"DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

[MR.Mark]

Vegeta's yelling was ok, though I still prefer the season 2 "YOU WON'T ESCAPE MY WRATH!" Personally liked that more than Kai's, Funi's or the original Japanese.

There is a good chance Vegeta probably says something along the lines of kill or die, for the uncut Kai dub. So I'd expect Sabat would save his lung power for a more intense performance.

[mystic trunks]

Today's ep was ok aside from censoring. (Yeah, CN's was better). But Vegeta's yelling was ok, though I still prefer the season 2 "YOU WON'T ESCAPE MY WRATH!" Personally liked that more than Kai's, Funi's or the original Japanese.

I was eagerly anticipating how they would handle that scene... I still like Ocean's version better. But I will hold out and see how it is on the Uncut DVD. It wasn't bad though.

[batistabus]

Today's ep was ok aside from censoring. (Yeah, CN's was better). But Vegeta's yelling was ok, though I still prefer the season 2 "YOU WON'T ESCAPE MY WRATH!" Personally liked that more than Kai's, Funi's or the original Japanese.

I've always thought that scene was completely overrated.

[Metalwario64]

Today's ep was ok aside from censoring. (Yeah, CN's was better). But Vegeta's yelling was ok, though I still prefer the season 2 "YOU WON'T ESCAPE MY WRATH!" Personally liked that more than Kai's, Funi's or the original Japanese.

I've always thought that scene was completely overrated.

"IIIIIIIIIIII'LL GETYoooooOOOOOOOOOUUU!!!!!?"

Yeah, I agree. He could yell decently (it was helped by strong echoes though), but it was severely offset by the terrible delivery...

[mystic trunks]

Today's ep was ok aside from censoring. (Yeah, CN's was better). But Vegeta's yelling was ok, though I still prefer the season 2 "YOU WON'T ESCAPE MY WRATH!" Personally liked that more than Kai's, Funi's or the original Japanese.

I've always thought that scene was completely overrated.

I didn't know it was highly rated... In any case, it's a cool scene.

[linkdude20002001]

Ehhh, I felt a lot of the VAs were underperforming in this episode. And, of course, I thought Sean Schemmel was too harsh and gravelly, and sounded too much like how he used to.

I felt this from Freeza, Vegeta, Kulilin, and Bulma, but Gohan was quite good this episode. None of them were particularly bad, though. Just not as awesome as the previous episodes.

[ohaimynameiserik]

Today's ep was ok aside from censoring. (Yeah, CN's was better). But Vegeta's yelling was ok, though I still prefer the season 2 "YOU WON'T ESCAPE MY WRATH!" Personally liked that more than Kai's, Funi's or the original Japanese.

I've always thought that scene was completely overrated.

Everything about Brian Drummond as Vegeta is overrated... just sayin'.

[Kendamu]

Today's ep was ok aside from censoring. (Yeah, CN's was better). But Vegeta's yelling was ok, though I still prefer the season 2 "YOU WON'T ESCAPE MY WRATH!" Personally liked that more than Kai's, Funi's or the original Japanese.

I've always thought that scene was completely overrated.

Everything about Brian Drummond as Vegeta is overrated... just sayin'.

Yeah, Brian Drummond is overrated the same way The Dark Knight is overrated.

See what I did there?

[.:PoetikaL:.]

I haven't seen the show in about a week and half to two weeks... so if someone could fill me in on the voices actors performances, that would be great.

I already heard Zarbon's and Freeza's voices... and I enjoyed them a lot from seeing clips of ep. 20 and 21.

[Big Momma]

Yeah, Brian Drummond is overrated the same way The Dark Knight is overrated.

See what I did there?

I actually think "The Dark Knight" was overrated. I mean...it wasn't a bad movie, but the Joker (And Maggie Gyllenhaal <3) was the best thing about it (And I'm not saying that because of Heath Ledger). The rest of the movie was just...meh.


Uh...anyway, back to the topic >.>

From what I remember, Drummond was quite the sinister Vegeta.

[The Time Traveller]

Drummond definitely has one of the most sinister voices I've ever heard, I wouldn't call him overrated, after all, it seems more people prefer Sabat as Vegeta.

They're both interesting versions to me, in one he sounds as bad and evil as possible, in the other he's just as bad and evil but adds a subtle "making up for being so short" performance, like he's trying to sound deep and it's not natual, and the "it's over 8000!!!" in Kai makes me thing he broke his badass character/voice for a second. It would have been cool to hear that softer voice all throughout the series...

[RazorX]

Brian Drummond's "You won't escape my wrath" is legendary. There was so much emotion, intensity, anger and psychotic rage in Brian's voice. The Ocean dub of that scene blows both Japanese and Funimation versions out of the water.

As for Sabat, he was terrible in the wrath scene in Funi's 2005 redub but he's not bad in Kai, he really improved his acting for that scene. Still, he wasn't anywhere near Brian's intensity and I didn't expect him to be.

it seems more people prefer Sabat as Vegeta.

