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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by SHINOBI-03 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:14 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Why am I getting a Freddie Wong feel from this Yamcha? :p
Does that makes Kuririn So Hai :P ?!

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Post by coola » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:18 pm

At last there is a chance,that Yamucha wont get kick out from tournament after 1st fight :P
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TrunksTrevelyan0064 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:11 pm

Well this is a pleasant surprise. Go Yamcha!

Oh, and someone had a theory that Kuririn may have fused with Kamesennin, and that's why he looks so old.
I guess that's possible. He's not wearing any Potara, but he could simply have taken them off.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by mysticboy » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:36 pm

TrunksTrevelyan0064 wrote:Well, it's kinda odd that someone 3 years younger than him has grey/white hair, yet his is still black.

I almost want to say Kuririn spent like 10 years in the RoSaT, but as far as I know that's impossible.
Maybe Yamcha wished his youth back.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dayspring » Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:28 pm

My theory on the age thing is that Krillin did overstay the 24-hr limit in ROSAT. After a week or so outside, Yamcha and co used the DBs to transfer him out of the ROSAT.

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:26 pm

I think Yamcha is a pretty cool guy. He fights Androids.......



But in all not-so seriousness, if he wins this fight, Yamcha fans everywhere will be able to say that he actually acheived something meaningful. :P

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:11 pm

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kaboom » Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:50 pm

Now THIS is the stuff I like to see in this fancomic. Glad we're taking a break from Broly for the time being.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Maphisto86 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:07 am

I got a laugh while reading one of the comments.
Gelsamel wrote:I bet Yamacha's going to die from a Self Destruct again. Either that or everything will collapse into a giant black hole after he wins. No matter what happens, he must lose.
Well Yamcha winning is a mathamatical and physical paradox which would rupture the space time continuum. :P In all seriousness though I do hope Yamcha can pull it off . Poor dude is the most maligned character in all of Dragonball. :(

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Post by Xyex » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:18 am

I love Yamcha being awesome, but Gogeta jr. has broken a physical rule of the DB universe! Yamcha MUST fight one of the major characters of a new saga and MUST get his ass kicked! ("Jackie Chun", Tien, Shen, Saibamen, Android 20.) The universe DEMANDS it! :lol:

But yes, w00t, go Yamcha!

I wanna know what these humans have gone through to be able to stand up against 18 like this, though.
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Post by Ussj Future Trunks » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:49 am

Returning from a crashed computer and this chapter is one of the best yet! Namek talking for once, Zangya bowing out, Yamcha vs 18 (Yamcha will win this but lose next match against zen Buu if tradition repeats itself. Might bust out a Kaioken in this fight) but whats happening in space? I want Bra.

My guess is they went through ROSAT, supreme kai and gravity training. Since they were apparently able to fight off Babidi and Dabura.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Puto » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:18 am

Maphisto86 wrote:I got a laugh while reading one of the comments.
Gelsamel wrote:I bet Yamacha's going to die from a Self Destruct again. Either that or everything will collapse into a giant black hole after he wins. No matter what happens, he must lose.
Well Yamcha winning is a mathamatical and physical paradox which would rupture the space time continuum. :P In all seriousness though I do hope Yamcha can pull it off . Poor dude is the most maligned character in all of Dragonball. :(
Chaoz gets it worse. He never won a single on-screen fight throughout the entire series. Not even against unnamed characters.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Maphisto86 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:58 am

Puto wrote:
Maphisto86 wrote:I got a laugh while reading one of the comments.
Gelsamel wrote:I bet Yamacha's going to die from a Self Destruct again. Either that or everything will collapse into a giant black hole after he wins. No matter what happens, he must lose.
Well Yamcha winning is a mathamatical and physical paradox which would rupture the space time continuum. :P In all seriousness though I do hope Yamcha can pull it off . Poor dude is the most maligned character in all of Dragonball. :(
Chaoz gets it worse. He never won a single on-screen fight throughout the entire series. Not even against unnamed characters.
Oh yeah . . poor Chaozu. You would think a undead midget with telepathic superpowers would rule the world but little Chaozu is pretty much the useless sidekick in the story. :( Heck, he is not even present in this fancomic! :shock: Well as far as I can see . . . he should have showed up if he was with the rest of the gang from U#09.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Godo » Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:31 am

I demand a special that depicts the lives of Yamcha, Kuririn and Tenshinhan, and how they got that strong!

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Post by TonyTheTiger » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:19 am

Ussj Future Trunks wrote:Returning from a crashed computer and this chapter is one of the best yet! Namek talking for once, Zangya bowing out, Yamcha vs 18 (Yamcha will win this but lose next match against zen Buu if tradition repeats itself. Might bust out a Kaioken in this fight) but whats happening in space? I want Bra.

My guess is they went through ROSAT, supreme kai and gravity training. Since they were apparently able to fight off Babidi and Dabura.
But did they even train with King Kai? If they managed to beat Nappa and Vegeta there's no way they all could have been killed leaving only Krillin and maybe Piccolo to take them both down. I figure without Goku they just stepped up their game and worked that much harder. So by the time saiyans showed up they were able to handle it. The problem isn't really the androids. The problem is Freeza.

