New Freeza Talkback

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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by Rory » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:25 am

Although the footage of Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans is the 'big' selling point for the game, I'll most likely be picking up Raging Blast 2 for Ayres. :)

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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by Ahiru77 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:06 pm

Just saw "Vermin!!" and it's alright. It didn't really send shivers down my spine, but it's okay. Maybe he sounds scarier when just talking normally. :|

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Post by jjgp1112 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:26 pm

Ahiru77 wrote:Just saw "Vermin!!" and it's alright. It didn't really send shivers down my spine, but it's okay. Maybe he sounds scarier when just talking normally. :|
He does. Way creepier. Just watch the episode where he attacks the Namek village.
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by MR.Mark » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:50 pm

Ayres Freeza is so phenomenal I actually would line up for his autograph at an anime con, he really has made the role of Freeza in English a definitive one, same could be said for Gohan. However it's Ayres Freeza which I feel will really stick with me when I look back when this dub is finished. He really matches one of Toriyama's most brilliantly designed characters and no other voice could ever go hand in hand with his elegant dialogue. He really is Ryusei Nakao's English equivalent, and yes his "vermin" line was epic.

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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by Ahiru77 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:07 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Ahiru77 wrote:Just saw "Vermin!!" and it's alright. It didn't really send shivers down my spine, but it's okay. Maybe he sounds scarier when just talking normally. :|
He does. Way creepier. Just watch the episode where he attacks the Namek village.
*Just watched episode 21*

I....he.....it's.....:|

I think it just sounds like an older version of Linda's. I find it not so scary, but i do find that Frieza is easily the greatest villain of all time. Of that I'm sure. 8)

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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by Puto » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:52 pm

He sucked in his first appearance. It's like they were deliberately faking us out. Watch the next episode.
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by linkdude20002001 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:15 pm

Ahiru77 wrote:*Just watched episode 21*

I....he.....it's.....:|

I think it just sounds like an older version of Linda's. I find it not so scary, but i do find that Freeza is easily the greatest villain of all time. Of that I'm sure. 8)
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by Ahiru77 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:26 pm

OKAY DUDES....>:D

I watched episodes 22 & 33. Chris rocks as Freeza. I'm not scared to death though. >_>
Still love Linda's version. :)

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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:30 pm

Linda Young's Freeza definitely scares me... but for all of the wrong reasons.
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by Metalwario64 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:54 pm

Ahiru77 wrote:I'm not scared to death though. >_>
Why are you and other people expecting to be scared by his voice? It's not his voice that's supposed to be scary, it's the fact that he's basically committing genocide on the Namekians, all the while keeping a calm and cool demeanor about it, as though he's simply conducting business as usual. Not to mention his polite, pompous attitude he keeps (and then loses entirely, such as as the end of 33, which was always completely lost on the dub of Z).

Even then, I'm pretty sure he's not supposed to be "haunting" or "nightmare-inducing", maybe just a bit creepy.
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by Ahiru77 » Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:45 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
Ahiru77 wrote:I'm not scared to death though. >_>
Why are you and other people expecting to be scared by his voice? It's not his voice that's supposed to be scary, it's the fact that he's basically committing genocide on the Namekians, all the while keeping a calm and cool demeanor about it, as though he's simply conducting business as usual. Not to mention his polite, pompous attitude he keeps (and then loses entirely, such as as the end of 33, which was always completely lost on the dub of Z).

Even then, I'm pretty sure he's not supposed to be "haunting" or "nightmare-inducing", maybe just a bit creepy.
Because of Sean Schemmel. He was al like "It's actually really scary now" or something like that. Yeah, I also think he's just supposed to be a bit creepy.

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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by Metalwario64 » Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:49 pm

Ahiru77 wrote:He was al like "It's actually really scary now" or something like that.
Oh yeah, him and Sabat both were going on about that... I wonder if they were truly scared by it, or if that was just them trying to convince dub fans to support their decision to recast Fri­eza? I mean, some people are claiming to be frightened by his voice, but I just don't get it.
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:12 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
Ahiru77 wrote:He was al like "It's actually really scary now" or something like that.
Oh yeah, him and Sabat both were going on about that... I wonder if they were truly scared by it, or if that was just them trying to convince dub fans to support their decision to recast Fri­eza? I mean, some people are claiming to be frightened by his voice, but I just don't get it.
Well, strictly speaking they didn't use the word "scary," they used the word, "creepy." I don't know how many of you are familiar with a guy called "The Nostalgia Critic," (if you're not you should be, he's hilarious, check his videos), but he actually used both those words to compare the two different actors to play the Joker in the Batman movies. He said that Jack Nicholson's Joker was more "creepy," but that Heath Ledger's Joker was actually "scary." He made a point to emphasize the difference. Anyway, not to detract from Dragon Ball too much, my point is that they're different words with different feelings associated with them.

That's how I think of Ryusei Nakao's performance, personally. Nakao's performance is the one performance in the sub version that I absolutely love. I would say he's more creepy than scary, myself. Then again, almost nothing scares me in movies or TV shows anymore. I haven't seen what I consider to be a really scary movie in a really long time.

So, I haven't been particularly scared, but then again, like Metalwario64 said, some people have been. Ayers is sufficiently creepy enough for me, so...I'm sold. I'd say I still like Nakao a little bit better, but I love Ayers to the point where I still find myself actively looking forward to future dub episodes just to hear his performance.
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:18 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote:they used the word, "creepy."
Oh, yeah. It's been a while since I've seen it so I wasn't sure. Well, nice to see that they were just calling it creepy. Though, as stated, I don't think the voice itself is creepy (as Schemmel seemed to imply), but a combination of the voice, and the character.
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:49 am

Okay, so I'm bumping this somewhat-old thread because there is indeed some relevant new information. Apparently what some people were predicting will come to pass: Chris Ayers will be lowering his voice a little bit with each progressive transformation. He reveals this to be the case and gives a demonstration of the upcoming voices for Freeza's different forms (including Mecha Freeza) here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-stVXvGpMas

Thanks to Ishtar318 for finding this!
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by Cootie » Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:55 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote:Okay, so I'm bumping this somewhat-old thread because there is indeed some relevant new information. Apparently what some people were predicting will come to pass: Chris Ayers will be lowering his voice a little bit with each progressive transformation. He reveals this to be the case and gives a demonstration of the upcoming voices for Freeza's different forms (including Mecha Freeza) here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-stVXvGpMas

Thanks to Ishtar318 for finding this!
Around which time mark does he begin showing those voices?
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by nathantheguitarist » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:43 pm

Almost the end, at about 11:15.

4th form and mecha go back to being higher, and the 3rd form will be the same as 2nd form but pitched down so he has enough room for range is his voice. Neat stuff. :mrgreen:
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by Ahiru77 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:51 pm

Yeah great stuff. I can't wait till they get to Mecha Freeza....in about 20 years.

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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:05 pm

Ahiru77 wrote:Yeah great stuff. I can't wait till they get to Mecha Freeza....in about 20 years.
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:05 am

I admit that I wasn't very familiar with Chris's work before DBZ Kai (despite being more familiar with his brother Greg's work), but after seeing his performance and listening to his interviews, I'm really starting to like him. He really sounds like someone who's very dedicated to the craft of acting. He really won me over after he started talking about how he has a background in Shakespearean theater and that he loves language-heavy roles...which is perfect for Freeza. I'm not saying he now has a free pass to do whatever he wants in the role, I'm just saying that his performance has won me over enough that now I will be more inclined to check out new animes if he's in it.
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