4Kids Confirms DBZ:Kai on CW4Kids Block and Possible Editing

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Re: 4Kids Confirms DBZ:Kai on CW4Kids Block and Possible Editing

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:14 am

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:11 am

JulieYBM wrote:With the way One Piece ended up, I wonder what will happen to Mr. Popo. :sweat:
I don't think 4kids will go to all the trouble to "white out" Mr. Popo, every time he appears. It's just too much work.

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Post by PuppetDoctor » Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:12 am

JulieYBM wrote:With the way One Piece ended up, I wonder what will happen to Mr. Popo. :sweat:
Maybe they will somehow remove Mr. Popo's lips or something but really I doubt they will bother editing it. I wonder how they (4Kids) will edit the show when Tenshinhan loses his arm.

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Re: 4Kids Confirms DBZ:Kai on CW4Kids Block and Possible Editing

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:43 am

Why do they censored Mr.Popo's lips?

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Post by Innagadadavida » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:01 am

Goku100xKamehameha wrote:Why do they censored Mr.Popo's lips?
You are using the wrong tenses. "Do" is present tense and "censored" is past tense. Neither of which are right. You want to use future tense since it hasn't happened yet. "Why would they censor Mr. Popo's lips." That is the correct way of saying what you meant.

The answer is because his character design is based on an old racist stereotype. The dark skin and thick lips was a mask or facepainting designed to make fun of black people. Popo's lips might be censored to prevent people from seeing it and being offended. It's to protect the network from lawsuits I guess.

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Re: 4Kids Confirms DBZ:Kai on CW4Kids Block and Possible Editing

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:20 am

I actually referring to CN's run of DBZ that censored Mr.Popo's lips but I know I do not make myself clear. so.... yeah.

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Post by Innagadadavida » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:24 am

Goku100xKamehameha wrote:I actually referring to CN, the company that I believe censored Mr.Popo's lips but I know I do not make myself clear. so.... yeah.
Okay, well first of all, yes, you need to specify. Nobody else was talking about the same thing you were. They were all talking about how his lips might be censored. You just hopped in and started talking about something else without telling us what it was. Secondly, that does not make your sentance correct.

If you were talking about an event that already happened. Your sentance should say "Why did they censor Mr. Popo's lips?"

Also, if you were talking about Cartoon Network, no they did not censor Popo's lips.

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Re: 4Kids Confirms DBZ:Kai on CW4Kids Block and Possible Editing

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:28 am

Innagadadavida wrote:
Goku100xKamehameha wrote:I actually referring to CN, the company that I believe censored Mr.Popo's lips but I know I do not make myself clear. so.... yeah.
Okay, well first of all, yes, you need to specify. Nobody else was talking about the same thing you were. They were all talking about how his lips might be censored. You just hopped in and started talking about something else without telling us what it was. Secondly, that does not make your sentance correct.

If you were talking about an event that already happened. Your sentance should say "Why did they censor Mr. Pope's lips?"

Also, if you were talking about Cartoon Network, no they did not censor Popo's lips.
So who did?
Innagadadavida wrote:Why did they censor Mr. Pope's lips?
I already knew about that! no need to tell me!
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Re: 4Kids Confirms DBZ:Kai on CW4Kids Block and Possible Editing

Post by TripleRach » Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:30 pm

Goku100xKamehameha wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:Also, if you were talking about Cartoon Network, no they did not censor Popo's lips.
So who did?
Viz censored his lips in their English release of the manga. But so far, no one has censored his lips in the anime.
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Re: 4Kids Confirms DBZ:Kai on CW4Kids Block and Possible Editing

Post by xzero » Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:59 pm

I would imagine that at this point, Mr. Popo's character design is just sort of cemented on American television to the extent that no one minds his *ahem* background.

I also think they'll keep the Vic Mignogna version of Dragon Soul as the intro song. As far as edits are concerned, I just don't think that it'll be as bad as the Saban-era edits. That could be completely wrong and optimistic--and it's not like I'll actually be watching that block, so I don't personally care--but I wonder how much, if any input Funimation will have in the edits made. Funi seems pretty set on keeping even the edited versions at a high level of quality, so it may have some bargaining power over the ultimate edits made for the CW airing. But of course, as the 4Kids guy indicated in the interview (which was really good and extremely interesting), the network rules the day when it comes to edits.

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Re: 4Kids Confirms DBZ:Kai on CW4Kids Block and Possible Editing

Post by Super Sonic » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:24 pm

Regarding Popo, since it's been awhile, they might not be scared of that crazy black lady who originally made them do such things anymore. Come to think of it, would you guys say the violence level in tv version of Kai is about the same as it is in TMNT? If it is, folks might not have to worry so much. Then again, US stuff tends to get away with things anime can't often.

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Re: 4Kids Confirms DBZ:Kai on CW4Kids Block and Possible Editing

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:36 am

Saban didn't censor Mr. Popo's lips, so I doubt 4kids will. But then again, it is 4kids we're talking about here.

