"DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

[Taku128]

So far we haven't seen Freeza completely lose it though. One of my favorite aspects of Nakao's performance in Z is when Freeza starts to freak out over Goku and he yells so loud that his voice cracks. I really hope Ayres does the same thing once those scenes show up in Kai.

[verto]

When is it that we'll hear "Saiyan Blood" played in the anime? I can't remember when at all.... Although I'm really looking forward to "Only a Chilling Eulogy", can't wait to hear what FUNi does with the song.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

When is it that we'll hear "Saiyan Blood" played in the anime? I can't remember when at all.... Although I'm really looking forward to "Only a Chilling Eulogy", can't wait to hear what FUNi does with the song.

It's episode 41!

[El Diabeetus]

When is it that we'll hear "Saiyan Blood" played in the anime? I can't remember when at all.... Although I'm really looking forward to "Only a Chilling Eulogy", can't wait to hear what FUNi does with the song.

Saiyan Blood is episode 41. Only a Chilling Elegy is first used in Episode 37; but, I think 40 also.

It's currently 33 as of tomorrow, so 2 weeks for Chilling Elegy, about 4 for Saiyan Blood.

[Cowboy Dev]

http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/voi ... /Superman/

Which Superman is Sean channeling again? You've got to be specific

I didn't hear any superhero in him, but maybe that's because I watched Batman: TAS, Superman: TAS, JL, JLU, Batman Beyond, Superfriends, Superman (1940s), Batman (60s Series), X-Men (older and Evolution), Spider-man (TAS, And His Amazing Friends, and Spectacular), The Batman, Batman: The Brave and the Bold, etc. And that's not including any movies I've seen or comics I've read (which only really work voice in the mind)

But, before I go any further off topic and get smitten by Mike's Mjolnir (that argument is just a big pet peeve of mine as a comic geek):

Sean is getting the right balance of light and playful (as when he question Ginyu's pose and tries it himself), and more serious (important fighting, anger). Ginyu, I'm starting to like more than I did prior, though I still loved Brice Armstrong's work as Ginyu. Jheese is a bit more tough to grow to at times. Somewhat inconsistent, but I do see potential.

The Nail and Freeza fight should be interesting, to see how each actor takes said character's first real fight. Too bad for Nail, it's short lived. Whatever good or bad we see from that fight's delivery will not be put to much use after that, sadly. Freeza, though, has plenty of time left to continue to show what this new voice is capable of.

Also, I still wait for the next insert songs in my own childish glee.

Did you not read my post? When I say "Superman" I mean in the broad sense of the superhero type voice and delivery. The cheesy kind. Even when Nozawa gets serious you still hear a pitch of Goku's lightheartness. Something I STILL fail to hear Schemmel do. However, I will say he is trying I'll give him that.

[MR.Mark]

Episode 33 clips are up:
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Schemmel's Nail is great!!

Indeed, "very well then" a very sexy delivery, now THAT is a macho sounding voice, unlike his Goku.

Why is F­rieza so goddamn inconsistent? When he's angry or annoyed, he sounds grating, yet when he's just talking, he's good

Nakao does the same thing, except better. When Nakao gets angry, he ups the rasp and starts almost shrieking, and it seems Ayres attempts to do that, but ends up sounded a bit weak and winded. I'd say he's about on par with Kai Nakao.

Ayres has so much variation in his performance that I suppose you could interpret it as "inconsistent". But even if that was true, which I disagree with strongly, I'd rather a great voice that fit the character that was at times inconsistent. Than Linda Young, who was consistently BAD and completely wrong for the role at all times. Ayres is indeed up there with Nakao with his interpretation of the character as far as I'm concerned.

[Ultimate_DB_Fan]

@Mr. Mark, Y'might as well marry the Kai dub, being as how you love it so much...

And Young was "bad" to you perhaps, but a legion of others would disagree.

Go on ahead and say how there's an "annoying buzzing sound" which showcases your great ignorance...

[Metalwario64]

And Young was "bad" to you perhaps, but a legion of others would disagree.

Just because a majority of American fans were exposed to Newstone and Young first and prefer them doesn't make them right, nor does it make Mr.Mark wrong, so you pretty much negated any point you were trying to make. It's like how in grade school when dumbass punks would try to tell me that "if enough people say you are stupid, then it means you are!", which is a childish, inane, bullshit "argument" to make, and holds no water whatsoever other than to satiate one's own ego.

Just because more people in America like Young the most, doesn't automatically make any Young detractors "wrong", nor does it make Young's fans right. It's just a stock argument I've seen "dub fans" make many times. How about actually debating instead of simply baiting with dry arguments.

[MR.Mark]

It's just a stock argument I've seen "dub fans" make many times.

Not only that, he made the classic "offended by criticism of the DBZ dub taking it personally" many dubbies are guilty of. labeling me ignorant and making untrue claims that I love the Kai dub. Pot. Kettle. Black

[Innagadadavida]

This might sound kind of strange... But I really prefer Shemmel's last Nail. It was cheesy. It sounded like a white guy immitating a black guy. But it was memorable. But I'll be honest and say that I do like some of the more "punched up" voices. We are watching a cartoon, not a evening ABC drama.