I can envision a situation where they got strong enough to stand up to #18 on the assumption that they had already beaten Freeza. At that point in the story there wasn't a whole lot of explanation of the power growth anyway. Even the saiyans just operated by "moar training = moar power" or on rare occasions "new transformation = moar power." Replacing Goku and Vegeta with Krillin and Yamcha doesn't really change things too much if we assume that the humans actually had that kind of power potential given enough effort. But that's assuming they already got through Freeza which I can't wrap my head around considering the fact that Goku specifically being a saiyan was a major plot point and apparently a necessary detail for both his defeat of the Ginyu Force and Freeza himself.

That being said, I'm loving this. If Yamcha doesn't win I'm going to cry. The humans and the evil saiyans are my favorite groups.

But I don't like all these characters leaving. I liked Universe 10, for instance. And I would have liked to see more of Zangya.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Godo » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:25 pm

One interesting thing we can put into this, though, is that in the original timeline, when the humans did the same training Goku did, they got much stronger than Goku managed to get doing the same thing.
Maybe by not giving up training, they got stronger, just like our friend Tony here says.

Another point I think people have missed is that they may have learned the Kaio-ken. I mean, if Kaio didn't learn Goku that technique, he could have learned that to either one of them, or all of them.

One possible scenario I have thought out (which is by no means perfect or what Gogeta Jr. and Salagir have written, mind you), is that Kuririn went to train with Kame-sennin as normal. He met Yamcha at the tournament, and they became rivals.
Later they fought Tenshinhan and defeated him, and with the help of Kame-sennin, they won him over.
They may have fought Goku along the way and defeated him.
Traveling through the same path as Goku, the three of them fought Piccolo Daimao/only Kuririn fought Piccolo Daimao by means of drinking the holy water at Karin's tower.
Later they trained with Kami to defeat Piccolo Jr. and finally after a fierce battle.
Radditz arrived, and they all got killed. Radditz says that he will wait for Nappa and Vegeta to pick him up, since Kuririn and co. somehow destroyed his spaceship.
The guys trains at Kaio's planet, having different improvement there. They learn the Kaio-ken.
Yamcha defeated the Saibaimen, Kuririn defeated Radditz and Nappa, and Tenshinhan and Piccolo defeated Vegeta. Unfortunately, Piccolo dies, and to revive Earth's population, they have to travel to Namek.
They all survive, but they have to and travel to Namek, doing gravity training. Piccolo trains further at Kaio's planet.
Piccolo fuses with Nail, the trio gets their potential further released, and they beat the Ginyu force.
They fight Freeza, and with the help of Kaio-ken they defeat him.

Then I can't figure out the rest, because without Trunks, they won't get a warning from the future about the Androids, but chances are that they manage to train enough not to be killed by them.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:56 pm

It's possible the androids wouldn't have existed given that Dr. Gero wouldn't have had a quarrel with Goku. I suppose he could have built them to kill the humans but without Goku and Gohan there's no way the androids or Cell would have been as powerful assuming they were even created at all. It's Freeza that's the real problem because if Goku with 20x Kaioken couldn't beat Freeza, and all that after more than one zenkai, then I can't fathom how the humans could have. They wouldn't even have had Vegeta with them considering without Goku's intervention Krillin would have probably finished him on Earth. And if Piccolo was there then why isn't he part of their team now? Come to think of it, without Goku Piccolo might not even have been born.

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Post by Booney » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:32 pm

TonyTheTiger wrote:It's Freeza that's the real problem because if Goku with 20x Kaioken couldn't beat Freeza, and all that after more than one zenkai, then I can't fathom how the humans could have.
Remember that in the main universe Kuririn almost got second form Freeza with his Kienzan.
It's possible the humans beat Freeza before he achieved his full power.
Because you have to remember that humans don't have the same mindset as Saiyans.

When Vegeta heard Freeza and Cell could become stronger he let them.
The humans usually want to take care of a threat as soon as possible.
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Post by Xyex » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:30 pm

Booney wrote:
TonyTheTiger wrote:It's Freeza that's the real problem because if Goku with 20x Kaioken couldn't beat Freeza, and all that after more than one zenkai, then I can't fathom how the humans could have.
Remember that in the main universe Kuririn almost got second form Freeza with his Kienzan.
It's possible the humans beat Freeza before he achieved his full power.
Because you have to remember that humans don't have the same mindset as Saiyans.

When Vegeta heard Freeza and Cell could become stronger he let them.
The humans usually want to take care of a threat as soon as possible.
That's about the only way I could see them defeating Freeza myself. Krillin slices him in half with a Kienzan (any form of Freeza would fall to that) or Tien hits him in his first form (maybe second) with a Kikoho and obliterates him.

Piccolo's an issue, too. It's possible 'jr' was never born. Even if he was he wouldn't have become a good guy without Gohan around. I can see two ways for the Z portion of things to work in this universe.

IDEA 1: Krillin, Tien, and Yamcha are killed by Raditz before Piccolo kills him in turn. Piccolo mentions the DBs and that the three humans will be back, Raditz mentions his partners, and so the humans go to King Kai's for training and Piccolo trains solo. The three of them get revived, but too late to arrive on time, and so Piccolo's stuck fighting Nappa and Vegeta by himself for a while.

