Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Herms » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:40 pm

Mewzard wrote:Was Chi-Chi's "hickish" dialect still in the manga during the Z era?
Yes, in Japanese at least. Viz tends to be very on-and-off when it comes to her accent.
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Then obviously the solution is to give her a Cockney accent.
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:31 am

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And here's a good exchange between Yajirove and Chichi.
Yajirove: "Hey! This is fine 'n' all, but y'r Gokuh's wife, right? Stop worrin' about just the kid, and look after y'r husband, would ya?"
Chichi: "How rude! Nothin' doin'."
I don't know about you, but I sure as hell wouldn't want those characters to speak like that in English. It would just sound grating. I'm perfectly fine with how Yajirobe and Chichi are portrayed in the dub.

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Post by penguintruth » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:13 am

But those characters are sort of supposed to be grating. They're hillbillies.

You remove some of their texture as characters by making them more pleasant to listen to.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:19 am

penguintruth wrote:But those characters are sort of supposed to be grating. They're hillbillies.
Yeah, but you can make those characters sound like hillbillies, by making them say slang like "ain't", without making them sound like annoying rednecks.

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Post by Rory » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:30 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
penguintruth wrote:But those characters are sort of supposed to be grating. They're hillbillies.
Yeah, but you can make those characters sound like hillbillies, by making them say slang like "ain't", without making them sound like annoying rednecks.
You mean the rednecks they are? :)

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Post by Rocketman » Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:05 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:I don't know about you, but I sure as hell wouldn't want those characters to speak like that in English. It would just sound grating.
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Post by linkdude20002001 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:13 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:I don't know about you, but I sure as hell wouldn't want those characters to speak like that in English. It would just sound grating. I'm perfectly fine with how Yajirobe and Chichi are portrayed in the dub.
If you think that's grating, then you think the characters are grating. English or Japanese; it's the same way of talking. You can't just use ain't and call it good. That's not the characters, and not how Toriyama made them. It's a gag manga full of characters that are supposed to amuse you, and Yajirove certainly does amuse me. Chichi does too, I suppose, but not necessarily because of her dialect.
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Post by Innagadadavida » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:26 pm

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Uhhh... You can be proud of living in the south without saluting the confederate flag. :oops:

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:41 pm

Well, technically, you could hold up an American flag and say that it used to in part represent a movement that condoned slavery and racial inequality among other things. Sorry, but I happen to find both sides equally annoying: those who tout the Confederate flag as undeniably awesome and those who automatically want to ban it because of perceived racism.

But, yeah, I agree with linkdude. The way the characters speak are part of who the characters are. There is a bit of wiggle room with varying dialects not having an exact translation convention between languages, but it is pretty darned close and not at all a stretch to put a bit of southern American in the way they speak for an American audience.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Suupaa Gohan 2 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:53 pm

Vegeta: "With this 24/7 sun, who knows how long it's been since I slept?"

Anyone else think this is another one of those 'off' bits of dialogue? Vegeta isn't an earthling, and I think Namek is a prime example of the fact that other planets in the DB universe have different measures of time and day and night...why should Vegeta be using Earth's system? For all we know his native planet had a different system too, and it feels a little bizarre to use an English colloquialism just cuz when you think about that fact. Reminds me of some of the old Ocean dub lines, like Piccolo's 'David and Goliath' reference, and other such things. But maybe that's just me.
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Post by Big Momma » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:13 pm

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:Vegeta: "With this 24/7 sun, who knows how long it's been since I slept?"

Anyone else think this is another one of those 'off' bits of dialogue? Vegeta isn't an earthling, and I think Namek is a prime example of the fact that other planets in the DB universe have different measures of time and day and night...why should Vegeta be using Earth's system? For all we know his native planet had a different system too, and it feels a little bizarre to use an English colloquialism just cuz when you think about that fact. Reminds me of some of the old Ocean dub lines, like Piccolo's 'David and Goliath' reference, and other such things. But maybe that's just me.

I think it's just one of those times when you just ignore what's said by the part-monkey man who's trying to steal magical wish-granting spheres from a walking, high-class lizard. :P
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:21 pm

It's certainly not the most egregious offender, but it does sound like something that would pull you out of the show for a moment, if only because it just doesn't sound like something that Vegeta would actually say.
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Post by Tsukento » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:40 am

Anyone else having issues getting the newest episode to load properly on Nicktoons' site? It seems to bug out whenever I have Ad Block Plus active and skips right to whatever's next on the playlist. It's really annoying because it's only doing it with yesterday's episode and its clips and nothing else. I've not had this issue with anything else. :(

Edit: Scratch that. Seems to spazz out regardless of whether I have ABP active or not. Either way, anyone else having this issue?
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by batistabus » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:45 am

Tsukento wrote:Anyone else having issues getting the newest episode to load properly on Nicktoons' site? It seems to bug out whenever I have Ad Block Plus active and skips right to whatever's next on the playlist. It's really annoying because it's only doing it with yesterday's episode and its clips and nothing else. I've not had this issue with anything else. :(

Edit: Scratch that. Seems to spazz out regardless of whether I have ABP active or not. Either way, anyone else having this issue?
It does that for me from time to time, usually when a new episode comes out. I haven't been able to get it to work today, which is preventing me from listening to Freeza scream "VERMIN!"

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by MR.Mark » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:07 pm

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:Vegeta: "With this 24/7 sun, who knows how long it's been since I slept?"
How's that worse than Vegeta or Freeza knowing what fireworks are?

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by KaiserNeko » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:27 pm

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Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:Vegeta: "With this 24/7 sun, who knows how long it's been since I slept?"
How's that worse than Vegeta or Freeza knowing what fireworks are?
Because fireworks can conceptually be made by any race. The concept of a 24 hour day is pretty native to Earth.
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Post by Mewzard » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:40 pm

Considering if the Earth was too much closer or father away from the sun, life wouldn't have formed. That's not entirely impossible for him to have said.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by KaiserNeko » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:58 pm

Mewzard wrote:Considering if the Earth was too much closer or father away from the sun, life wouldn't have formed. That's not entirely impossible for him to have said.
You have to accompany for many factors. A planet can be closer or further away than us depending on it's size and atmosphere, and still support life. Furthermore, the size of the actual sun. Depending on the star's output of heat, you can have a planet pretty far away and still support life.

I'm not even going to go into the necessities for actual life, but ultimately, it's just a throwaway line that doesn't change much. It doesn't make any sense, no, but it doesn't really hurt the scene or the show.

Though, seriously, the possibilities of Planet Vegeta, or anywhere else, having the same hour/week structure is pretty ridiculous.
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Mewzard wrote:Considering if the Earth was too much closer or father away from the sun, life wouldn't have formed. That's not entirely impossible for him to have said.
The distance from the Earth to the Sun does not affect the length of our day (barring becoming tidally locked, which would only happen if the planet was closer than Mercury to our Sun).

KaiserNeko wrote:Though, seriously, the possibilities of Planet Vegeta, or anywhere else, having the same hour/week structure is pretty ridiculous.
Mars has a 24 hour day.

The week is pretty unique to us, though, because it's derived from our Moon's orbit. The Moon takes 28 days to orbit, so we divided that by four.

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Post by MR.Mark » Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:25 pm

KaiserNeko wrote: Though, seriously, the possibilities of Planet Vegeta, or anywhere else, having the same hour/week structure is pretty ridiculous.
Nowhere near as ridiculous as everyone speaking a universal language.

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