Why Toriyama Doesn't Want Continue Dragon Ball Again?

[Herms]

It would be at least a 19-year difference, though, since the earliest they could meet is sometime after the 28th budokai.

Would that be the earliest? We don't exactly see much of Tenshinhan at the 28th TB, or the Boo arc either. It could be possible for him to have a kid off-screen.

[Jmax]

I'm sure Toriyama could release manga without crazy deadlines. I mean, look at Yoshihiro Togashi; this guy was releasing Hunter X Hunter whenever he felt like it (granted, he was ill, but still). Once you're famous, you have more credibility. :D

[MCDaveG]

Yeah, I thought about this in case with brand new Saint Seiya manga, which is on the spot after 20 years again.
Kurumada don't have week deadlines, but man, it's really pain in the ass. It's like he's quite lazy when you look on the original series and now, you are wating for one fucking chapter literally for half a year.
I'm lucky with Dragon Ball that is, can't imagine to wait for one chapter this damn long.

[MajinGohanZ]

So if Toriyama doesn't want to continue Dragon Ball, what will it take for him to continue it?

[Bussani]

So if Toriyama doesn't want to continue Dragon Ball, what will it take for him to continue it?

It depends what you mean by "continue it". He's done a lot of work for Dragon Ball Online, and he's drawn Dragon Ball characters in Neko Majin Z. He just doesn't want to do another weekly series since it's incredibly stressful and time consuming.

[Gaffer Tape]

It would be at least a 19-year difference, though, since the earliest they could meet is sometime after the 28th budokai.

Would that be the earliest? We don't exactly see much of Tenshinhan at the 28th TB, or the Boo arc either. It could be possible for him to have a kid off-screen.

Actually, we don't exactly see any of Tenshinhan at the 28th Budoukai unless you count the "The End" panel.

[Piccolo Daimao]

So if Toriyama doesn't want to continue Dragon Ball, what will it take for him to continue it?

A gun to his head from a crazed Dragon Ball otaku.

[Blue]

So if Toriyama doesn't want to continue Dragon Ball, what will it take for him to continue it?

A gun to his head from a crazed Dragon Ball otaku.

Ha ha, "MAKE BROLLY CANON, DO IT OR I SWEAR I'LL...."

[Cowboy Dev]

So if Toriyama doesn't want to continue Dragon Ball, what will it take for him to continue it?

A gun to his head from a crazed Dragon Ball otaku.

Ha ha, "MAKE BROLLY CANON, DO IT OR I SWEAR I'LL...."

Does Saiyan-Professor even know where to find Toriyama?

[Goten Forever]

I wouldn't mind new characters. But a new series with descendant characters, it would be kind of, plot hole-sy. For example, there probably wouldn't be a lot of saiyans, as most of the saiyans are dead (apart from the Z fighters etc., who may be dead). And unless there are completely new saiyans, they (the descendants) probably wouldn't be able to turn Super saiyan as they probably won't be at least half saiyan. Of course, GT has Goku and Vegeta Jr., who are supposedly 1/16th saiyan. Yet, they can still transform.

This is where my months of reading Twilight books again and again come in handy.
If you look at the Wolf gene, it's hundreds-if not thousands-of years old, yet the newer decendents are much stronger than the original wolf. The gene grew stronger.
Why wouldn't this happen with he Saiyan genes? Humans are in fact more advanced than Saiyans, just not as naturally powerful. So, like it did with Gohan and Goten and Trunks, who all transformed at young ages, it could work to their advantage.
After so many centuries, they would be BORN as Supah-Saiyajins.

[jordanator]

I wouldn't mind new characters. But a new series with descendant characters, it would be kind of, plot hole-sy. For example, there probably wouldn't be a lot of saiyans, as most of the saiyans are dead (apart from the Z fighters etc., who may be dead). And unless there are completely new saiyans, they (the descendants) probably wouldn't be able to turn Super saiyan as they probably won't be at least half saiyan. Of course, GT has Goku and Vegeta Jr., who are supposedly 1/16th saiyan. Yet, they can still transform.

