Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by RazorX » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:50 pm

I can't see how Nadonly's performance as Gohan is even acceptable let alone likeable. She's cringeworthy as young Gohan, I didn't like her as Cell Saga Gohan either.

However her 4 year old Gohan was terrible, because it was not only unfitting, the voice was scratchy and sounded like it could come from the mouth of someone well in their adult years, nowhere near a 4 year old's voice.

Colleen on the other hand gives a believable portrayal of a 4 year old, in both voice and acting.

If Gohan was not recast, Nadolny would've let the Kai dub down badly due to the amount of scenes Gohan is in. It would've detracted the improvement of the returning cast and the very good recasts so far. Nadolny was better as Gohan when she first started the role in 1999 than her 2005 redub. Sabat made the right decision to recast Gohan, a decision which should've been made when Funi did their 2005 redub, but their redub is rubbish so at least they made the right decision for their improved Kai dub.

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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by MR.Mark » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:54 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
MR.Mark wrote:Dude, don't make me post a voice comparison clip of Nadolny and Schwarzenegger cuz I will. :lol:
Umm...what?
Isn't it obvious? Colleen>Naldony
RazorX wrote: Colleen on the other hand gives a believable portrayal of a 4 year old, in both voice and acting.
That about sums it up nicely, plus she's just plain better in the role in general.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:56 pm

MR.Mark wrote:
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MR.Mark wrote:Dude, don't make me post a voice comparison clip of Nadolny and Schwarzenegger cuz I will. :lol:
Umm...what?
Isn't it obvious? Colleen>Naldony
Well, um, I'm glad you think that. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by MR.Mark » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:58 pm

jjgp1112 wrote: Well, um, I'm glad you think that. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
I don't need to think it, I know good acting and age appropriate voices when I hear them. Your just a vocal minority that is doing a terrible job trying to back up why you think Naldony is better. I call Nostalgia Bullshit on you good sir.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by linkdude20002001 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:00 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Umm...what?
Nadolny's Gohan makes weird sounds that are sound kinda like Schwarzenneger (I guess. I haven't heard a lot of his work). But, you know, those "wuh-uh-uh-uh" sounds she makes.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:01 pm

linkdude20002001 wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Umm...what?
Nadolny's Gohan makes weird sounds that are sound kinda like Schwarzenneger (I guess. I haven't heard a lot of his work). But, you know, those "wuh-uh-uh-uh" sounds she makes.
Yeah, I'm still lost.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by MR.Mark » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:02 pm

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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:03 pm

MR.Mark wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote: Well, um, I'm glad you think that. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
I don't need to think it, I know good acting and age appropriate voices when I hear them. Your just a vocal minority that is doing a terrible job trying to back up why you think Naldony is better. I call Nostalgia Bullshit on you good sir.
Really, why should I try to "defend" what I'm saying, I could write an entire essay on why Nadolny is good, and you still wouldn't buy it or change the way you think. So rather than just go in circles, I'm just giving up. I don't care anymore.

And, you know, everyone else besides you is actually being respectful.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by linkdude20002001 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:04 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Yeah, I'm still lost.
Alright, I'll find a clip. I remember very clearly that she did it during the fight with Cell.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by Kaboom » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:05 pm

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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:05 pm

linkdude20002001 wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Yeah, I'm still lost.
Alright, I'll find a clip. I remember very clearly that she did it during the fight with Cell.
I've watched the fight with Cell enough times to have it completely memorized. I think I would've noticed it by now.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by MR.Mark » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:06 pm

Well try us, write that essay, it'd certainly lend you more credibility to your argument, if you actually have one.

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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by linkdude20002001 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:14 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I've watched the fight with Cell enough times to have it completely memorized. I think I would've noticed it by now.
It's not the worst I've heard from her, but it's here in this clip. Gohan transforms into Super Saiyan 2 (ENG with Japanese music)
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:19 pm

linkdude20002001 wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I've watched the fight with Cell enough times to have it completely memorized. I think I would've noticed it by now.
It's not the worst I've heard from her, but it's here in this clip. Gohan transforms into Super Saiyan 2 (ENG with Japanese music)
Uhh...yeah, you've completely lost me. Maybe I need to watch more Arnold Schwarzenegger movies? :?
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:31 pm

MR.Mark wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote: Well, um, I'm glad you think that. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
I don't need to think it, I know good acting and age appropriate voices when I hear them. Your just a vocal minority that is doing a terrible job trying to back up why you think Naldony is better. I call Nostalgia Bullshit on you good sir.
In the interest of keeping this thread nice, I'm going to petition you again: PLEASE stop acting like your opinion is the only one that matters, and that everyone who does not agree with you is an unlightened sap. Even in instances like this where I totally agree with your opinion, it makes you simply unbearable to read. Please tone it down a bit.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by Kaboom » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:33 pm

Yeah, I'm gonna mention this just ONE last time...
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by Metalwario64 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:35 pm

I vouch for this as well guys. I'm not trying to mod, but I want to see this thread go somewhere positive! :)

Anyway, it seems the only known Ginyu Force recasts are for Burter and Guldo. I don't know why Guldo is being recast, as he was one of the members who weren't Sabat. I hope Jeice and Recoome are also going to be recast, and since Armstrong as retired, it's only logical that Ginyu will be recast as well, and we know it's not going to be Hebert, unfortunately breaking the chain of having Kamina be the voice of Ginyu... :cry:
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by linkdude20002001 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:38 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Uhh...yeah, you've completely lost me. Maybe I need to watch more Arnold Schwarzenegger movies? :?
Me too, 'cause I don't really see any connection. But I don't really watch his movies, so...

The point was, though, that Nadolny's "shocked noises" are very awkward sounding... Sometimes it's much worse than it is in that clip.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by MR.Mark » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:02 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote: In the interest of keeping this thread nice, I'm going to petition you again: PLEASE stop acting like your opinion is the only one that matters, and that everyone who does not agree with you is an unlightened sap. Even in instances like this where I totally agree with your opinion, it makes you simply unbearable to read. Please tone it down a bit.
Your not a mod, thank you very much, Kaboom did his job and I took his warning before you came along with this. If you find my behavior obnoxious don't respond in kind. Because I myself find wannabe modding even more unbearable to read.
linkdude20002001 wrote: The point was, though, that Nadolny's "shocked noises" are very awkward sounding... Sometimes it's much worse than it is in that clip.
I'll have to get around to doing that comparison, but the best example are probably from the re-dub with Nadolny's is 4 year old Gohan. Her "distressed sounds" and crying is SOOO unnatural and annoying. "WAHAUEHEHE-WUH-WAHAHAE"
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by Metalwario64 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:06 pm

MR.Mark wrote:Your not a mod, thank you very much, Kaboom did his job and I took his warning before you came along with this. If you find my behavior obnoxious don't respond in kind.
But he still has the right to be bothered by your attitude, and still has the right to want this thread to go into a better direction, as do I.
MR.Mark wrote: Her "distressed sounds" and crying is SOOO unnatural and annoying. "WAHAUEHEHE-WUH-WAHAHAE"
Can you please cut the attitude and try to bring this thread into a positive direction? Kaboom already gave out his last warning, so why on Earth are you still pushing it?

So, future Kai recasts? Ginyu Force should be showing up next week? All-Star cast for the Ginyu Force?
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