Dragon Box 3 discussion

[pjay]

VegettoEX are you gonna review the Dragon Box Z 3?

People have been asking me, and I'm not really sure why... there ain't a whole lot for me to say about it that would be different from the first two . I tried to come up with a fun little "Top 5" list in the two that I did, and I'm sure I'd do the same for the third... but each review is just going to get shorter and shorter as they come out, since all the tech details and such remain exactly the same for each set.

I'd like to, and I probably will... but if I'm going to do it... it's not something I'll tackle until at least next month.

Well maybe in the review talk about the Macroblocking in certain parts of the Frezza fight and if it was any better in the Region 2 version. I mean it's a great DVD release, but better care should have been taken with these parts.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

VegettoEX are you gonna review the Dragon Box Z 3?

People have been asking me, and I'm not really sure why... there ain't a whole lot for me to say about it that would be different from the first two . I tried to come up with a fun little "Top 5" list in the two that I did, and I'm sure I'd do the same for the third... but each review is just going to get shorter and shorter as they come out, since all the tech details and such remain exactly the same for each set.

I'd like to, and I probably will... but if I'm going to do it... it's not something I'll tackle until at least next month.

Well maybe in the review talk about the Macroblocking in certain parts of the Frezza fight and if it was any better in the Region 2 version. I mean it's a great DVD release, but better care should have been taken with these parts.

The original Japanese DVD even had those, so it's no surprise. even in Kai it's still look like that.

[pjay]

It did? Oh well nm then.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

It did? Oh well nm then.

It's an old show, what did you expect?

[Metalwario64]

It did? Oh well nm then.

It's an old show, what did you expect?

It has more to do with the raw speed and intensity of the action the show contains, which makes it very hard to compress. Granted, the grain and texture of the film doesn't help things, but doesn't make much of a difference either, as the orange bricks have shown (which has the same mosquito noise and macroblocking during the same scenes as the American Dragon Box).

Even then, there were instances in the American Dragon Box where there were compression artifacts not present in the Japanese one, such as the scene were Fri­eza escapes from Goku's Kamehameha before he drives him into the ground. It's to be expected due to the fact that is a re-compressed, re-encoded copy of the film, and not a 1:1 duplicate. The new Fist of The North Star has similar compression issues, that, like with the Dragon Boxes, are not very prominent, or noticeable except for the most high-paced action scenes.

Also, the Kai Blu-rays shouldn't have the same compression as the American Dragon Box DVDs.

[Great Saiyaman I]

It did? Oh well nm then.

It's an old show, what did you expect?

So? The macroblocking is not because of old age. It's due to compressing the dual layer discs of the Japanese Dragon Boxes onto the single layer discs of the FUNimation Dragon Boxes. I'm pretty sure the Japanese Dragon Boxes didn't have the same macroblocking issues.

EDIT: Shoot, beat me to it.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

I'm pretty sure the Japanese Dragon Boxes didn't have the same macroblocking issues.

No! it has the same problem, it already discussed in this topic.

[jjgp1112]

It did? Oh well nm then.

It's an old show, what did you expect?

So? The macroblocking is not because of old age. It's due to compressing the dual layer discs of the Japanese Dragon Boxes onto the single layer discs of the FUNimation Dragon Boxes. I'm pretty sure the Japanese Dragon Boxes didn't have the same macroblocking issues.

EDIT: Shoot, beat me to it.

What? The English DBoxes use Dual Layered Discs, too. It would be impossible to squeeze that many episodes on a single layered disc without it looking like pure shit.

[Great Saiyaman I]

I'm pretty sure the Japanese Dragon Boxes didn't have the same macroblocking issues.

No! it has the same problem, it already discussed in this topic.

No, I mean the FUNimation DBoxes has a few more macroblocking instances than the Japanese ones.

What? The English DBoxes use Dual Layered Discs, too. It would be impossible to squeeze that many episodes on a single layered disc without it looking like pure shit.

Whoops, misread something. It's still due to compression, but I put the wrong thing there. My mistake.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

I'm pretty sure the Japanese Dragon Boxes didn't have the same macroblocking issues.

