Best Fighter?

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Best Fighter?

Post by Ussj Future Trunks » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:38 am

Who was the best/most skilled fighter of the villains?
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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by hleV » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:05 am

Cell.

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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:14 am

hleV wrote:Cell.
Agree.

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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by Rory » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:21 am

Goku could fight 1-1 with Cell, despite a massive power disadvantage.

Goku.
EDIT: Didn't read topic title, lol.
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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:25 am

Rory wrote:Goku could fight 1-1 with Cell, despite a massive power disadvantage.

Goku.
I think when Cell fight Goku, he's not serious.

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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by Bussani » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:46 am

Rory wrote:Goku.
Goku isn't a villain...

I'd probably say Cell, too. He's actually pretty smart and skilled. Out of the villains that follow him, Buu with Piccolo absorbed might have taken the prize...if not for the fact he thought a smokescreen would stop someone who can sense ki from attacking him.
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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by Dayspring » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:52 am

Bussani wrote:
Rory wrote:Goku.
Goku isn't a villain...

I'd probably say Cell, too. He's actually pretty smart and skilled. Out of the villains that follow him, Buu with Piccolo absorbed might have taken the prize...if not for the fact he thought a smokescreen would stop someone who can sense ki from attacking him.
I'd say the version of Piccolo Boo where Goten and Trunks are removed from him would be the most skilled. Boo-era Piccolo is pretty much flat-out stated to be the smartest fighter. Add Super Boo's strength to that and remove Goten and Trunks' stupidity and you get someone on par with Cell who is both stronger and less impulsive.
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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by Kid Buu » Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:09 pm

Bussani wrote:
Rory wrote:Goku.
Goku isn't a villain...

I'd probably say Cell, too. He's actually pretty smart and skilled. Out of the villains that follow him, Buu with Piccolo absorbed might have taken the prize...if not for the fact he thought a smokescreen would stop someone who can sense ki from attacking him.
Absorbing Gohan lowered his IQ. :lol:

Does anyone think of Saiyan/Namek era Vegeta as an intelligent villain?
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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by LeprikanGT » Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:58 pm

Buu has the best defense of ANY villian we have seen. He was shot through multimple times, blown into a billion pieces, blew himself up repeatedly, and just came back for more.

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Post by Godo » Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:17 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Buu has the best defense of ANY villian we have seen. He was shot through multimple times, blown into a billion pieces, blew himself up repeatedly, and just came back for more.
That doesn't make him a good fighter, though.
Broly had a good defense too but was more of a stupid brawler.

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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by Lucas Abner » Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:45 pm

The Boo was very powerful, Broly is also very strong ... more is crazy,as Majin hirudergarn,Goku wins this one with only one special attack,the Dragon fist

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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:30 pm

Super Boo 1.5>Cell>Tao>Freeza
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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by Dayspring » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:54 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Does anyone think of Saiyan/Namek era Vegeta as an intelligent villain?
Fuck yeah! Look how easily he picked up how to control his ki and sense other people's presence with it! He's all "It's possible? Then I'll do it to!" Didn't it take Goku months or even years of being taught to learn how to do this? Then he's a frickin' strategist on Namek, eliminating all the heavy hitters and outsmarting Zarbon and Freeza. I take it back: my vote goes to Vegeta.
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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by hleV » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:08 pm

I don't think being good fighter means being good at planing how to eliminate your foes and complete the objective but how you fight. Vegeta only had the advantage because of constant Zenkais which increased his Battle Power.

I think the thread is about which villain fights the best, which includes fighting techniques, etc. Who would win if Battle Powers were the same.
That's why I voted for Cell. He has cells of all the best fighters in the universe.

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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by Ussj Future Trunks » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:06 pm

Namek Vegeta was a genius. And Gohan Buu managed to get the drop on Vegetto by turning him into candy. Vegetto wasn't expecting that.
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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by Zephyr » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:07 pm

Ussj Future Trunks wrote:Namek Vegeta was a genius. And Gohan Buu managed to get the drop on Vegetto by turning him into candy. Vegetto wasn't expecting that.
Buu also wasn't anticipating how utterly horrible of an idea that was.

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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by Ussj Future Trunks » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:17 am

No...how could he? It's like expecting a computer to start backchatting you and telling you it doesn't want to print this assignment.
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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by Kingdom Heartless » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:25 am

Buu also wasn't anticipating how utterly horrible of an idea that was.
But we don't really know if Vegetto was aware he could still fight after being changed. I'd guess he didn't, and was only lucky. Of course that luck was based on ridiculous power. :P
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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by Zephyr » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:34 am

Only a terrible tactician would underestimate the depths and ridiculousness of Vegetto's power. :lol:

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Re: Best Fighter?

Post by Hoppey » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:22 pm

While I agree that both Cell and early DBZ Vegeta were both skilled fighters my vote would probably go to Piccolo or Majunior during the 23rd Budokai. The guy managed to fight Goku the greatest fighter on Earth dead evenly and almost killed him plus he was smart enough to take into account that one of the fighters at the tornament might use the Mafuba and managed to create a technique to overcome that major weakness.

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