"DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

[Kendamu]

A job's a job. They still would've probably paid him more than he got paid doing bit roles in TMNT.

Wouldn't this have been around the time he was actually playing a major villain on TMNT though? He was probably doing okay, plus the constant stream of DBZ games.

Looking at which characters he did play, it doesn't look like any of them were major mainstays until 2006 and onward.

[Cipher]

Looking at which characters he did play, it doesn't look like any of them were major mainstays until 2006 and onward.

I thought he would have been voicing Sh'Okanabo (and others) around the time the re-recordings were going on.

[Kendamu]

Looking at which characters he did play, it doesn't look like any of them were major mainstays until 2006 and onward.

I thought he would have been voicing Sh'Okanabo (and others) around the time the re-recordings were going on.

Sh'Okanabo didn't appear until Fast Forward, right? That was the '06-'07 Season. I didn't watch too much Fast Forward so I don't know how often he showed up. The schedules may have overlapped. Like I said, it was all rumor as far as I know.

[Mewzard]

Looking at which characters he did play, it doesn't look like any of them were major mainstays until 2006 and onward.

I thought he would have been voicing Sh'Okanabo (and others) around the time the re-recordings were going on.

Sh'Okanabo didn't appear until Fast Forward, right? That was the '06-'07 Season. I didn't watch too much Fast Forward so I don't know how often he showed up. The schedules may have overlapped. Like I said, it was all rumor as far as I know.

I heard he skipped on it as a reminder of how he's improved in VAing, but yeah, mostly rumors.

[TRIZACK]

Wow, we are in season 3 material now. Is it just me or it very wierd hearing Schemmel's current voice in the few season 3 scenes that were in the episode?

[G1Ravage]

Ahhh...it's so good to have an accurate dub script now. Jheese and Butta's nicknames finally came through!! These early season three episodes I've watched subtitled more than any other episodes, as these were the first DVD's I ever bought. Goku and Butta's conversations came through great.

R. Bruce Elliot is definitely the best Ginyu since Richard Newman. He sounds a LOT like Newman at times.

[TRIZACK]

Yes Season 3 and 4 are the parts I look forward to the most.

[Metalwario64]

Wow, we are in season 3 material now. Is it just me or it very wierd hearing Schemmel's current voice in the few season 3 scenes that were in the episode?

Yes, the "Season Three" dub/acting/dialogue/voices are ingrained deeply within my mind, so hearing this accurate, well acted version is weird, though I really look forward to more, because I want to get the old Season Three dub out of my mind!

[penguintruth]

I think Vic Mignogna's Baata is pretty god, actually, and the new Ginyu is growing on me. So, along with the excellent Gurd, that's at least three out of four voices in the Ginyu Force that I enjoy. Recoome's voice is awful and I can't say I like Jees, either.

Sean Schemmel's definitely letting his Goku flow a bit more naturally now, which is good. It's still not Goku, and probably never will be, but at least it doesn't sound like Schemmel is forcing himself. It makes it more tolerable to listen to. He's just very much wrong for the character.

I think the Ginyu stuff goes by a little too fast in Kai.

[MR.Mark]

Sean's Goku is about equal with Sabat's Vegeta as far as I'm concerned, both are uneven. Though I'll give Sean props on his voice for Goku sounding much less like a character voice. Though I think Sabat has the edge in his acting ability.

[Kirbopher]

I think there's a difference between "wrong" and "different" in this case. I'll admit, a few of the characters' voices are not exactly the way they were portrayed in the original, but they're done in a way that is cohesive to the overall story and I don't find any of them off-putting. I mean really you could even go back to the characters like Goku and Krillin who aren't played by women in our version, technically that's "wrong" but they still feel like characters that work within the confines of the story being told. Recoome I think definitely could've gone to a different actor, my guess was it was simply due to time restraints, but that was Chris' best rendition of the character to date; felt more like a brutish frat-boy as opposed to...y'know, what we used to have.

[linkdude20002001]

ReaCoom sounds like a football player that got hit too hard one too many times. :/

[penguintruth]

I mean really you could even go back to the characters like Goku and Krillin who aren't played by women in our version, technically that's "wrong" but they still feel like characters that work within the confines of the story being told.

Kuririn works. Goku doesn't.

[Sketch]

I mean really you could even go back to the characters like Goku and Krillin who aren't played by women in our version, technically that's "wrong" but they still feel like characters that work within the confines of the story being told.

Kuririn works. Goku doesn't.

Care to explain your reasoning? I've never been a big fan of Schemmel's Goku and it's nothing like Nozawa's but I do believe he has been doing an excellent job in the Kai dub playing the character intended naturally and it doesn't hurt that he's got the capacity for the screams. And to spin it another way, why does Kuririn work while Goku does not?

Episodes 30 and 31 were pretty enjoyable.

