Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by Ishtar318 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:33 pm

Char Aznable wrote:I assume best case scenario, they'll go through all 35 previously-aired episodes again and just continue on from there.

So, does flipping the channel and seeing Raditz blabber on symbolize disappointing reruns for anyone else? First Z years back, now Kai too. XD
I think it's even worse that Nicktoons repeatedly showed the hell out of all of their Kai episodes, especially the early ones. That makes seeing just re-runs more tiresome.

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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by Cowboy Dev » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:02 pm

Ishtar318 wrote:
Char Aznable wrote:I assume best case scenario, they'll go through all 35 previously-aired episodes again and just continue on from there.

So, does flipping the channel and seeing Raditz blabber on symbolize disappointing reruns for anyone else? First Z years back, now Kai too. XD
I think it's even worse that Nicktoons repeatedly showed the hell out of all of their Kai episodes, especially the early ones. That makes seeing just re-runs more tiresome.
So very true. It makes Kai's already dull soundtrack more tiresome.
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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by sun_wukong86 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:51 am

Ishtar318 wrote:
Char Aznable wrote:I assume best case scenario, they'll go through all 35 previously-aired episodes again and just continue on from there.

So, does flipping the channel and seeing Raditz blabber on symbolize disappointing reruns for anyone else? First Z years back, now Kai too. XD
I think it's even worse that Nicktoons repeatedly showed the hell out of all of their Kai episodes, especially the early ones. That makes seeing just re-runs more tiresome.

Remember back in 1999-2000 when Toonami aired the Freeza saga like 5-6 times in a row before they got to Garlic JR? Yeah....DBZ fans are used to this by now...
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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by Kai_fan » Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:05 pm

My prediction: Kai will be back in November, since November is "rating sweeps" month.

I would be very surprised to see it back before early September at the earliest (to coincide with the new TV season), or to NOT see new episodes in November!

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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:11 pm

September at the earliest and this is generally when the fall shows start airing, can't wait to see Goku Vs Freeza!

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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by Elite49 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:55 am

Looks like it'll start back up on September 6th according to Wikipedia. I know it's wikipedia and no one believes them but I have been using their Kai dates since it was first broadcast on Nicktoons and haven't been wrong since. I guess take it for what it's worth.

Also, I remember waiting months for new episodes (or at least felt like it) back from 96-03 :cry:
Actually looking at the times of broadcast in US, I'm shocked. I either remember it fondly or didn't have a clue it was almost an entire year from Cell to World Tournament.

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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by Metalwario64 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:21 am

Elite49 wrote:Looks like it'll start back up on September 6th according to Wikipedia. I know it's wikipedia and no one believes them but I have been using their Kai dates since it was first broadcast on Nicktoons and haven't been wrong since. I guess take it for what it's worth.

Also, I remember waiting months for new episodes (or at least felt like it) back from 96-03 :cry:
Actually looking at the times of broadcast in US, I'm shocked. I either remember it fondly or didn't have a clue it was almost an entire year from Cell to World Tournament.
Yeah, there were official promos and such which confirmed it would be returning on the 6th of September.
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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:31 am

This wasn't really a huge break at all :shock: anyone probably has said by now that it was to slow down so dubbing can go on an easy flowing schedule.

3 weeks isn't that much at all.. though I'm not gonna complain, I think I have the 6th off.. wish I had the 9th(halo reach..)

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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by RazorX » Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:53 am

ThunderPX wrote:
RazorX wrote:The first break was after Freeza transformed for the second time.
I don't recall.
DBZ aired straight up to the episode "Frieza's Second Transformation" before stopping for a break and going into reruns. So for people in the UK and Netherlands, the dub went from brilliant (Ocean) to terrible (Funimation) within the space of one day, as opposed to the US where there were many reruns of the Ocean dub episodes 1-53 before Funimation came in with their Texas based dub.

I think Australia also didn't have a break between the Ocean and Funi dubs.

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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by Mewzard » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:31 am

RazorX wrote:
ThunderPX wrote:
RazorX wrote:The first break was after Freeza transformed for the second time.
I don't recall.
DBZ aired straight up to the episode "Frieza's Second Transformation" before stopping for a break and going into reruns. So for people in the UK and Netherlands, the dub went from brilliant (Ocean) to terrible (Funimation) within the space of one day, as opposed to the US where there were many reruns of the Ocean dub episodes 1-53 before Funimation came in with their Texas based dub.

I think Australia also didn't have a break between the Ocean and Funi dubs.
Well, I wouldn't call the Ocean dub brilliant by any standard, but I can see what you're saying.

Still, it is far better to go from one to another quickly, rather than 500 re-airings; the re-airings can get rather old quickly.
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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by RazorX » Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:07 am

Mewzard wrote:
Well, I wouldn't call the Ocean dub brilliant by any standard, but I can see what you're saying.