By the time the three humans return to Earth Piccolo is already dead (Kami's waiting for them in Otherworld with a halo on his head) and the two Saiya-jins are wiping out life on Earth. The three of them arrive at the battle, one of them OHKOs Nappa and the three work together to take down Vegeta.

Because so many people on Earth are dead they travel to Namek to use their DBs to revive them. All three get power-ups from Guru along the way and Freeza gets cut in half or obliterated quickly. However, as the Namekian DBs are no good at mass revivals, they're left with only the option of reviving Piccolo/Kami to restore Earth's DBs.

19 and 20 appear four years later, but Krillin manages to slice off 20's head or something, before 17 and 18 are activated (Yamcha doesn't recognize 18, after all). So that's the end of them. Then later Babidi and Dabura show up (which I believe has been implied already) and Piccolo gets Majinized in Vegeta's place.

Without Gohan and Goku around getting the energy for Buu takes much longer and Dabura's too powerful for them as is, so Kaioshin takes them all to Otherworld where the four of them, working together, pull out the Z sword. Kaioshin intends to use it himself and his training with it breaks it, and the Old Kaioshin uses his powers on all three humans.

They go back down to Earth and defeat Dabura and Majin Piccolo before Buu's got enough energy to be revived. Namek's DBs are used to revive everyone and sometime between then and DBM, Kami dies of old age, taking Piccolo with him, and so Piccolo's not at the tournament. :)

IDEA 2: Raditz never shows up on Earth because Kakarotto was never sent there, so he has no reason to go there. The humans are constantly fighting against Piccolo, and constantly training to keep up with him, and only leave him alive because of Kami and the DBs. Eventually, 19 and 20 (much much weaker than in the series) appear and kill the three humans, but are destroyed in the process.

They go to train at King Kai's so that they'll have and edge against Piccolo when they get revived. After revived things for the Buu saga unfold just as in Idea 1.
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Post by Booney » Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:09 pm

This is how I think Universe #9 went down.

Dragonball:
-It starts with Kuririn meeting Roshi and starts his training.
Eventually Bulma arrives for Roshi's Dragonball and for training Kuririn joins her as bodyguard.
This way the rest of the Z-Warriors meet like in the main universe.

-Piccolo is successfully sealed away in the ricecooker with a Mafuba.

The Saiyan Arc:
-Raditz arrives too find his little brother is dead (Roshi is reminded of Gohans tragic loss of his adoptive "grandson" falling into a ravine).
Raditz could have been killed in the same manner as in the main universe, someone grabs him from behind (let's say Yamucha) and either Kuririn throws a Kienzan (maybe too early?) or Tenshinhan fires a Dodonpa threw Raditz' chest.

The Vegeta/Nappa fight happens on Kami's Lookout.
With Kami in the picture everything about the Dragonballs and the Namekians is explained.
Because they are on the Lookout no Saibamen, so everyone is fresh and alive when the battle starts against Nappa.
Eventually the battle is won.

Now for the next bit I'm in doubt, because Kuririn mentions Coolers squad to Goku instead of Freeza.
This leads me to believe Freeza may have never shown up in Universe #9.

Instead we get,
The Coola Arc:
Freeza fails on Namek, killing all Nameks and no password means no Dragonballs and no wish.
Coola following his brothers every step gets mad for him screwing up (he wanted to step in once the wish could be made)
Freeza gets killed by his brother.
But! Coola didn't just kill him for his failure on Namek. Coola found out about Earth's Dragonballs and decides to take care of this one himself and just wanted his brother out of the picture.

Well, we already know Universe 9# won this battle because of Kuririns match against Sauza.
My guess as to how they won is that Vegeta mentioned a greater threat that is bound to come after there Dragonballs on Earth so they kept training until that day would come.


The Android Arc:
Gero is still pissed, during the Dragonball hunt with Bulma they had to have run into the Red Ribbon and defeat them so...
I guess they only had to face #19 and #20 with Yamucha not recognizing #18 at the tournament.
Once again threw teamwork they beat the two androids.

The Buu Arc:
The fighters are still into training at this point, Tenshinhan because it's his life, Kuririn because he has no reason to settle down (no #18) and even Yamucha is still training because he can still keep up with the others and still feels of use.
So things probably start at the Budokai like in the main universe.
Fights are being fought, energy is getting drained.
But even though energy is being stolen, it's not SSJ2 energy so Buu's ball isn't as full when they follow the brothers to Babidi's ship.
And with the human fighters not as eager to fight and overconfident as Saiyans are, they listen to the Kaioshin and come up with a plan.
This probably has something to do with luring Babidi out of the ship on it's own.
They succeed and kill Babidi.
Maybe a few die trying to distract Dabra or something

But with Babidi dead the Majin spells are broken.
This means all his minions start thinking for themselves again and leave.
I mean, Dabra was King of the Demon Realm or something right? So he has no interest in hanging around Earth.
So everyone else leaves and that's the end of the Buu Arc.
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