Sabat's Reacoom is better but I really wish he'd given that role up. I feel like Sabat has not "learned" from the previous "mistakes" nearly as much as he lead people to believe. Then again I think people were expecting more than they should have from Sabat taking the reigns on the direction. He's had plenty of chances over the years to "correct" past "mistakes" and did not do so. Why would now be so different? Props to him for "fixing" a few things but I think it's all coming down to his bias more than anything else and not surprisingly a lot of his bias sides with the dub he started his career with. That doesn't give him a free pass though. Sabat's got some 'splain'n to do.

One thing I noticed in 31 was Jheese seems to have lost his accent. Maybe that was intentional but somehow I doubt that. This is not a bad thing but it is very inconsistent. Perhaps it's a sign that the uncut dub will be accent-less or maybe that's expecting too much. Regardless, it's a bit odd.

It's so great to see these episodes with accurate dialogue that's appropriate for the characters. No more Goku asking if they're going to dance or fight and other nonsense. Really looking forward to seeing these uncut on DVD eventually but the censorship isn't ruining the experience for me at this point and hopefully that'll be the case in the more violent episodes to come.

[penguintruth]

Care to explain your reasoning? I've never been a big fan of Schemmel's Goku and it's nothing like Nozawa's but I do believe he has been doing an excellent job in the Kai dub playing the character intended naturally and it doesn't hurt that he's got the capacity for the screams. And to spin it another way, why does Kuririn work while Goku does not?

I'm very happy to explain my reasoning.

Kuririn's English voice works, and Strait's performance works as well, because he really just plays him as a sort of regular guy who seems saddled with being less than great, and knowing so. He just has a he sort of "regular guy" voice with a twinge of "loser mentality", but nothing too over-the-top, like the way Klassen could be at times.

Schemmel's Goku sounds natural now in the sense that Schemmel isn't forcing himself into any particular type of character voice, but he's just not playing Goku. I can think of the voice he's using as a good voice in itself, but it just isn't right for Goku.

Fortunately, between Schemmel's improving natural delivery and the better script, it's become more tolerable to experience his Goku, but it just isn't Goku to me.

[Cableguy15]

Why do they insist on trying to make Reacoom sound like an overdone idiot? I feel like I'm watching a Looney Tune's skit when I listen to his voice. I think it's okay to give him that playful tone which I was glad to hear, but otherwise I couldn't stand listening to him. I also disliked Jeice's voice at first, but I don't mind it as much now. Ginyu is being voiced by the guy who does Richard for Case Closed so I automatically like it.

Oh, and I noticed that we may have been given a very, very brief preview to Freeza's "Battle cry" and it sounded a lot like Naoko's to me. It's just after Freeza wishes for immortality. It might just be a coincidence, but I hope not.

Sabat's Vegeta continues to be inconsistent to my ears. Sometimes I think he's doing a good job, others I wonder why he sounds so devoid of emotion with that damned gruff voice.

I'm also still liking Schemmel's performance a lot. I think what was holding him back before were the generic hero lines he was given because now that I look at it, his actual voice and delivery haven't necessarily changed a lot. I noticed an extra dose of intensity when he faced Vegeta, but otherwise a similar performance, just with better lines.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

I really haven't heard a big improvement in Sabat's and Schemmel's performances as Gokū and Vegeta from the more later video games, like Tenkaichi 3 and Raging Blast. Maybe it's the accurate script? Or maybe it's the fact that few people play DBZ games here with the FUNimation cast? To each his own, I guess.

[Mewzard]

With the exception of Raging Blast, I've played most modern DBZ games from Budokai on (Including all of the Budokai Games, all of the Sparking Games, Burst Limit, etc)

The accurate script has helped, but I've also noticed changes in both Schemmel and Sabat's method behind the character. You can still tell they are said characters, same voices, but with somewhat different deliveries and some changes in pitch (especially in Goku at more lighthearted moments).

[Blue]

I agree, incredibly similar voices but much better delivery of their lines. I suspect it also has something to do with it being the actual anime as opposed to a 10 second game cut scene. They probably put more time and care into something that goes by an episode by episode basis.

[jjgp1112]

I really haven't heard a big improvement in Sabat's and Schemmel's performances as Gokū and Vegeta from the more later video games, like Tenkaichi 3 and Raging Blast. Maybe it's the accurate script? Or maybe it's the fact that few people play DBZ games here with the FUNimation cast? To each his own, I guess.

Shit, to me, the only voice I've actually seen an improvement in is Piccolo and possibly Vegeta. Other characters, like Goku, sound just as good to me as they sounded in the UUC episodes/movies and video games. The redubbed characters are hit-or-miss, because they're either really good (Zarbon, Jeice, Ginyu, Dende), inconsistent (Fr­ieza), or EPIC FAIL (Gohan and Bulma).