This is where my months of reading Twilight books again and again come in handy.
If you look at the Wolf gene, it's hundreds-if not thousands-of years old, yet the newer decendents are much stronger than the original wolf. The gene grew stronger.
Why wouldn't this happen with he Saiyan genes? Humans are in fact more advanced than Saiyans, just not as naturally powerful. So, like it did with Gohan and Goten and Trunks, who all transformed at young ages, it could work to their advantage.
After so many centuries, they would be BORN as Supah-Saiyajins.

Okay.
Are the wolves hybrids (sorry, not a Twilight fan)?

[Chuquita]

I understand if he's burnt out and doesn't want to do anymore. If the motivation and ideas aren't there, the end result isn't going to be the best it can be.

I wouldn't mind more Jump Tour specials though; like have Mr. Toriyama screen what Toei or Shueisha comes up with and have him give a seal of approval or ask for changes before it reaches the final draft. I'd like to think Toei's learned its lesson about GT and what not to do.

[Bussani]

Why wouldn't this happen with he Saiyan genes?

Anything's possible in fiction, but there's a problem. With each passing generation the individual has less and less Saiyan genes. Eventually they're more or less human. The one gene left would have had to have magically become extremely important to make up for all the human. And what if the Saiyan genes you're left with aren't even anything useful? Like a Saiyan appetite.

[jordanator]

Why wouldn't this happen with he Saiyan genes?

Anything's possible in fiction, but there's a problem. With each passing generation the individual has less and less Saiyan genes. Eventually they're more or less human. The one gene left would have had to have magically become extremely important to make up for all the human. And what if the Saiyan genes you're left with aren't even anything useful? Like a Saiyan appetite.

That's what I was thinking.

[Goten Forever]

Why wouldn't this happen with he Saiyan genes?

Anything's possible in fiction, but there's a problem. With each passing generation the individual has less and less Saiyan genes. Eventually they're more or less human. The one gene left would have had to have magically become extremely important to make up for all the human. And what if the Saiyan genes you're left with aren't even anything useful? Like a Saiyan appetite.

Well when it came to the werewolves, they didn't just have growth spurts, did they?
Like I said, they grew stronger.
In fact, ever done an essay with the Quagga/Zebra question? You get zebras with quagga-like features and breed them, then breed their kin, then breed THEIR kin, and so on. You end up with full blood quaggas.
So basically, the more Saiyan descendants we get, the more likely they'll 'mate up', hving kids with more Saiyan genes, who will meet each other and have kids with more saiyan genes... until you get ful-blooded Saiya-jins.
Dunno where the Zebra genes went with the Quaggas. Depends which genes are stronger - the Saiyan genes in this case.
So you'd have Saiyans with traces of Human in them.
Lol, the whole planet could be populted with Super Saiyans.

[Dayspring]

It would be at least a 19-year difference, though, since the earliest they could meet is sometime after the 28th budokai.

Would that be the earliest? We don't exactly see much of Tenshinhan at the 28th TB, or the Boo arc either. It could be possible for him to have a kid off-screen.

It would be without a retcon of some kind (even if a very minor one). Toriyama stated Lunch never found Tenshinhan, so for them to have kids and this statement to remain true, the earliest they could meet is after the Goku leaves with Uub. Tack on minimum 9 months to that moment as the earliest age.

I understand if he's burnt out and doesn't want to do anymore. If the motivation and ideas aren't there, the end result isn't going to be the best it can be.

It's pretty much this. The dude's retired as a mangaka, not just as the mangaka of Dragonball. He pretty much just does one-shots whenever he and his old assistant feel like doing a quick collaboration. Besides that, he's completely stopped doing manga. It's like when Leonard Nimoy does an acting job these days; if he's passionate about something, you'll get a minor appearance even though he's officially retired.

I wouldn't mind more Jump Tour specials though; like have Mr. Toriyama screen what Toei or Shueisha comes up with and have him give a seal of approval or ask for changes before it reaches the final draft. I'd like to think Toei's learned its lesson about GT and what not to do.

