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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by LeprikanGT » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:59 pm

Depending on the release date, this shall be a release date buy for me.

I won't believe Gt characters until I see a scan. I doubt we will get anyone aside from the SS4s and Baby Vegeta/Super 17/Omega.



And for semi-most of the haters on this game; when RB came out, werent there a ton of people saying they didnt like it and how BT3 was better.....well now it seems like those people and now complaining that they think this is a BT3 clone [which they are Wrong] but pick and arguement and stick with it.

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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Ultimate_DB_Fan » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:15 am

Much of the hate for RB is laughable, 'cause I just know that the haters don't utilize the gameplay to its full potential. When you know how to play, RB can be a fun title.

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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:00 am

Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:Much of the hate for RB is laughable, 'cause I just know that the haters don't utilize the gameplay to its full potential. When you know how to play, RB can be a fun title.
"Derp, I no how 2 play u just keap presing sqare and u beet da hole game."



Seriously, it's getting old. Fast.

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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by mysticboy » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:34 am

Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:Much of the hate for RB is laughable, 'cause I just know that the haters don't utilize the gameplay to its full potential. When you know how to play, RB can be a fun title.
I agree with you 100%.

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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Rory » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:18 am

Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:Much of the hate for RB is laughable, 'cause I just know that the haters don't utilize the gameplay to its full potential. When you know how to play, RB can be a fun title.
But why would you want to do all the technical stuff if it doesn't help you win? Yes, the "mashing square" argument is very valid, because all the fancy warps, counters, stat buffers seem to be making it seem a little less stupid to be bashing the same button constantly. You don't NEED that stuff to finish the game, so what's the point in it?

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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:02 am

Rory wrote:
Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:Much of the hate for RB is laughable, 'cause I just know that the haters don't utilize the gameplay to its full potential. When you know how to play, RB can be a fun title.
But why would you want to do all the technical stuff if it doesn't help you win? Yes, the "mashing square" argument is very valid, because all the fancy warps, counters, stat buffers seem to be making it seem a little less stupid to be bashing the same button constantly. You don't NEED that stuff to finish the game, so what's the point in it?
Because it makes the game more fun and challenging.

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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Blue » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:11 am

Playing with only your right hand does too, why should I have to add the challenge the programmers left out?
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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:26 am

Blue wrote:Playing with only your right hand does too, why should I have to add the challenge the programmers left out?
Because Raging Blast isn't designed to be played with one hand, just like how Raging Blast isn't designed to be played as a button masher.

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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Blue » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:36 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Blue wrote:Playing with only your right hand does too, why should I have to add the challenge the programmers left out?
Because Raging Blast isn't designed to be played with one hand, just like how Raging Blast isn't designed to be played as a button masher.
Yet I can beat it as one, must not be designed very well if I can play it and beat it as a completely different genre. :lol:
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:42 am

Blue wrote: Yet I can beat it as one, must not be designed very well if I can play it and beat it as a completely different genre. :lol:
I could say the same thing about the Budokai series, Super DBZ, Street Fighter, Tekken, Soul Calibur and many other fighting games. Yes, you can button mash your way through these games, but where's the fun in that? I take my time with these games and learn all the combos and special moves, rather than giving my fingers a spastic workout.


And since when is "button mashing" a genre?

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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Blue » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:45 am

Actually no if you button mash in games like Street Fighter and Tekken on a mode past "babby easy" you're pretty much going to get your ass handed to you. Because...they're well designed.

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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:53 am

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What does "recovery" mean?
I don't know, because that looks an awful lot like Goku getting knee'd in the chest so hard that the rocks behind him are cracking from the sheer force.

I would hardly call having your ribs broken a recovery.

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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:58 am

Blue wrote:Actually no if you button mash in games like Street Fighter and Tekken on a mode past "babby easy" you're pretty much going to get your ass handed to you. Because...they're well designed.
Actually you can button mash and win in many fighting games, regardless of whether they're well designed. Check out this guy playing Tekken 4. He's button mashing and you don't see him "getting his ass handed to him".