No! it has the same problem, it already discussed in this topic.

No, I mean the FUNimation DBoxes has a few more macroblocking instances than the Japanese ones.

Not very different thought, there's almost no different at all.
@Metalwario64 even thought there not using the same compression as FUNi's Dragon Box Z, it still look like that.

[MysticPiccolo]

Shoot, I just got the Season 4 and 5 Orange Bricks. I think I'm going to have to start getting the Dragon Boxes.

[pjay]

It did? Oh well nm then.

It's an old show, what did you expect?

It has more to do with the raw speed and intensity of the action the show contains, which makes it very hard to compress. Granted, the grain and texture of the film doesn't help things, but doesn't make much of a difference either, as the orange bricks have shown (which has the same mosquito noise and macroblocking during the same scenes as the American Dragon Box).

Even then, there were instances in the American Dragon Box where there were compression artifacts not present in the Japanese one, such as the scene were Fri­eza escapes from Goku's Kamehameha before he drives him into the ground. It's to be expected due to the fact that is a re-compressed, re-encoded copy of the film, and not a 1:1 duplicate. The new Fist of The North Star has similar compression issues, that, like with the Dragon Boxes, are not very prominent, or noticeable except for the most high-paced action scenes.

Also, the Kai Blu-rays shouldn't have the same compression as the American Dragon Box DVDs.

Ah yes, but unlike the US Dragon Box, The Fist of the North Star Series collection they probably won't have to worry about putting the English dub on anything but the first volume, (ep.001-036) because that is where they stopped dubbing the series into English, therefore they can use the available space for better video and audio encoding.

[Metalwario64]

Ah yes, but unlike the US Dragon Box, The Fist of the North Star Series collection they probably won't have to worry about putting the English dub on anything but the first volume, (ep.001-036) because that is where they stopped dubbing the series into English.

Yup, so hopefully the next sets will have less compression.

[pjay]

Ah yes, but unlike the US Dragon Box, The Fist of the North Star Series collection they probably won't have to worry about putting the English dub on anything but the first volume, (ep.001-036) because that is where they stopped dubbing the series into English.

Yup, so hopefully the next sets will have less compression.

Not that the US Dragon Box encoding (even vol. 3) is anything to sneeze at.

[Budogenkai]

Just finished Box 3 and now I really want 4.

I hope to god we get some extra's or something too. That would be the bee's-knee's.

[Dragon Ball Freak]

Do the Dragonbox Releases Have Alternative Angles?

[SonGokuGT]

Do the Dragonbox Releases Have Alternative Angles?

Nope, Japanese only.

[Vegeta1984]

My Dragon Box Z Vol. 3 arrived from right stuf Friday. Only took three days to get to my house from the time I ordered it... I watched the first disc.. Totally awesome.... I can't wait for Dragon Box Z vol. 4. I don't have DBox Z 1 so I'm kinda stumped on what I should order vol. 4 or 1 next month.... If I ordered vol. 4 on the 3rd of next month would I get it early???

[Greenman]

If I ordered vol. 4 on the 3rd of next month would I get it early???

Right Stuf shipped the first three Dragon Boxes about two weeks early. With a September 14th release date, Box Four may ship somewhere around the 1st. If that's the case, you may get it a few days after other pre-orders, but you'd likely get it before the release date.

And there's no guarantee that Right Stuf will ship early at all, but given their past history with Dragon Ball products, I'd bet on it.

[Vegeta1984]

If I ordered vol. 4 on the 3rd of next month would I get it early???

Right Stuf shipped the first three Dragon Boxes about two weeks early. With a September 14th release date, Box Four may ship somewhere around the 1st. If that's the case, you may get it a few days after other pre-orders, but you'd likely get it before the release date.

And there's no guarantee that Right Stuf will ship early at all, but given their past history with Dragon Ball products, I'd bet on it.

Ok cool thanks.... If it doesn't ship early two weeks really isn't gonna kill me. So I think I will order Vol. 4 on the 3rd.