I want yearly Jump Tour specials, as well. I'd also like him to continue manga, particularly DB, as a small monthly or even seasonal project. So instead of 18-20 pages a week, we'd get 14-16 pages every one or three months.

[Bussani]

Well when it came to the werewolves, they didn't just have growth spurts, did they?
Like I said, they grew stronger.

Who said anything about growth spurts?

In fact, ever done an essay with the Quagga/Zebra question? You get zebras with quagga-like features and breed them, then breed their kin, then breed THEIR kin, and so on. You end up with full blood quaggas.

For a start, quaggas are already a subspecies of plains zebra, which makes this quite a bit different. For another thing, the subject of whether the end result would really be "full blood quaggas" is a subject of controversy for a reason.

So basically, the more Saiyan descendants we get, the more likely they'll 'mate up', hving kids with more Saiyan genes, who will meet each other and have kids with more saiyan genes... until you get ful-blooded Saiya-jins.

I really don't see this happening. You can't make a whole member of a species from just a few of their genes. Those few genes can't just become all the missing ones. And even if a gene is dominant, whether you get them from your parent or not is still up to chance, since you'll always get a random half from each parent. A gene being dominant makes no difference if it doesn't get passed on. Even making a full Saiyan from two half Saiyans is incredibly unlikely, and even then you'd have just as much chance of making a full blooded human instead.

[Goten Forever]

Well when it came to the werewolves, they didn't just have growth spurts, did they?
Like I said, they grew stronger.

Who said anything about growth spurts?

In fact, ever done an essay with the Quagga/Zebra question? You get zebras with quagga-like features and breed them, then breed their kin, then breed THEIR kin, and so on. You end up with full blood quaggas.

For a start, quaggas are already a subspecies of plains zebra, which makes this quite a bit different. For another thing, the subject of whether the end result would really be "full blood quaggas" is a subject of controversy for a reason.

So basically, the more Saiyan descendants we get, the more likely they'll 'mate up', hving kids with more Saiyan genes, who will meet each other and have kids with more saiyan genes... until you get ful-blooded Saiya-jins.

I really don't see this happening. You can't make a whole member of a species from just a few of their genes. Those few genes can't just become all the missing ones. And even if a gene is dominant, whether you get them from your parent or not is still up to chance, since you'll always get a random half from each parent. A gene being dominant makes no difference if it doesn't get passed on. Even making a full Saiyan from two half Saiyans is incredibly unlikely, and even then you'd have just as much chance of making a full blooded human instead.

The dominant gene is usually passed on, and Saiyans and Humans are closely related enough...
Humans can use Ki just like saiyans. They can become *stronger* than full-blodded saiya-jin just from training as we see in Piccolo and Krillin.
You only need a couple of saiyan genes to get a Super Saiyan.

[Bussani]

The dominant gene is usually passed on

Not exactly. You get a completely random half from each parent. A recessive gene has as much chance of being passed on as a dominant gene. The only difference is that if you have a dominant trait from one parent and a submissive trait from another parent, it will be the dominant trait that gets used. You'd still have the recessive trait and have a chance of passing it to your children, though.

The problem is that the dominant gene might not be passed down at all. It's the one that will be active if it is passed down, but there's no guarantee that it will be. As such, after several generations, both parents could only have the recessive human genes for a particular trait. Then you have no chance at all of their children inheriting that particular Saiyan trait from them. That's not even getting into the fact that you're talking about inbreeding on a massive scale.

Additionally, I think it's safe to say that Saiyan genes aren't all dominant. If they were, Trunks and Bra wouldn't have human hair and eyes. Hell, wouldn't all the 1/2 Saiyans be identical to Goku and Vegeta if they were?

You only need a couple of saiyan genes to get a Super Saiyan.

Says who? And which genes? Would the gene for Saiyan eyes allow you to become Super Saiyan?

[Raki]

I know he said he's exhausted, that's why he's stop the series but it's already 15 years now from when he stop the series. so why he doesn't continue it?

He hates deadline hell. Ask other JUMP authors what they think of deadline hell.