Why do you want Viz to release the Kanzenban?

[gotensottile]

It's pointless.
Compared to the series' they're doing now(SJ ones), the translation would still be the same as it is in the Vizbigs. No cursing, no color(except for some VIZBIGs, which still don't have them all), censorship, et cetera.
The only thing we'd get out of it is the alternate ending.

[jjgp1112]

Explain why it wouldn't have color pages, please.

[B]

I think it's pretty obvious when people say they want it, they mean as-is. I also think we're realistic enough to know it won't happen, so forgive me if I don't get this matter-of-fact topic. =/

[gotensottile]

Explain why it wouldn't have color pages, please.

Viz clearly has never put them in for regular graphic novels and only does some of them during their VIZBig runs.

And, for the post above, no. I clearly hear people say that they want the Kanzenban released by Viz.

[jjgp1112]

Explain why it wouldn't have color pages, please.

Viz clearly has never put them in for regular graphic novels and only does some of them during their VIZBig runs.

And, for the post above, no. I clearly hear people say that they want the Kanzenban released by Viz.

They were black & white in the Japanese Graphic Novels, too. Pretty much every graphic novel for manga in existence has the color pages in black & white.

[gotensottile]

Explain why it wouldn't have color pages, please.

Viz clearly has never put them in for regular graphic novels and only does some of them during their VIZBig runs.

And, for the post above, no. I clearly hear people say that they want the Kanzenban released by Viz.

They were black & white in the Japanese Graphic Novels, too. Pretty much every graphic novel for manga in existence has the color pages in black & white.

The Kanzeban had the color chapters, though. It's the exception.

[Big Momma]

The Kanzeban had the color chapters, though. It's the exception.

Which is why it would be an exception for the VIZ release.


Also, a Kanzenban release would be another chance for the series to be released uncensored. (As unlikely as that may be)

[jjgp1112]

The Kanzeban had the color chapters, though. It's the exception.

Exactly, which is why Viz would also print them in color. I'm not following your logic.

[gotensottile]

If Viz had not printed all of them in the VizBibg editions, it's almost completely logical to say they still would still try some way to get around it.
And, would you buy the Kanzenban if that was all they had different from the VizBigs?

[jjgp1112]

If Viz had not printed all of them in the VizBibg editions, it's almost completely logical to say they still would still try some way to get around it.
And, would you buy the Kanzenban if that was all they had different from the VizBigs?

The VizBigs don't come from a pre-existing release in Japan. The reason why they don't have all of the color pages is simple as that: they don't have access to all of them. It's not like they're in their offices, twirling their evil mustaches saying, "BWAHAHAHAHA, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO GIVE THEM SOME OF THE COLOR PAGES INSTEAD OF ALL OF THEM BECAUSE WE ARE EVILLLLL!!"

You're really misinformed, here.

[Bussani]

And, for the post above, no. I clearly hear people say that they want the Kanzenban released by Viz.

That's the point. They want the Kanzenban as they are, but released by Viz in English. As they are means no visual edits and no missing color pages. And yes, it's unlikely, but people are allowed to dream, aren't they?

And, would you buy the Kanzenban if that was all they had different from the VizBigs?

I would, but I don't own the VizBigs.

[gotensottile]

If Viz had not printed all of them in the VizBibg editions, it's almost completely logical to say they still would still try some way to get around it.
And, would you buy the Kanzenban if that was all they had different from the VizBigs?

The VizBigs don't come from a pre-existing release in Japan. The reason why they don't have all of the color pages is simple as that: they don't have access to all of them. It's not like they're in their offices, twirling their evil mustaches saying, "BWAHAHAHAHA, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO GIVE THEM SOME OF THE COLOR PAGES INSTEAD OF ALL OF THEM BECAUSE WE ARE EVILLLLL!!"

You're really misinformed, here.

Why would they only have some and not all...?

[Big Momma]

Unless they do release the Kanzenban uncensored, I'd only be buying it for the Z-portion of the story, as I'm quite content with my Pre-Z VIZbigs.

[Kaboom]

I would want Kanzenban releases provided they'd be uncensored and have ALL the color pages.

[linkdude20002001]

I'd only get a Viz release of the kanzenban if they re-translated it. I seriously don't like the inconsistency of their current translation. I mean, Chichi's a hick for one chapter, and Piccolo is Shakespearean and then he's not.

Why would they only have some and not all...?

Because they only have whatever Shueisha gave them. And the reason they have any at all is because they used to publish Dragon Ball in Shonen Jump.

[SonGokuGT]

I agree that it would be a pointless release because Viz would never right their wrongs.

If Viz did this they would have to:

-Redo the translation
-Keep speech patterns consistent
-Sell the series as "Dragonball" and not split it up
-Maintain the same quality as the Japanese release presentation-wise
-Pay for the rights to release the new edition

Do you really think Viz would go through all that trouble for a comic that's 26 years old when they can keep cranking out Naruto?
In summary, Dragonball is too old and out of the limelight and not worth the effort on their part to bring a new release.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

To quote myself from another thread:

We're not going to get the Kanzenbans, period. Viz hasn't released Kanzenbans for other popular Shōnen series like: Yū Yū Hakusho, Shaman King, Rurōni Kenshin, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Dr. Slump and Saint Seiya, so why is Dragon Ball any different? Just because we miraculously got the Dragon Boxes, doesn't mean that we're entitled to other Japan-only media like the Kanzenbans. The Dragon Boxes were a rare one-off thing.

That and the fact that a re-re release might not sell well. It might for the Anime, but the Manga is not as popular. Besides, even if Viz does release the Kanzenbans, they'll still be censored. You guys know Viz's stance on censorship.

[rereboy]

It's pointless.
Compared to the series' they're doing now(SJ ones), the translation would still be the same as it is in the Vizbigs. No cursing, no color(except for some VIZBIGs, which still don't have them all), censorship, et cetera.
The only thing we'd get out of it is the alternate ending.

Even without a new translation, a kanzenban edition almost surely would have all the color pages and no censorship.

That and the fact that a re-re release might not sell well. It might for the Anime, but the Manga is not as popular. Besides, even if Viz does release the Kanzenbans, they'll still be censored. You guys know Viz's stance on censorship.

If they released the Kanzenban, they would have to keep the color pages and remove the censorship in order to be able to sell it to the consumer. Otherwise it would be an almost pointless release compared to the Vizbigs.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

If they released the Kanzenban, they would have to keep the color pages and remove the censorship in order to be able to sell it to the consumer. Otherwise it would be an almost pointless release compared to the Vizbigs.

But it's Viz Media; they won't remove the censorship.



I couldn't give a fuck about the censorship and missing colour pages in the VizBigs. I'm happy with the releases and I'm going to buy them as they come out. You guys can all pray that Viz releases the Kanzenbans, but don't hold your breaths.

[rereboy]

But it's Viz Media; they won't remove the censorship.



I couldn't give a fuck about the censorship and missing colour pages in the VizBigs. I'm happy with the releases and I'm going to buy them as they come out. You guys can all pray that Viz releases the Kanzenbans, but don't hold your breaths.

I`m also happy with the Vizbigs. So happy in fact that I think that a Kanzenban release wouldn`t succeed commercially without the conditions I mentioned.

As for the censorship, I don`t see why they wouldn`t remove it. A kanzenban release would obviously be intended to the more "hardcore" fans, so they wouldn`t lose anything by removing the censorship and increasing the age classification of the release a bit, rating that one release for older teens. Its that simple, really.