Blue wrote: Also thank you D Mc.NP!
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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Blue » Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:01 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Blue wrote:Actually no if you button mash in games like Street Fighter and Tekken on a mode past "babby easy" you're pretty much going to get your ass handed to you. Because...they're well designed.
Actually you can button mash and win in many fighting games, regardless of whether they're well designed. Check out this guy playing Tekken 4. He's button mashing and you don't see him "getting his ass handed to him".
Because he's playing as Eddy Gordo the one character in Tekken where you CAN do this strategy without losing because of that break dancing technique. He's pretty infamous for being a shit character button mashers love. They're called "Eddy Mashers".
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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:05 am

Blue wrote: Because he's playing as Eddy Gordo the one character in Tekken where you CAN do this strategy without losing because of that break dancing technique. He's pretty infamous for being a shit character button mashers love. They're called "Eddy Mashers".
Did you even watch the video? He was clearly playing as Christie.

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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Blue » Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:08 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Blue wrote: Because he's playing as Eddy Gordo the one character in Tekken where you CAN do this strategy without losing because of that break dancing technique. He's pretty infamous for being a shit character button mashers love. They're called "Eddy Mashers".
Did you even watch the video? He was clearly playing as Christie.
Don't be an idiot, Eddy is an alternative costume for Christie because they both play the exact same way.

http://www.tekkenpedia.com/wiki/Christie_Monteiro
A further criticism is inherited from Eddy directly--many fans despise Tekken's interpretation of capoeira, as used by both Eddy and Christie. A common criticism is that it rewards button mashing players too richly.
http://www.tekkenpedia.com/wiki/Eddy_Gordo
Eddy Gordo first appeared in Tekken 3, and he has returned to every game released after. In Tekken 4 and Tekken 5, he was merely a "costume" swap for Christie Monteiro
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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:21 am

Blue wrote: Don't be an idiot, Eddy is an alternative costume for Christie because they both play the exact same way.

http://www.tekkenpedia.com/wiki/Christie_Monteiro
A further criticism is inherited from Eddy directly--many fans despise Tekken's interpretation of capoeira, as used by both Eddy and Christie. A common criticism is that it rewards button mashing players too richly.

Look, my point still stands. You can still button mash and win (to varying degrees) in some of the most well made fighting games. Everyone goes on about how much Tenkaichi 3 can be a button masher, when a lot of other fighting games (Budokai 3 included) can be aswell.

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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Blue » Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:25 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote: Eddy Gordo and Christie are separate characters, you specifically said he was playing as Eddy.


Look, my point still stands. You can still button mash and win (to varying degrees) in some of the most well made fighting games. Everyone goes on about how much Tenkaichi 3 can be a button masher, when a lot of other fighting games (Budokai 3 included) can be aswell.
Except, they're not. Eddie is an alternative costume for Christie. They are literally THE same character.

Tekken has ONE character that caters to button mashers, Tenkaichi has what...140? When you have one cheap character nobody uses in the game fine, when you made an entire roster full you programmed the game like a moron. And as I said if you turn the AI up past "higgledederp" mode most fighting games will kick your ass badly if you just slam on buttons. Hell even Tekken won't take Gordo's shit on a high difficulty.
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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:40 am

Blue wrote: Except, they're not. Eddie is an alternative costume for Christie. They are literally THE same character.
I know. I realised that after I posted my reply.
Blue wrote: Tekken has ONE character that caters to button mashers, Tenkaichi has what...140? When you have one cheap character nobody uses in the game fine, when you made an entire roster full you programmed the game like a moron. And as I said if you turn the AI up past "higgledederp" mode most fighting games will kick your ass badly if you just slam on buttons.
Tenkaichi 3 included. Seriously, go up against a very hard leveled CPU button mashing and see what happens.


You're missing my point. Yes, you can button mash and sometimes win in Tenkaichi 3 and in most 2D fighters. Nothing new there. But you're taking the fun of learning combos and special moves by doing so. I've completed story mode and beated my friends button mashing in Soulcalibur II. Are you going to tell me that it's a poorly designed game now?

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Re: Raging Blast 2 is Alive!

Post by Blue » Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:49 am

I have, Tenkaichi's AI is piss easy to fool.

I think you're missing my point. If the game gives you zero reason to actually WANT to learn it all of the deeeeeep combos are pointless. If the AI peaks at being destroyed by shooting KI beams from a distance and getting behind it so you can wail on the square button it's not really worth getting more in depth with ways to destroy it.

What level diffculty did you play Story Mode on? Also your friends are not AI. They could be awful at the game. Of course now it's your word against mine which is an awesome thing to have during this kind of discussion.
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