[penguintruth]

I utterly refuse to believe Linda Young's Freeza has a "legion of fans". Aside from a few comments here and there, I've never seen much positivity towards her Freeza. Even on Funimation forums or YouTube. It's one of the least popular voices in the entire dub.

[Metalwario64]

This might sound kind of strange... But I really prefer Shemmel's last Nail. It was cheesy. It sounded like a white guy immitating a black guy. But it was memorable.

"Yawantofight-FIIIIIIIIIIINE!!!!!"

He also sounded like Goku when Fri­eza punched in his chest from behind and made them look inflated!

I utterly refuse to believe Linda Young's Freeza has a "legion of fans". Aside from a few comments here and there, I've never seen much positivity towards her Freeza. Even on Funimation forums or YouTube. It's one of the least popular voices in the entire dub.

Ya must be watching the wrong YouTube videos then, because every video I've watched with Linda Young's Fri­eza in it, I read comments like "only frezza culd tell jokes leik that an still be creepy! hahah backscracher", or "he may sound like a old lady but it suits him."

I also see YouTube videos of Kai's dub, and so many people complain about every single voice change, even ones who weren't recasted, and so many people complain about how "its not rite 4 fre­iza to sound lik a man!"...

[Innagadadavida]

I just can not find the energy to give a shit what those kids think. If they can provide a reason for their opinion and type properly while doing so, I'd definitely count it as valid. Otherwise, I'm led to believe they didn't put much thought into it and are therefore less entitled to what they want.

[Metalwario64]

I just can not find the energy to give a shit what those kids think. If they can provide a reason for their opinion and type properly while doing so, I'd definitely count it as valid. Otherwise, I'm led to believe they didn't put much thought into it and are therefore less entitled to what they want.

It's just that it seems to be the general mindset of the US fan-base at least. Especially so since I've talked to fans in real life who think the same way. Not to mention countless other anime forums out there where people say "I'm not really a fan, as I grew out of it a long time ago, but the Japanese one is horrible! The dub was an improvement in this case; they all sounded girly in the Japanese one!".

[Blue]

@Mr. Mark, Y'might as well marry the Kai dub, being as how you love it so much...

...Seriously?

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Kelamis' speaking voice improved when he returned for the Android-Imperfect Cell episodes.

Not really. He still had the same annoying, overly-bubbly voice in those episodes.

Some of his screams and battle cries are very similar to Nozawa's. So if you find Nozawa's screams easy on the ears, you should find Peter's screams easy as well.

Oh believe me, I don't. But at least when Masako Nozawa speaks normally as Gokū, it doesn't make me want to rip my ears out.

Someone on youtube edited Ocean's audio to match the scene of the Kaiokenx20 Goku did against Freeza and they used movie 2's Kaioken. When I first watched it I almost thought it was Masako Nozawa, it's that close. It also helps that Kelamis pronounced Kaioken correctly.

Just because Peter Kelamis can do the same high-pitched scream that Masako Nozawa can, doesn't necessarily make him a good Gokū. A lot of fans need to understand this.

But you said you thought Peter was the worst Goku and now you're saying Kirby is?

My mistake. They both really suck at playing Gokū, but Peter Kelamis just sucks that tad more than Kirby Morrow.

[Metalwario64]

@Mr. Mark, Y'might as well marry the Kai dub, being as how you love it so much...

...Seriously?

Yes, very childish.

Just because Peter Kelamis can do the same high-pitched scream that Masako Nozawa can, doesn't necessarily make him a good Gokū. A lot of fans need to understand this.

Yeah, I completely agree. Most times I see people praise his work, it's usually due to his movie 2 Kaioken scream.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Yeah, I completely agree. Most times I see people praise his work, it's usually due to his movie 2 Kaioken scream.

Same. It's like they just listen to his Kaiōken scream, and not any of his other voice work as Gokū.

[penguintruth]

No, Kelamis is good (or at least, decent) because he always sounds light and high-spirited, sort of like a big kid, without any extreme coarseness to his voice the way Schemmel has, but can still handle Goku when he's serious. He captures elements of Nozawa's tone as Goku, and that's why I like him, not because his voice sounds like hers when he screams.

I mean "like" by the way, as in prefer him to Schemmel and the other English VAs who've voiced him. I don't think Kelamis is any brilliant Goku, either, just that he has the potential, and showed that pretty well in the movies. No particularly excellent English voice for Goku has appeared in any professional dub for the show.

Saying somebody is a better Goku than Sean Schemmel is no high compliment.

[Puto]

IMO, Kelamis is awesome at screaming attacks (especially the movie 2 Kaiô-ken), but horrible for normal conversation as Gokû. When he's talking normally, he still sounds like he's yelling at the enemy. It's really awkward.