"DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

[penguintruth]

Sometimes it feels like a different team of writers script the first half and last half of an episode.

The scripting for Freeza in this latest episode was awesome. And Ayres' performance was pretty good, too.

(On another note, has anyone ever noticed how that room in Freeza's ship has marks on the floor that make it appear similar to a basketball court? Is Freeza going to play some hoops with the Dragon Balls?)

[B]

Do they ever do this in any of their other dubs?

FUNimation? Dub something 96% faithfully, with the other 4% being their own hooplah? Never.

Everyone rocked the latest episode, especially Ayres and Jenkins(Elder). I found that censorship of the Namek getting killed to be sloppy, though.

[JulieYBM]

Y'know, they DO list the writer in the credits. Just check out the Nicktoons website upload.

[Big Momma]

(On another note, has anyone ever noticed how that room in Freeza's ship has marks on the floor that make it appear similar to a basketball court? Is Freeza going to play some hoops with the Dragon Balls?)

I hear he's a real ball hog. All he does is sit in the corner and caress the ball.

[Metalwario64]

Do they ever do this in any of their other dubs?

FUNimation? Dub something 96% faithfully, with the other 4% being their own hooplah? Never.

Everyone rocked the latest episode, especially Ayres and Jenkins(Elder). I found that censorship of the Namek getting killed to be sloppy, though.

Well, the only other dubs that were truly from them that I believe I've seen are One Piece, Yu Yu Hakusho, "Case Closed" and Full Metal Alchemist.

I'm aware of the changes made to Yu Yu Hakusho to try and "mature" it up a bit by adding in cussing and whatnot, and "Case Closed's" numerous changes at the request of the parent company, but I don't recall any spiced up dialogue in Full Metal Alchemist and One Piece. Granted I've only seen the first three One Piece sets, but I don't recall any "sweet's" or "totally wicked, dude's!" in either dubs. Although, I do seem to recall recently visiting the Arlong Park forums, and I believe there were a few people discussing how they changed a certain line in the dub on a recent set.

It's just that the "punched up" dialogue in the past two episodes has made me fear that they are trying to ease back into the Season Three levels of awfulness, which is the last thing I want, especially since the previous "Season Three" episodes are coming up soon...

[Coola Yagami]

Yeah, Yamcha, Kaioh and Goku really hammed it up for some reason before the Freeza part. No idea why. It's especially bad for Goku cause he just doesn't talk that way. The whole 'I've been training so hard it's not even funny' or whatever, I can see the real Goku behind him scratching his head wondering what the phrase 'not even funny' means. As far as I know, Goku was never all that good with figures of speech and heavy slang.

But once the ep moved on to Zaabon, Freeza and Vegeta, the script went back into place. So weird. Did someone randomly decide to sneak some old fashioned Funiball Z goodness during the Goku scene for the hell of it?

[SonEric84]

Some of the dialogue was a little bothersome, but Zarbon, Grand Elder, and Freeza were especially excellent.

[penguintruth]

I don't recall any spiced up dialogue in Full Metal Alchemist

I do.

Funimation's writers seem to like to think they're clever and witty, but they aren't. Most of the time, their punching up of scripts just results in facepalming.

[Metalwario64]

I don't recall any spiced up dialogue in Full Metal Alchemist

I do.

Funimation's writers seem to like to think they're clever and witty, but they aren't. Most of the time, their punching up of scripts just results in facepalming.

Well, I haven't watched much in Japanese yet, so I admit that statement was a tad ignorant. But I don't remember anyone saying things like "dude", "wicked", and "totally sweet!". Granted it has been a couple of years since I've last watched it...

Well, if this stuff is indeed normal for FUNimation, then I guess that alleviates my fears of another "Season Three" dub in Kai...

[batistabus]

As inaccurate as Kaio's voice is, I feel like they're making the best of it. You're definitely not getting the same effect, but he makes me chuckle. I can deal with it.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

As inaccurate as Kaio's voice is, I feel like they're making the best of it. You're definitely not getting the same effect, but he makes me chuckle. I can deal with it.