Still, it is far better to go from one to another quickly, rather than 500 re-airings; the re-airings can get rather old quickly.
I was referring to the voicework mostly, and the music. The editing and scripts were not very good, but they done by Funi and Saban.

It is better to have had the change done quickly but the shock wasn't any less than having had a lot of reruns before the change.

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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:16 am

RazorX wrote: So for people in the UK and Netherlands, the dub went from brilliant (Ocean) to terrible (Funimation) within the space of one day, as opposed to the US where there were many reruns of the Ocean dub episodes 1-53 before Funimation came in with their Texas based dub.
I actually agree with you on this statement. I thought the edited-to-pieces Ocean dub of seasons 1 and 2 was better than FUNimation's season 3 dub.

RazorX wrote: I think Australia also didn't have a break between the Ocean and Funi dubs.
Sorry, can't help you there. I think I was too young to remember. (* *;)

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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by RazorX » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:04 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
RazorX wrote: So for people in the UK and Netherlands, the dub went from brilliant (Ocean) to terrible (Funimation) within the space of one day, as opposed to the US where there were many reruns of the Ocean dub episodes 1-53 before Funimation came in with their Texas based dub.
I actually agree with you on this statement. I thought the edited-to-pieces Ocean dub of seasons 1 and 2 was better than FUNimation's season 3 dub.

RazorX wrote: I think Australia also didn't have a break between the Ocean and Funi dubs.
Sorry, can't help you there. I think I was too young to remember. (* *;)
In a way, the editing may have helped the dub reach the point it did, if the 14 or so episodes worth content were not cut out, the Saban/Ocean dub might not have even reached the Ginyu force, if that was to be the case, then in a strange way it's a good thing the content was cut out, otherwise we might not have heard the Ginyu voices or the epic performance of Drummond as Vegeta against Reccomme.

I would be surprised if Australia had numerous reruns of Ocean episodes 1-53 before moving on, (unless Cartooon Network Australia did it deliberately) I think Australia received DBZ in around a similar timeframe as the English dub in UK and certain European countries.

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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by LeprikanGT » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:17 pm

I don't like that Nicktoons took a break at all, let alone too late. I wouldn't have minded so much if maybe they did it right after the Vegeta fight but since there was so many episodes to re-show, I'm a bit tired of seeing the Saiyan saga all over again. I want the chance to catch up the the JP airing, or atleast get to some SS action.

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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by ThunderPX » Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:01 pm

RazorX wrote:
ThunderPX wrote:
RazorX wrote:The first break was after Freeza transformed for the second time.
I don't recall.
DBZ aired straight up to the episode "Frieza's Second Transformation" before stopping for a break and going into reruns. So for people in the UK and Netherlands, the dub went from brilliant (Ocean) to terrible (Funimation) within the space of one day, as opposed to the US where there were many reruns of the Ocean dub episodes 1-53 before Funimation came in with their Texas based dub.

I think Australia also didn't have a break between the Ocean and Funi dubs.
Are you sure that's how it went in the Netherlands? The first time I remember seeing reruns was just before the Androids were supposed to show up--and when we finally got those episodes, it switched back to the Ocean dub. After that, I remember them getting all the way up to the announcement of the Cell Games before more reruns, after which I gave up and just started watching US episodes online. Besides, that episode seems like a very strange cutoff point.
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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by RazorX » Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:13 pm

I remember the cutoff just after Trunks gave Goku the news, I also remember the cutoff when Cell told Trunks about his proposal of the Cell Games. And I remember the Freeza's second transformation cutoff, that was the first one.

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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:55 am

RazorX wrote: In a way, the editing may have helped the dub reach the point it did, if the 14 or so episodes worth content were not cut out, the Saban/Ocean dub might not have even reached the Ginyu force, if that was to be the case, then in a strange way it's a good thing the content was cut out, otherwise we might not have heard the Ginyu voices or the epic performance of Drummond as Vegeta against Reccomme.
But if they didn't cut those episodes out, they would've reached the Ginyū Tokusentai anyway.

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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by SaiyamanMS » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:43 am

I believe what RazorX is saying is that if they straight up dubbed the first 53 episodes without cutting any out and switched to the in-house cast with episode 54 rather than episode 68, they wouldn't have reached the Ginyu Force with the Ocean cast. (I believe they debut in episode 61?)

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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:50 am

SaiyamanMS wrote:I believe what RazorX is saying is that if they straight up dubbed the first 53 episodes without cutting any out and switched to the in-house cast with episode 54 rather than episode 68, they wouldn't have reached the Ginyu Force with the Ocean cast. (I believe they debut in episode 61?)
Oh, I understand now.

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Re: Do you think Nicktoons will give Kai a break?

Post by ohaimynameiserik » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:20 pm

One week, yahoo!!

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