicktoons.

I had my back to the tv listening to it while doing other stuff and it stopped me dead in what I was doing.


.......Is the JP version full of that?

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:37 pm

FUNi is dubbing the insert songs! They're really serious about Kai.

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Post by El Diabeetus » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:39 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:FUNi is dubbing the insert songs! They're really serious about Kai.
Looks that way. I'm really curious to see how they're gonna handle Only a Chilling Elegy and Saiyan Blood. Also, with Only a Chilling Elegy, that scene on Nicktoons. That'll be severely censored.

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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:44 pm

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Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:FUNi is dubbing the insert songs! They're really serious about Kai.
Looks that way. I'm really curious to see how they're gonna handle Only a Chilling Elegy and Saiyan Blood. Also, with Only a Chilling Elegy, that scene on Nicktoons. That'll be severely censored.
It doesn't surprise me that they're dubbing the insert songs. They were doing that with "One Piece," too.

But yeah...that "Only a Chilling Energy" scene is going to be censored to within an inch of its life. I remember seeing that scene for the first time on YouTube and laughing thinking about how censored it was going to be. I laughed and thought out loud, "thank God for uncut DVDs."
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."

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Post by El Diabeetus » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:47 pm

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SSJ4 Furanki wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:FUNi is dubbing the insert songs! They're really serious about Kai.
Looks that way. I'm really curious to see how they're gonna handle Only a Chilling Elegy and Saiyan Blood. Also, with Only a Chilling Elegy, that scene on Nicktoons. That'll be severely censored.
It doesn't surprise me that they're dubbing the insert songs. They were doing that with "One Piece," too.

But yeah...that "Only a Chilling Energy" scene is going to be censored to within an inch of its life. I remember seeing that scene for the first time on YouTube and laughing thinking about how censored it was going to be. I laughed and thought out loud, "thank God for uncut DVDs."
Oh, yeah. No doubt. But, considering in the past Dragon Ball always got the oddball treatment with insert songs. So, to see them in this time around is nice.

Yeah, Uncut all the way. I want it to be September, well it'll be later than that for those songs; but, still.

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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:54 pm

As far as the actual song, "Only a Chilling Energy"...I think they'll dub that, too. Not only that, I would go as far as to say they'll dub it with an actual choir. For the dubbed version of the song "Compass" (the end of One Piece Movie 8 ), they brought in an actual choir to sing some of the lines in English.
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Post by penguintruth » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:58 pm

They handled "Over the Star" pretty well, I thought.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:13 pm

"It might as well have been in Japanese!" :P
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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:16 pm

It sounded like Brina Palencia was singing Over The Star, but I'm not sure.
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Post by penguintruth » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:31 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:"It might as well have been in Japanese!" :P
I actually chuckled at this line, then cursed myself for doing so.

I forgot to mention, but I'm glad they had Goku's real reason for sparing Vegeta's life.
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Post by LeprikanGT » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:34 pm

I missed tonight's episode.....what was Goku's reason for letting Vegeta go? To live with his shame or something?

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:39 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:I missed tonight's episode.....what was Goku's reason for letting Vegeta go? To live with his shame or something?
To let him get healed so he could fight him again.
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Post by El Diabeetus » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:40 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote:As far as the actual song, "Only a Chilling Energy"...I think they'll dub that, too. Not only that, I would go as far as to say they'll dub it with an actual choir. For the dubbed version of the song "Compass" (the end of One Piece Movie 8 ), they brought in an actual choir to sing some of the lines in English.
Yeah, the choir was what I was wondering about. But, that also leaves the question who'll be the English guy for H.E. DEMON?
EDIT: Watched it again, that part isn't in the TV Version. Actually, I've only seen the part on Episode 37's. Apparently it's in Episode 40 according to Kanzentai.
LeprikanGT wrote:I missed tonight's episode.....what was Goku's reason for letting Vegeta go? To live with his shame or something?
"I know it sounds insane, but I wanna fight him again. It gets me excited that there's someone with that kind of strength and it only makes me wanna get stronger. I wanna fight him again."

Not the exact wording; but, Goku just being selfish and wanting to fight Vegeta again in the future.

Yeah, what YBM said.
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Post by penguintruth » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:41 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:I missed tonight's episode.....what was Goku's reason for letting Vegeta go? To live with his shame or something?
Because he's impressed with his strength and doesn't want to see it wasted. He wants to fight Vegeta again someday.

Though in the past, the dub has kept in the part about admiring his strength, they've always given Goku more altruistic reasons for letting Vegeta go, "to show him what mercy is like". Goku's real motivation is much more selfish, keeping in line with his personality of wanting just to fight a really strong opponent.

It's good to see Funimation acknowleding Goku's actual personality.
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Post by LeprikanGT » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:43 pm

I guess that's better than cut his head off now and you and Gohan are going to get your behinds handed to you when you arrive on Namek. :P

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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:01 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:I guess that's better than cut his head off now and you and Gohan are going to get your behinds handed to you when you arrive on Namek. :P
I've always thought that many things considered "unfortunate" in DBZ actually guaranteed the better outcome. For example, let's say Piccolo's makankossapo actually hit Raditz the first time around, without killing Goku. Then Goku wouldn't have died...and he also wouldn't have received King Kai's training, which more than anything else helped ensure a victory over Vegeta.

Speaking of Vegeta...if they killed him, then it would have been Gohan and Krilln/Kuririn alone going to Planet Namek, and the Ginyu Force would most likely have killed them. They almost did anyway, but Vegeta was able to hold them off for a little while before Goku showed up and took care of the situation.
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."

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