Acting: JpnDBZ vs. Kai vs. DUB kai (better/worse deliveries)

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Re: Acting: JpnDBZ vs. Kai vs. DUB kai (better/worse deliveries)

Post by Blue » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:16 pm

Yeah I'll never understand why people claim it makes the character sound more evil. It just sounds like a raspy woman making rodeo jokes to me while doing an awful fake laugh.
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Re: Acting: JpnDBZ vs. Kai vs. DUB kai (better/worse deliveries)

Post by Cowboy Dev » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:56 pm

Blue wrote:Yeah I'll never understand why people claim it makes the character sound more evil. It just sounds like a raspy woman making rodeo jokes to me while doing an awful fake laugh.
People honestly think "Ride 'em Cowboy!" makes Freeza sound more evil?! :shock:
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Re: Acting: JpnDBZ vs. Kai vs. DUB kai (better/worse deliveries)

Post by DB_Fan1991 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:44 pm

Cowboy Dev wrote:
Blue wrote:Yeah I'll never understand why people claim it makes the character sound more evil. It just sounds like a raspy woman making rodeo jokes to me while doing an awful fake laugh.
People honestly think "Ride 'em Cowboy!" makes Freeza sound more evil?! :shock:
I don't. It sounds silly to me.
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Re: Acting: JpnDBZ vs. Kai vs. DUB kai (better/worse deliveries)

Post by Cowboy Dev » Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:08 pm

DB_Fan1991 wrote:
Cowboy Dev wrote:
Blue wrote:Yeah I'll never understand why people claim it makes the character sound more evil. It just sounds like a raspy woman making rodeo jokes to me while doing an awful fake laugh.
People honestly think "Ride 'em Cowboy!" makes Freeza sound more evil?! :shock:
I don't. It sounds silly to me.
Of course not. Anyone with tastes can see that. :D
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Re: Acting: JpnDBZ vs. Kai vs. DUB kai (better/worse deliveries)

Post by Metalwario64 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:33 pm

Cowboy Dev wrote:
Blue wrote:Yeah I'll never understand why people claim it makes the character sound more evil. It just sounds like a raspy woman making rodeo jokes to me while doing an awful fake laugh.
People honestly think "Ride 'em Cowboy!" makes Freeza sound more evil?! :shock:
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Re: Acting: JpnDBZ vs. Kai vs. DUB kai (better/worse deliveries)

Post by Blue » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:32 pm

I've heard people claim that on here too. Same case with the whole back scratcher joke, which is even weirder to me because that's blatantly just a bad pun written by the punch up team.
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Re: Acting: JpnDBZ vs. Kai vs. DUB kai (better/worse deliveries)

Post by Cowboy Dev » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:34 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
Cowboy Dev wrote:
Blue wrote:Yeah I'll never understand why people claim it makes the character sound more evil. It just sounds like a raspy woman making rodeo jokes to me while doing an awful fake laugh.
People honestly think "Ride 'em Cowboy!" makes Freeza sound more evil?! :shock:
On YouTube.
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Post by Coola Yagami » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:30 pm

The Z version. I have yet to see the Japanese Kai version. The english dub version of that scene is a joke. It's hard to take anything seriously about that scene when you have Freeza pretending he's at a rodeo.
They probably thought the scene was so sick and whatnot they had to throw in some childish jokes to not freak out the kiddies too much. Honestly, for me the Freeza-impales-Kuririn scene as well as Videl's beatdown are probably the 2 most graphic and painful-to-watch scenes onf DBZ.

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Post by Cowboy Dev » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:44 pm

Coola Yagami wrote:
The Z version. I have yet to see the Japanese Kai version. The english dub version of that scene is a joke. It's hard to take anything seriously about that scene when you have Freeza pretending he's at a rodeo.
They probably thought the scene was so sick and whatnot they had to throw in some childish jokes to not freak out the kiddies too much. Honestly, for me the Freeza-impales-Kuririn scene as well as Videl's beatdown are probably the 2 most graphic and painful-to-watch scenes onf DBZ.
The difference is at least they treated the Videl scene with some respect (Kudos english dub, I guess you can do some things right.)
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:24 am

Blue wrote:I've heard people claim that on here too. Same case with the whole back scratcher joke, which is even weirder to me because that's blatantly just a bad pun written by the punch up team.
I actually thought that back-scratcher line was very sadistic. I cringed the first time I watched that scene.

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Post by Cowboy Dev » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:04 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Blue wrote:I've heard people claim that on here too. Same case with the whole back scratcher joke, which is even weirder to me because that's blatantly just a bad pun written by the punch up team.
I actually thought that back-scratcher line was very sadistic. I cringed the first time I watched that scene.
Please tell me your joking. What's 'sadistic' about a bad pun that completely takes the seriousness out of the moment and turns it into a fucking joke?
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:06 am

Cowboy Dev wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Blue wrote:I've heard people claim that on here too. Same case with the whole back scratcher joke, which is even weirder to me because that's blatantly just a bad pun written by the punch up team.
I actually thought that back-scratcher line was very sadistic. I cringed the first time I watched that scene.
Please tell me your joking. What's 'sadistic' about a bad pun that completely takes the seriousness out of the moment and turns it into a fucking joke?
It's sadistic because he ripped off a poor Namekian's hand and wants use it as a back-scratcher. Think about it.

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Re: Acting: JpnDBZ vs. Kai vs. DUB kai (better/worse deliveries)

Post by Cowboy Dev » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:13 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Cowboy Dev wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:I actually thought that back-scratcher line was very sadistic. I cringed the first time I watched that scene.
Please tell me your joking. What's 'sadistic' about a bad pun that completely takes the seriousness out of the moment and turns it into a fucking joke?
It's sadistic because he ripped off a poor Namekian's hand and wants use it as a back-scratcher. Think about it.
Have you seen Namekian fingernails? Those things would cut your skin badly.
But in all seriousness, shitty line is shitty.
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Re: Acting: JpnDBZ vs. Kai vs. DUB kai (better/worse deliveries)

Post by SaiyamanMS » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:20 am

Honestly, I found Freeza's jokes in the old dub quite sadistic. Think about it. He's doing all kinds of brutal things, yet he takes them all lightly enough to joke about it. Sure, it's not the same as the Japanese version, but still.

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Post by KaiserNeko » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:10 am

SaiyamanMS wrote:Honestly, I found Freeza's jokes in the old dub quite sadistic. Think about it. He's doing all kinds of brutal things, yet he takes them all lightly enough to joke about it. Sure, it's not the same as the Japanese version, but still.
But the jokes are -dumb-. Like, 5th Grade dumb.

Also, really poorly delivered.
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Post by SaiyamanMS » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:14 am

I never said they weren't dumb. But they're still somewhat sadistic. :P

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Post by MR.Mark » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:02 pm

Maybe in a capable actor's hands like Ayres that crap would sound sadistic, instead of sadistically painful to my ears combined with granny-Freeza voice. Either way it's terrible unfaithful dialogue and should be left in the past with tranny Freeza where it belongs.

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Post by Cowboy Dev » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:58 pm

MR.Mark wrote:Maybe in a capable actor's hands like Ayres that crap would sound sadistic, instead of sadistically painful to my ears combined with granny-Freeza voice. Either way it's terrible unfaithful dialogue and should be left in the past with tranny Freeza where it belongs.
I second this.
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Having Toshio Furukawa balance between Piccolo and Ataru would be hilarious.

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