"DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

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Post by VegettoEX » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:13 pm

If you folks want to be sarcastic and unhelpful in your posts, I have no problem just deleting them and moving on with the thread.
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Post by Mewzard » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:14 pm

I don't think Linda Young's acting sucks. Maybe it's because I've recent re-watched the entire 112 episode run of Yu Yu Hakusho dubbed (she voiced Yusuke's master, the psychic Genkai), but I find that, yes, she can act, and act pretty well. One roll doesn't define an actor. Even the best actors can have a bad performance.

Though, that said, I do like the new voice. I am disappointed that we never got to hear how she would have taken the role, but I am happy with the selection.

I'm happy with almost all of the voice work and actors thus far. This with the improved script and voice direction has done wonders for the dub.

I admit, some stuff-like Jheese and Reacum's voices, do catch me a bit surprised. But, I'm less bothered by it in the Ginyu Force-They're supposed to be goofy parodies of Super Sentai, so I expect some of the odd bits from them.
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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:29 pm

Y'see, I often see people point out Young's Genkai as an example of good acting, but I never liked that voice, either. (I also recently re-watched the entire dubbed Yu Yu Hakusho series.)
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Post by Kendamu » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:52 pm

Mewzard wrote:I don't think Linda Young's acting sucks. Maybe it's because I've recent re-watched the entire 112 episode run of Yu Yu Hakusho dubbed (she voiced Yusuke's master, the psychic Genkai), but I find that, yes, she can act, and act pretty well. One roll doesn't define an actor. Even the best actors can have a bad performance.
I don't hate Linda Young, either. I've heard her in some of her other roles. She just doesn't do it for me as Freeza. That's as simple as it gets.

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Post by B » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:36 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Excuse me but, how did you take what I said about dub voices compared to original voices and turn it into me prasing Linda Young's Freeza? I wasn't referring to any specific dub voice. Jeez, talk about oversensitivity.


BTW, whether Linda Young can act/fits the character of Freeza is entirely subjective. You and I may not like her voice, but there are some people who do. There is a Dragon Ball fanbase outside the Daizex forums, you know. Refer to what I said before in my that post you quoted.
I was using an example, as that description(Just because a dub voice for a character sounds nothing like the same character's Japanese voice, doesn't make the voice bad or unfitting. A lot of Dragon Ball fans fail to grasp this concept.) is classic pro-Young!Freeza argument. That wasn't "oversensitivity." Why don't you read what people write instead of throwing out (incorrect)accusations?
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Post by Ashy-kun » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:11 pm

I'm starting to wish I hadn't opened my big mouth now. I think I've inadvertently caused an argument, by saying something that got misinterpreted or used out of context.
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:51 am

B wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Excuse me but, how did you take what I said about dub voices compared to original voices and turn it into me prasing Linda Young's Freeza? I wasn't referring to any specific dub voice. Jeez, talk about oversensitivity.


BTW, whether Linda Young can act/fits the character of Freeza is entirely subjective. You and I may not like her voice, but there are some people who do. There is a Dragon Ball fanbase outside the Daizex forums, you know. Refer to what I said before in my that post you quoted.
I was using an example, as that description(Just because a dub voice for a character sounds nothing like the same character's Japanese voice, doesn't make the voice bad or unfitting. A lot of Dragon Ball fans fail to grasp this concept.) is classic pro-Young!Freeza argument. That wasn't "oversensitivity." Why don't you read what people write instead of throwing out (incorrect)accusations?
Really? Do a lot of people say that when defending Linda Young's Freeza voice? Either way, I think what I said also applies to her Freeza voice. Linda Young's Freeza voice sounds nothing like the character's original voice, that's a fact. However, it is a different interpretation of the character. Just because you, I and all of the Daizex forum users dislike her voice for the character, doesn't make it objectively bad. As I said before, Daizex isn't the only DB fan community on the internet. Believe it or not, there are people out there who actually like her voice for the character.


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So, are you calling me nuts? Because I'm personally part of a number of DB fanbases outside the Daizex forums.



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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:24 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:P.S. The people at DB Wikia aren't nuts, they just don't know how to run a good site.


Insanity =/= poor website mangament skills.
Delusion is one step along the way to insanity.
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Post by Kendamu » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:47 pm

Ashy-kun wrote:I'm starting to wish I hadn't opened my big mouth now. I think I've inadvertently caused an argument, by saying something that got misinterpreted or used out of context.
Don't beat yourself up over it. Someone would've found a reason to argue even if you hadn't said anything. :lol:

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Post by penguintruth » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:26 pm

Very disappointed in the voice of Recoome. It's still DERPADERP.

The Recoome stuff is some of my favorite material, too. Sabat ruins it.
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Post by El Diabeetus » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:32 pm

penguintruth wrote:Very disappointed in the voice of Recoome. It's still DERPADERP.

The Recoome stuff is some of my favorite material, too. Sabat ruins it.
Yeah, was a bit distracting. Oh well, only 1 more episode.

