"DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

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Re: "DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

Post by Metalwario64 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:45 pm

batistabus wrote:You hear an old guy, you know he's legendary, and you expect him to be wise or whatever.
Yeah, until you see him 2 seconds later. :lol:
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Post by Kendamu » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:46 pm

[quote="ohaimynameiserik" :lol: :lol: :lol: I think I'm in love with Kendamu.

But I do agree that his Schemmel's voice and performance are way off for being one who is an all-knowing deity, it's pretty funny and quite entertaining. I personally think Japanese Kaio isn't funny enough, anyway. Though that's probably just due to things being lost in translation from subtitles and all that.[/quote]

I mean it, though. An example would be... Freeza. His new voice does not mirror his Japanese voice. However, the tone is extremely similar in both. Kaio has such a wild and crazy voice that you can't really get the same tone as the original.

I'm pretty much over it now, but if I had my choice I'd have the current narrator play as Kaio.
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Re: "DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

Post by batistabus » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:47 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
batistabus wrote:You hear an old guy, you know he's legendary, and you expect him to be wise or whatever.
Yeah, until you see him 2 seconds later. :lol:
XD well it's a chain of shocks. His status, then his appearance, then his voice, and then what he says.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:51 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:So? Just because he's a god, does that mean he has to have a stereotypical deep voice? Part of his charm in the dub is that you wouldn't except a god to have such a goofy voice.
I would be inclined to agree with your sentiment except that there's nothing "charming" about Schemmel's portrayal. It's painful to listen to. And I'm fairly open. His Ocean voice didn't bother me all that much, even though it's in the exact same vein (well, obviously, since Schemmel's just imitating it).
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:51 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
batistabus wrote:You hear an old guy, you know he's legendary, and you expect him to be wise or whatever.
Yeah, until you see him 2 seconds later. :lol:
Yeah, lol.



To whoever is saying that Schemmel's Kaiō voice doesn't fit the character, you don't know the character in the first place. :P

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Re: "DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

Post by Kendamu » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:53 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Metalwario64 wrote:
batistabus wrote:You hear an old guy, you know he's legendary, and you expect him to be wise or whatever.
Yeah, until you see him 2 seconds later. :lol:
Yeah, lol.



To whoever is saying that Schemmel's Kaiō voice doesn't fit the character, you don't know the character in the first place. :P
Are you kidding? I own the manga twice over and I've been watching the show since the '90s and I don't know the character?

You're a funny guy. :lol:

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Post by Blue » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:54 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:So? Just because he's a god, does that mean he has to have a stereotypical deep voice? Part of his charm in the dub is that you wouldn't except a god to have such a goofy voice.
I would be inclined to agree with your sentiment except that there's nothing "charming" about Schemmel's portrayal. It's painful to listen to. And I'm fairly open. His Ocean voice didn't bother me all that much, even though it's in the exact same vein (well, obviously, since Schemmel's just imitating it).
It's that "I have 100 giant sandwiches in my mouth while talking" effect Sean added to it. Now he slurs and gurgles and it's a pretty awful event even with the minor tweaks he's made in Kai.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:55 pm

Yeah, I feel I pretty well know the character too, but even if I didn't, a voice that makes me want to solder my eardrums shut at how annoying it is probably isn't a good fit for any character.
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Post by penguintruth » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:56 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:To whoever is saying that Schemmel's Kaiō voice doesn't fit the character, you don't know the character in the first place. :P
I see what you did there. Touche, good sir.

But, no. No. Schemmel's is nothing but a characture.
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Post by Blue » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:56 pm

Yet I'd still take Kaio's voice over Recoome's any day.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:57 pm

Kendamu wrote:You're a funny guy. :lol:
That's why his nickname among his friends is "Fungi". :wink:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:To whoever is saying that Schemmel's Kaiō voice doesn't fit the character, you don't know the character in the first place.
To be fair, I feel it could go both ways. I don't have any real problems with Schemmel's portrayal, but I could understand why people would want a voice that is closer to the original, as it is quite different, whether or not it fits.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:57 pm

Hmm... Rikuum is pretty annoying too, but I'd still say Kaio's twice as bad on the Painfully Annoying Scale (TM).
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Post by batistabus » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:57 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:So? Just because he's a god, does that mean he has to have a stereotypical deep voice? Part of his charm in the dub is that you wouldn't except a god to have such a goofy voice.
I would be inclined to agree with your sentiment except that there's nothing "charming" about Schemmel's portrayal. It's painful to listen to. And I'm fairly open. His Ocean voice didn't bother me all that much, even though it's in the exact same vein (well, obviously, since Schemmel's just imitating it).
At first I had no idea why you thought this, but I just watched a clip of the Ocean Dub. While the voice is quite similar, the performance is quite different. FUNi's is more like "Hey guys I'm the King Kai I'm funny!" while Ocean's has more subtlety to it.

Still, I prefer to go one way than to sit the fence.

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:59 pm

Blue wrote:Yet I'd still take Kaio's voice over Recoome's any day.
Agreed. That's just going over the top.

Kendamu wrote: Are you kidding? I own the manga twice over and I've been watching the show since the '90s and I don't know the character?
Then you'd know that he is a funny person who likes to make jokes and goof around.



P.S. Don't get me wrong guys, I also like his Japanese voice. It's just that I'm tired of all this dub Kaiō bashing, when I don't see anything wrong with his voice.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:00 am

RE: batistabus

I prefer the Ocean voice because, while it's still goofy-sounding, at least he still sounds intelligent (ie. he's still playing the same character). Schemmel does the goofy while making him sound mentally handicapped at all times (ie. not the character).
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Post by UristtheGreat » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:01 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Metalwario64 wrote:
batistabus wrote:You hear an old guy, you know he's legendary, and you expect him to be wise or whatever.
Yeah, until you see him 2 seconds later. :lol:
Yeah, lol.



To whoever is saying that Schemmel's Kaiō voice doesn't fit the character, you don't know the character in the first place. :P
Just like we didn't know GT?
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Post by Blue » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:03 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote: Then you'd know that he is a funny person who likes to make jokes and goof around.
Yes but it doesn't have to be so incredibly ham handed as to give him this awful gurgling slur filled mess of a voice. This point can be given without needing a voice like that.
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Post by batistabus » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:03 am

Gaffer Tape wrote:RE: batistabus

I prefer the Ocean voice because, while it's still goofy-sounding, at least he still sounds intelligent (ie. he's still playing the same character). Schemmel does the goofy while making him sound mentally handicapped at all times (ie. not the character).
Yeah, I completely get what you're saying. It just doesn't work as well for me. While Schemmel's is definitely out of character, I find it funny. The Ocean version is trying to pull off both and only comes off alright in both cases to me.

It's just a matter of preference I guess.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:03 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:P.S. Don't get me wrong guys, I also like his Japanese voice. It's just that I'm tired of all this dub Kaiō bashing, when I don't see anything wrong with his voice.
Well, you don't see anything wrong. See my above comments about "painful to listen to," "sounds mentally handicapped," "doesn't appropriately portray the character." I swear I'm not just saying these things to annoy you. :D
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Post by B » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:05 am

Schemmel's portrayal of Kaiou is too goofy, in my honest opinion. And that's just the acting; we've already established the voice is a blubbering fat man eating another fat man.

Schemmel's playing Roshi when he should be playing Kaiou.
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