Inaccurate to what? He's a blue catfish-like creature who likes to tell jokes and goof around. His dub voice suits both his personality and his appearance. Yes, it's nothing like his Japanese voice, but that doesn't mean it's wrong for the character.

[Kendamu]

As inaccurate as Kaio's voice is, I feel like they're making the best of it. You're definitely not getting the same effect, but he makes me chuckle. I can deal with it.

Inaccurate to what? He's a blue catfish-like creature who likes to tell jokes and goof around. His dub voice suits both his personality and his appearance. Yes, it's nothing like his Japanese voice, but that doesn't mean it's wrong for the character.

Inaccurate to the tone of his Japanese voice, you snarky ass.

[batistabus]

As inaccurate as Kaio's voice is, I feel like they're making the best of it. You're definitely not getting the same effect, but he makes me chuckle. I can deal with it.

Inaccurate to what? He's a blue catfish-like creature who likes to tell jokes and goof around. His dub voice suits both his personality and his appearance. Yes, it's nothing like his Japanese voice, but that doesn't mean it's wrong for the character.

Part of the charm of the character is he is this wise, old deity yet laughs at his own crappy jokes. I'm saying that FUNimation's version is unfaithful to that.

That aside, I really like the portrayal because I find it quite funny.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Inaccurate to the tone of his Japanese voice, you snarky ass.

But not to the tone of the actual character and his personality. Dub voices don't have to sound like their Japanese counterparts, you know.

[Blue]

Part of the charm of the character is he is this wise, old deity yet laughs at his own crappy jokes. I'm saying that FUNimation's version is unfaithful to that.

Yup, you can't take him seriously at all with that Cartman/Droopy voice.

[penguintruth]

Giving him a wacky voice makes his voice the joke more than his behavior. It dillutes the humor of the character and misses the point that, other than being a little eccentric, he's still a sagely old god.

It's just another role Sean Schemmel wields like a croquet mallet. But some blame also has to go to Sabat for continuing to keep him in the role.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Giving him a wacky voice makes his voice the joke more than his behavior. It dillutes the humor of the character and misses the point that, other than being a little eccentric, he's still a sagely old god.

So? Just because he's a god, does that mean he has to have a stereotypical deep voice? Part of his charm in the dub is that you wouldn't except a god to have such a goofy voice.

[ohaimynameiserik]

As inaccurate as Kaio's voice is, I feel like they're making the best of it. You're definitely not getting the same effect, but he makes me chuckle. I can deal with it.

Inaccurate to what? He's a blue catfish-like creature who likes to tell jokes and goof around. His dub voice suits both his personality and his appearance. Yes, it's nothing like his Japanese voice, but that doesn't mean it's wrong for the character.

Inaccurate to the tone of his Japanese voice, you snarky ass.

I think I'm in love with Kendamu.

But I do agree that his Schemmel's voice and performance are way off for being one who is an all-knowing deity, it's pretty funny and quite entertaining. I personally think Japanese Kaio isn't funny enough, anyway. Though that's probably just due to things being lost in translation from subtitles and all that.

[penguintruth]

So? Just because he's a god, does that mean he has to have a stereotypical deep voice? Part of his charm in the dub is that you wouldn't except a god to have such a goofy voice.

And just because he's a wacky joke-teller doesn't mean he should have to sound like one, either, especially when it dillutes the humor of the joke of him being that way.

[batistabus]

Giving him a wacky voice makes his voice the joke more than his behavior. It dillutes the humor of the character and misses the point that, other than being a little eccentric, he's still a sagely old god.

So? Just because he's a god, does that mean he has to have a stereotypical deep voice? Part of his charm in the dub is that you wouldn't except a god to have such a goofy voice.

I can see that, but it eliminates the shock. You hear an old guy, you know he's legendary, and you expect him to be wise or whatever. And then he acts the way he does. For the dub, there's no mistaking he's wacky and he has no depth.

The dub voice prevents him from being taken seriously. Kaio is intended to be both funny and sagely.