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Re: 4Kids Confirms DBZ:Kai on CW4Kids Block and Possible Editing

Post by ohaimynameiserik » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:25 am

Innagadadavida wrote:
Goku100xKamehameha wrote:I actually referring to CN, the company that I believe censored Mr.Popo's lips but I know I do not make myself clear. so.... yeah.
Okay, well first of all, yes, you need to specify. Nobody else was talking about the same thing you were. They were all talking about how his lips might be censored. You just hopped in and started talking about something else without telling us what it was. Secondly, that does not make your sentance correct.

If you were talking about an event that already happened. Your sentance should say "Why did they censor Mr. Popo's lips?"

Also, if you were talking about Cartoon Network, no they did not censor Popo's lips.
And your sentences should have the word spelled sentence. :P

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Re: 4Kids Confirms DBZ:Kai on CW4Kids Block and Possible Editing

Post by xzero » Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:58 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Saban didn't censor Mr. Popo's lips, so I doubt 4kids will. But then again, it is 4kids we're talking about here.
True, but as the guy in the interview said, it's actually a call on the part of the CW network rather than 4kids as far as censorship goes. So far, the only Popo lip censorship was Viz, right?

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Re: 4Kids Confirms DBZ:Kai on CW4Kids Block and Possible Editing

Post by Cowboy Dev » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:01 pm

Tommorow: Judgement Day.
A Dragon Ball/Urusei Yatsura crossover would be awesome.
Having Toshio Furukawa balance between Piccolo and Ataru would be hilarious.

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Re: 4Kids Confirms DBZ:Kai on CW4Kids Block and Possible Editing

Post by Super Sonic » Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:31 pm

xzero wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Saban didn't censor Mr. Popo's lips, so I doubt 4kids will. But then again, it is 4kids we're talking about here.
True, but as the guy in the interview said, it's actually a call on the part of the CW network rather than 4kids as far as censorship goes. So far, the only Popo lip censorship was Viz, right?
Kinda like how 4Kids dubbed three Pokemon eps that weren't aired due to Nintendo's interference. Sometimes it's more to do with higher-ups than those directly doing things for why stuff get's changed.

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Re: 4Kids Confirms DBZ:Kai on CW4Kids Block and Possible Editing

Post by SaiyamanMS » Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:40 pm

Super Sonic wrote:Kinda like how 4Kids dubbed three Pokemon eps that weren't aired due to Nintendo's interference. Sometimes it's more to do with higher-ups than those directly doing things for why stuff get's changed.
I assume you're referring to episodes 18, 35 and 38? Nintendo had nothing to do with that. 4Kids didn't do the first two due to inflatable boobs and guns, and the third was because of the freakin' seizures that almost got the show canceled in Japan.

Episode 18 was later dubbed with the boobies cut out, but episode 35 was never dubbed in any capacity. (It was however said by Maddie Blaustien that episode 38 was dubbed and simply not aired.)

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Post by Innagadadavida » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:15 am

Jesuschristwhatthefuck. Worst. Promotional. Ad. EVER.

Aside from the terribly cut audio samples "KAME-HAAAAAAAAAA", absolutely incomprehensible selection of video (Bubbles has the most screentime in this promo), terrible CG Dragon Balls, and just not letting the audience know what the fuck is going on or why they should watch this show, it's an acceptable promo.

Who put this together? They should be fired. This is beyond awful. This is an embarrassment. It's entirely too obvious that whoever put that together has no goddamn clue what they're doing or what the show is about.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:20 am

Innagadadavida wrote:Jesuschristwhatthefuck. Worst. Promotional. Ad. EVER.

Aside from the terribly cut audio samples "KAME-HAAAAAAAAAA", absolutely incomprehensible selection of video (Bubbles has the most screentime in this promo), terrible CG Dragon Balls, and just not letting the audience know what the fuck is going on or why they should watch this show, it's an acceptable promo.

Who put this together? They should be fired. This is beyond awful. This is an embarrassment. It's entirely too obvious that whoever put that together has no goddamn clue what they're doing or what the show is about.
It shows how censored it will be. During Goku's death scene, only footage of Bubbles will be shown! :lol:
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Re: 4Kids Confirms DBZ:Kai on CW4Kids Block and Possible Editing

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:29 am

Innagadadavida wrote:Jesuschristwhatthefuck. Worst. Promotional. Ad. EVER.

Aside from the terribly cut audio samples "KAME-HAAAAAAAAAA", absolutely incomprehensible selection of video (Bubbles has the most screentime in this promo), terrible CG Dragon Balls, and just not letting the audience know what the fuck is going on or why they should watch this show, it's an acceptable promo.

Who put this together? They should be fired. This is beyond awful. This is an embarrassment. It's entirely too obvious that whoever put that together has no goddamn clue what they're doing or what the show is about.
Eh, 7-year old kids won't really care.

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