To me it seems that there's a unanimous agreement that Drummond is better as Vegeta than Sabat.

[Mewzard]

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A very nostalgia-filled view. While the voice did work at the time it was used, when he was a murderous villain, it's not exactly a versatile voice, and doesn't work with the later Vegeta, who maybe an asshole, but was working out of the evil area, and towards the hero/anti-hero route. To me, it always sounded a bit like it should have been a voice used in the old campy Superfriends series (which is hilariously awesome at times).

Some people have mentioned (even Mike) that Sabat's Vegeta voice sounds more a character voice than natural, but I saw that to be the case far more with Drummond's Vegeta. The only places that voice would be natural is in Hell and Cartoons. I liked it during the period it was used, and when I was younger, but overall, it wasn't something that worked as the character grew.

And the Wrath scene is intense with Drummond, that is true (then again, I'm reluctant to gauge childhood memory of a demonic voice screaming about hunting down a child to something I heard now). I do believe the original dubbing of it, though (like most of the old dub) is somewhat inaccurate to the original script. Does anyone know how it went, translated from Japanese?

[Gozar]

To me it seems that there's a unanimous agreement that Drummond is better as Vegeta than Sabat.

Where? On YouTube Videos posted by Ocean Dub fans? =P

Seriously, I liked Drummond's Vegeta to an extent. But it sounded waaaay too young. The voice just sounded too sinister for a character that loses that part of him as time goes on.

[Kendamu]

To me it seems that there's a unanimous agreement that Drummond is better as Vegeta than Sabat.

Where? On YouTube Videos posted by Ocean Dub fans? =P

Seriously, I liked Drummond's Vegeta to an extent. But it sounded waaaay too young. The voice just sounded too sinister for a character that loses that part of him as time goes on.

While Drummond, in the overseas Ocean Dub continuation, did keep his general "sinister" voice from the beginning of the series all the way to the end, he has quite the vocal range. If someone better were directing the show, he could've easily made his voice change in subtle ways character's personality without losing the essence of the voice itself.

Of course, that never happened and all we can do is speculate. Also, Horikawa wins overall. So there! [/JPN ver. snobbery]

[Super Sonic]

While I like both, I still think Drummond's Vegeta during seasons 1 and 2 had one of those really memorable villain voices that stick out like Skeletor, Cobra Commander and others who you instantly recognize at hearing offscreen. Makes me wonder what it would've been like had he been able to get away with more like Sabat was. (Drummond couldn't outright say he could kill people). Still Sabat made him sound calm, yet evil at least during season 1 redub.

[Kendamu]

While I like both, I still think Drummond's Vegeta during seasons 1 and 2 had one of those really memorable villain voices that stick out like Skeletor, Cobra Commander and others who you instantly recognize at hearing offscreen. Makes me wonder what it would've been like had he been able to get away with more like Sabat was. (Drummond couldn't outright say he could kill people). Still Sabat made him sound calm, yet evil at least during season 1 redub.

Well, Sabat did good in those regards. Vegeta in general was a very cool, calm, confident guy with a smooth voice until Goku angered him by actually making him bleed.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Where? On YouTube Videos posted by Ocean Dub fans? =P

Exactomundo. Myself and Gozar prefer Sabat's Vegeta to Drummond's Vegeta, so it can possibly be unanimous. Most of the time I really can't take Drummond's Vegeta seriously because of all the corny lines he has to say (the "my wrath" line included).

[MR.Mark]

While I like both, I still think Drummond's Vegeta during seasons 1 and 2 had one of those really memorable villain voices that stick out .

What mainly sticks out for me with Drummond, particularly from the namek arc, was his acting. I never actually liked the voice he put on while playing Vegeta, but damn did his acting almost make up for it. Sabat wishes he has Brian's charisma, but at the same time I'm not being biased. I do love the ocean actors due to them being genuinely good actors in many other anime dubs and cartoons. However they simply did not bring there A-game to that horrid rush job that was that other DBZ dub.

During the namek arc however, Drummond most certainly did bring his A-game, with rage and intensity that did rival Horikawa's performance. I still stand behind that if Brian had the many chances Sabat has had to refine his Vegeta, and was dubbing Kai using something more close to his Zechs' voice. Particularly his "early Zechs voice", before it got a little too bassy, he'd be an amazing English Vegeta.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

What mainly sticks out for me with Drummond, particularly from the namek arc, was his acting. I never actually liked the voice he put on while playing Vegeta, but damn did his acting almost make up for it. Sabat wishes he has Brian's charisma, but at the same time I'm not being biased. I do love the ocean actors due to them being genuinely good actors in many other anime dubs and cartoons. However they simply did not bring there A-game to that horrid rush job that was that other DBZ dub.

Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I love Ocean Studios and their actors. They make really good dubs, but sadly, DBZ isn't one of them.