Fusion Problem
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Fusion Problem
I've been wondering, what would happen if a fused character lost a limb? If Gogeta for example lost an arm, would Goku and Vegeta both lose the same arm?
Re: Fusion Problem
No, the Fusions are their own separate beings, so I don't think any severe changes would remain when the separate. When defusing after their battle with Super Boo, Goten and Trunks weren't injured or scuffed up like Gotenks was. The only instance in which damage to a Fusion carried over to the "Fusers" was, I'm pretty sure, filler.
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So if they are their own seperate being, does that mean if they were to fuse again, they would still have the same injury?
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What instance would that be?Kaboom wrote:The only instance in which damage to a Fusion carried over to the "Fusers" was, I'm pretty sure, filler.
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Nope. Gotenks went after Majin Buu and came back covered with injuries. When Goten and Trunks fused a half hour or so later, Gotenks was right as rain.
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Re: Fusion Problem
The one where Gotenks goes to fight Majin Buu before he "learned" Super Saiyan. He gets his ass kicked on the boat and returns to Kami's lookout.Herms wrote:What instance would that be?Kaboom wrote:The only instance in which damage to a Fusion carried over to the "Fusers" was, I'm pretty sure, filler.
In the anime, when Gotenks defuses, Bulma and is seen tending Trunks wounds, while Chi Chi whips Gotens ass until Piccolo buts in.
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Ah OK, then that is filler. In the manga, we see Gotenks come back all beat up, but we don't see him defuse into Trunks and Goten.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:The one where Gotenks goes to fight Majin Buu before he "learned" Super Saiyan. He gets his ass kicked on the boat and returns to Kami's lookout.
In the anime, when Gotenks defuses, Bulma and is seen tending Trunks wounds, while Chi Chi whips Gotens ass until Piccolo buts in.
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Yeah, what he said.
Nah. The Fusion seems to be "re-created" every time the two individuals fuse. In the same instance regarding Super Boo, where Gotenks was battle-worn from fighting... when he re-fused right before getting absorbed, he was fine again. Same with the other example. Base Gotenks got the crap beaten out of him by Fat Boo, but was perfectly fine later when he re-fused at Super Saiyan.wings34 wrote:So if they are their own seperate being, does that mean if they were to fuse again, they would still have the same injury?
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Re: Fusion Problem
Guys, with your examples, we know that the fusion is indeed a separate being, if it gets injured, this won't impact the original warriors, and next time they fuse, the fusion is born anew.
But now this brings another question: what happens if the fusion dies? Do you think it would be the same? The fusion is dead, but the original warriors are left undamaged and can "ressurect" the fusion just by fusing again? It would not be illogical, and it'd be quite a cool advantage to use. Maybe fusion being killed just unfuse it immediately into two perfectly fine warriors (similar to Gotenks unfusing when smashed-dead to the ground in the Tapion movie?), or maybe it remains a corpse for the remaining minutes until unfusing into two perfectly fine warriors.
But now this brings another question: what happens if the fusion dies? Do you think it would be the same? The fusion is dead, but the original warriors are left undamaged and can "ressurect" the fusion just by fusing again? It would not be illogical, and it'd be quite a cool advantage to use. Maybe fusion being killed just unfuse it immediately into two perfectly fine warriors (similar to Gotenks unfusing when smashed-dead to the ground in the Tapion movie?), or maybe it remains a corpse for the remaining minutes until unfusing into two perfectly fine warriors.
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Looking at it reversed... if say Future Gohan fused with another Saiyan would their fusion also be missing one arm?
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Maybe the arm on Gohan's missing side would only be half as strong?Son_Gohan wrote:Looking at it reversed... if say Future Gohan fused with another Saiyan would their fusion also be missing one arm?
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Point A) I don't think it works like that. Just because the fusion being is separate from their fusees doesn't mean they are immortal. Gotenks seems very scared of death at the hands of Super Buu once Super Saiyan 3 runs out. I see no reason for him to be scared if he could simply be revived one the fusion wears off. I'm pretty sure that if Goten and Trunks fuse into Gotenks and then Gotenks gets killed, that all three simply perish. I mean Gotenks is dead, so there is no Gotenks to defuse from per say.
Point B) How whould Future Gohan fuse with another Saiyan via dance? They have to be symmetrical, which is impossible for him with only one arm. =P Now for Potara, that's a good question. I'd assume the resulting fusion would have both arms, similar to how Vegeta was dead when Goku and Vegeta became Vegetto, but Vegetto was alive.
Now I have a question slightly outside the canon. Since Enma Daio has to stamp a new death into heaven or hell, what happens if two fighters fuse into a dead warrior? Did Gogeta get his own paper in movie 12, despite Enma being incapacitated? Since they had a failed fusion first and then a regular one second, did Gogeta need two documents? IF Goku and Vegeta decided to fuse every 90 minutes (30 for fusion, 60 for waiting), would Enma constantly have to file a new document for Gogeta every time he was created?
Point B) How whould Future Gohan fuse with another Saiyan via dance? They have to be symmetrical, which is impossible for him with only one arm. =P Now for Potara, that's a good question. I'd assume the resulting fusion would have both arms, similar to how Vegeta was dead when Goku and Vegeta became Vegetto, but Vegetto was alive.
Now I have a question slightly outside the canon. Since Enma Daio has to stamp a new death into heaven or hell, what happens if two fighters fuse into a dead warrior? Did Gogeta get his own paper in movie 12, despite Enma being incapacitated? Since they had a failed fusion first and then a regular one second, did Gogeta need two documents? IF Goku and Vegeta decided to fuse every 90 minutes (30 for fusion, 60 for waiting), would Enma constantly have to file a new document for Gogeta every time he was created?
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That wouldn't be a problem. He couldn't do the Fusion Dance anyways.Son_Gohan wrote:Looking at it reversed... if say Future Gohan fused with another Saiyan would their fusion also be missing one arm?
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Potara fusion!The Tori-bot wrote:That wouldn't be a problem. He couldn't do the Fusion Dance anyways.Son_Gohan wrote:Looking at it reversed... if say Future Gohan fused with another Saiyan would their fusion also be missing one arm?
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With porata, the answer is no, because one of them would still have the arm going into the fusion. Whether it's weaker than the other arm, I don't know for sure, though.Kid Buu wrote:Potara fusion!The Tori-bot wrote:That wouldn't be a problem. He couldn't do the Fusion Dance anyways.Son_Gohan wrote:Looking at it reversed... if say Future Gohan fused with another Saiyan would their fusion also be missing one arm?
In other words, Potara is some sort of combination of the two being fused, not an averaging of them. If it were, then Vegetto would be weaker than Goku.
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