Although Freeza, Chris really pulled him off in this episode. Especially, when he yelled!

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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:38 pm

I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I think that Sabat's Recoome has gotten much better since Z sure it's not the best voice Sabat has done, but still it's not the worst English Anime voice I've heard that "honor" goes to Sarah Natochenny's Ash from the current Pokemon dub. There were some scenes where he sounded Derpdaderp in Kai, but it wasn't as earbleeding as it was in Z, and besides have we forgotten Sabat's Recoome from Z if so here's a reference in fact it's the same fight as tonight's Kai episode was. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpIUSaS0bb4
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Post by Metalwario64 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:41 pm

penguintruth wrote:Very disappointed in the voice of Recoome. It's still DERPADERP.

The Recoome stuff is some of my favorite material, too. Sabat ruins it.
I thought it was toned down quite a bit, with more "muscular meat-head" tossed in. I definitely still hated how he constantly laughs like "huhuhuhaheheheheheeeehhheeh!" after he says anything though... If they had gotten rid of that, I would have no real complaints, but as it is, it sometimes gets annoying...

Also, yay, next episode covers some FUNimation Z season three content! Cannot wait to hear that material finally getting a competent dub! :lol:
DB_Fan1991 wrote:I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I think that Sabat's Recoome has gotten much better since Z sure it's not the best voice Sabat has done, but still it's not the worst English Anime voice I've heard that "honor" goes to Sarah Natochenny's Ash from the current Pokemon dub. There were some scenes where he sounded Derpdaderp in Kai, but it wasn't as earbleeding as it was in Z, and besides have we forgotten Sabat's Recoome from Z if so here's a reference in fact it's the same fight as tonight's Kai episode was. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpIUSaS0bb4
Wow... that is a vast difference! :shock: His Kai performance is definitely toned down, into more of an Arnold Schwarzenegger impression, as opposed to that, which really is outright "retarded"... In fact, in Kai, I heard some of Sabat's actual voice slip through a bit at times, whereas before the "retardation" was too thick, and I could hardly make out any of Sabat's real voice through it...

But also, offtopic, why the hell does everyone and their mothers on YouTube upload clips of fucking Dragon Ball and the Nathan Johnson scored seasons one and two of Z with poorly placed, incorrectly used, and poorly mixed Faulconer music?
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Post by penguintruth » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:46 pm

A punch in the face is less painful than a kick in the crotch, but it's still painful.

Sabat's Recoome is still fucking terrible and embarrassing. Next to Schemmel's Kai, it's the worst voice in the whole dub.
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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:56 pm

penguintruth wrote:A punch in the face is less painful than a kick in the crotch, but it's still painful.

Sabat's Recoome is still fucking terrible and embarrassing. Next to Schemmel's Kai, it's the worst voice in the whole dub.
I'll admit that Recoome is not my favorite voice in the dub at all, same with Kaio. Honestly with Recoome I had hoped Sabat would have used his voice for Armstrong on him as for Kaio I wish that they would have used Doc Morgan for him since many say that the narrator for all 3 series could possibly be Kaio. Yes even as a dub fan I'll admit when certain voices are bad for the most part that is. I should make a Youtube video with Sabat's Armstrong on Recoome and see how that works out.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:02 pm

Recoome seems to have the same voice, just performed differently. Which is good enough.
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Post by batistabus » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:08 pm

The more the Ginyu Force members speak, the less I like all of them.
The only one I really like is Guldo.

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Post by KaiserNeko » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:35 pm

batistabus wrote:The more the Ginyu Force members speak, the less I like all of them.
The only one I really like is Guldo.
Well, I think Burter is fine and so is Ginyu, for the most part. There's nothing really wrong with either of their voices, though I could have gone with Troy Baker or someone more along the lines of Richard Newman.
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Post by Scarz » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:37 pm

My cousin absolutely loves the Ginyu Force. He said they're like "stupid power rangers that dances a lot." His words. But most importantly he loves Reccome's voice. I enjoyed watching my cousin laugh at his lines even those that weren't meant to be funny. I don't get why people here dislike Sabat's Reccome so much. If the kids like it I have no problem with the voice acting at all.

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Post by MR.Mark » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:48 pm

Some of Sabat's "labored screams" were coming through in this episode, which is disappointing since he seemed to come so far in that category. It was most noticeable when Vegeta unleashed that huge Ki blast after throwing Reecome in the mountain. Sabat make Vegeta sound like he's in pain, it's just odd to me. Seems that's one thing Sean has the edge on, pure lung power behind his screams.

Freeza continues to sound amazing, so many textures and variations to his laughs, let alone his voice. Props should also go to Sean, as his Nail is a very good stoic warrior voice perfectly suited to the character. It's so completely different from his voice for Son Goku that I'm indeed impressed, I can barley recognize him. I certainly can't say the same for many of Sabat's character voices.
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