Acting: JpnDBZ vs. Kai vs. DUB kai (better/worse deliveries)

[jjgp1112]

Wait, so you preferred the Drummond impersonation over a variation of his normal voice? Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

[MR.Mark]

Hm, I actually like Horikawa's Kai performance. True, there are differences between this performance and the past, but there are certain aspects that he added in the Namek exploits which I really liked, particularly the desperation in his voice.

Indeed, my biggest beef with Horikawa in Kai so far is mainly that very odd "erereerereerere" he did while powering up in the Saiyan arc. There is quite a few moments where he surpassed his performance from Z while on Namek. Like when he fought Reecome. Remember when Vegeta beat the shit out of Reecome, through him into the mountain, then started wailing on him with his ki?

"MADA MADA MADA!!!!, T-YAHHHHH!!!" Much more intense then his Z delivery.

[ohaimynameiserik]

Horikawa's Vegeta has much more grit and even rasp now.

I think that if this was the performance he originally gave, then the Vegeta that Sabat is playing in the Kai dub would seem almost accurate to the rest of us.

Oh, and by the way, I like his performance so far. Dunno why everyone is giving him shit.

[B]

There are people giving Horikawa's Kai performance shit?

Get out.

[MR.Mark]

Wait, because I didn't care for maybe one or two of Horikawa's scream/power up sounds in Kai, I'm "giving him shit" ?

Relax guys, English voice actors can outdo the original Japanese from time to time.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

There are people giving Horikawa's Kai performance shit?

Get out.

Damn. It's like if someone says one single thing bad about the Japanese cast, people take out there shotguns. I personally love Horikawa's Vegeta, but there are some people who don't and you personally have to deal with that.

[Metalwario64]

Relax guys, English voice actors can outdo the original Japanese from time to time.

No, because if the original performance is poor, than the dub performance has to be equally as poor, or else it's inaccurate and unfaithful to the original, and therefor is a poor performance.

[Cableguy15]

Wait, so you preferred the Drummond impersonation over a variation of his normal voice? Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

It started out as a Drummond impression in the first few episodes, but he eventually settled into the role and started doing his own thing and it was probably my favorite performance by him (Initial Ginyu-Buu dubbing). Besides that I do prefer Drummond as Vegeta anyway.

I think it might just be that Sabat's voice annoys me in general, I don't know, But every time I compare his newer Vegeta to his old one, I greatly prefer the old one each time.

[MugiMikey]

I'm a fan of both the Japanese version and the dub, but I always do lean on the side of being able to watch something properly in my own language. I grew up with the dub so I like all of the voices. I also like all of the Japanese voices. I'm somewhat easy to please when it comes to voices in Dragon Ball. But I'm not biased; I will admit each set of casts have their ups and downs.

I always thought those kkkkchhkkcchkkkchkkk noises were part of the charm of the show. Like, these guys are in so much pain or rage that they have to clench their teeth and breathe through them or they'll scream their lungs out. But yeah, when you think about it, it is pretty dumb.

It sounds like characters that make that noise are hocking a loogie. Honestly, it's annoying.

[Cipher]

There are people giving Horikawa's Kai performance shit?

Get out.

I think it's all relative. I haven't been following Kai in either English or Japanese, just checking out episodes here and there. While Horikawa is still Vegeta and by no means bad, what I've seen feels like a step down in energy and delivery from the same scenes in Z.

Meanwhile, Sabat's going for a most-improved award in the role. It's not that he's better, but it's easy to see why it might be more exciting.

[Gaffer Tape]

Wait, what? I'm not sure I follow. If he's not "better" how can he be "most-improved" or at all improved? Don't they go hand in hand?

[Metalwario64]

Wait, what? I'm not sure I follow. If he's not "better" how can he be "most-improved" or at all improved? Don't they go hand in hand?

He means better than Horikawa.

[Gaffer Tape]

Ah, I see. That makes more sense. Now I can more easily follow the flow of conversation.

EDIT: Haha, look at that. 1234.

[B]

To clear up any misunderstanding, that post I made was really just relative to the Japanese version. I wasn't making any sort of comparison to Sabat. And I do feel Horikawa's doing a better job here(and in some recent games) than in Z.

[songohan619]

I love both the casts because each actor portrays each character differently, there is no way around it.

[Cowboy Dev]

I think I'll go ahead and list my preference:

1. DBZ (Japanese)
2. DB Kai (Japanese)
3. DBZ Kai (English Dub)
(Even with the more accurate script and extremely better recast actors, the veteran Japanese cast still has them beat. Sorry FUNimation, at least your trying to make up for lost chances...)
Speaking of which, no way in hell am I ever listing the DBZ dub.

[MR.Mark]

Well, this topic has little to do on which version you prefer, but rather acting moments where you found performances were better in either version.

[Cowboy Dev]

Well, this topic has little to do on which version you prefer, but rather acting moments where you found performances were better in either version.

Freeza stabbing Kuririn with his horn was handled very seriously in the Japanese version. Seriously, Mayumi Tanaka sounded like was in actual pain! Ryusei Nakao was so deliciously evil in that scene, I wanted to kick his ass!

[MR.Mark]

Well, this topic has little to do on which version you prefer, but rather acting moments where you found performances were better in either version.

Freeza stabbing Kuririn with his horn was handled very seriously in the Japanese version. Seriously, Mayumi Tanaka sounded like was in actual pain! Ryusei Nakao was so deliciously evil in that scene, I wanted to kick his ass!

Which version, Kai or Z?

[Cowboy Dev]

Well, this topic has little to do on which version you prefer, but rather acting moments where you found performances were better in either version.

Freeza stabbing Kuririn with his horn was handled very seriously in the Japanese version. Seriously, Mayumi Tanaka sounded like was in actual pain! Ryusei Nakao was so deliciously evil in that scene, I wanted to kick his ass!

Which version, Kai or Z?

The Z version. I have yet to see the Japanese Kai version. The english dub version of that scene is a joke. It's hard to take anything seriously about that scene when you have Freeza pretending he's at a rodeo.