Bio Brolly Trailer...

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:46 pm

Comming Tommorow?

http://www.dragonballz.com/index2.cfm?flash=true

Adnan · Post by **Adnan** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:51 am

I'm sure they mean the teaser will be up tomorrow.

I wonder how they'll hype this film considering it's arguably the worst out of all the DBZ films.

Aurek · Post by **Aurek** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:21 am

I wonder how they'll hype this film considering it's arguably the worst out of all the DBZ films.

Its bad, but movie 8 is worse in my opinion

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:44 am

If you think 8 is worse than 11, you obviously haven't seen 11.

Adnan · Post by **Adnan** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:51 am

Aurek wrote:
I wonder how they'll hype this film considering it's arguably the worst out of all the DBZ films.
Its bad, but movie 8 is worse in my opinion

No way! How could 8 be worse than Bio-Broly?

In Bio-Broly (just like with the previous film "Broly returns" or whatever it's called), they just make a mockery of the Broly character. Also, it's full of lame jokes and a boring fight scene. Unlike Movie 10 however, there isn't a kick-ass ending to give this film a bit of value.

All in all, it's rubbish and I don't know how any other DBZ movie can be considered worse. That's *my* opinion.

Aurek · Post by **Aurek** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:41 pm

No way! How could 8 be worse than Bio-Broly?

In Bio-Broly (just like with the previous film "Broly returns" or whatever it's called), they just make a mockery of the Broly character. Also, it's full of lame jokes and a boring fight scene. Unlike Movie 10 however, there isn't a kick-ass ending to give this film a bit of value.

All in all, it's rubbish and I don't know how any other DBZ movie can be considered worse. That's *my* opinion.

Well mabye its because I saw the Dub of 8 but the origional of 10 and 11. I hated 8 because it was boring, everyone just gets owned by Broly for the entire film until 10 seconds from the end. Oh and Broly was a paper thin character even by DBZ movie standards. At least there was humour in 10 and 11, Goten and Trunks without Gotenks is always good

El_Diablo · Post by **El_Diablo** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:34 pm

The trailer is up.

It's pretty useless.

"His first battle... was tragic. His second battle... full of rage. His third battle... is for revenge."

Yeah. It's not even the same Broli.

No footage or anything from the actual movie, though

And the picture of Goku with his "Kame" gi in the background of the website section is pretty out of place as well.

Demi · Post by **Demi** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:54 pm

Movie 8 was good... apart from Brolly dying to a slow motion punch that looked like it wouldn't hurt a fly.

Adnan · Post by **Adnan** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:38 pm

Aurek wrote: Well mabye its because I saw the Dub of 8 but the origional of 10 and 11.

Well perhaps you should see the original for 8, don't you think? After all, the dub is always gonna suck you know.

I didn't like 10 or 11 'cause the fight's quite boring and there was no drama (although I did like the comic elements in 10, but the jokes were lame in 11).

Movie 10's ending is best out of the three though.

Blastero · Post by **Blastero** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:34 pm

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:12 pm

Aurek wrote:
No way! How could 8 be worse than Bio-Broly?

In Bio-Broly (just like with the previous film "Broly returns" or whatever it's called), they just make a mockery of the Broly character. Also, it's full of lame jokes and a boring fight scene. Unlike Movie 10 however, there isn't a kick-ass ending to give this film a bit of value.

All in all, it's rubbish and I don't know how any other DBZ movie can be considered worse. That's *my* opinion.
Well mabye its because I saw the Dub of 8 but the origional of 10 and 11. I hated 8 because it was boring, everyone just gets owned by Broly for the entire film until 10 seconds from the end. Oh and Broly was a paper thin character even by DBZ movie standards. At least there was humour in 10 and 11, Goten and Trunks without Gotenks is always good

Not seen 10 or 11 yet, but I liked 8. Broly's one of the most detailed movie villains created, people just expect them to be more transparent and miss some things about his character. Plus, for once, the Z Fighters get their asses handed to them.

kenisu3000 · Post by **kenisu3000** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:43 am

Blastero wrote:Why didn't they just skip this one?

Because even though it may suck (I wouldn't know, haven't seen it yet), it's still a part of the DragonBall series, whether written by Toriyama or not! And I don't want no stinkin' low-quality fansub... I want it on DVD, with translations by Steve Simmons! So there!
...Speaking of which, I wonder how Steve's going to handle the ending theme song, Dragon Power Infinity, what with the spelling out of "DRAGON" using Japanese words. That'd be difficult to translate into English, no?

Aurek · Post by **Aurek** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:29 am

Not seen 10 or 11 yet, but I liked 8. Broly's one of the most detailed movie villains created, people just expect them to be more transparent and miss some things about his character. Plus, for once, the Z Fighters get their asses handed to them.

I think we discussed this before where I disagreed. How do you mean for once they got their asses handed to them, the Z fighters getting beaten half or completly to death was a staple of DBZ.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:31 am

Yeah and how exactly is Brolly detailed? ^^

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:02 am

He's a messed up psychopath for one. And his hatred of Goku most likely can be explained by "association". Broly doesn't hate Goku ONLY because he wouldn't stop crying. Has it ever occured to you guys that there's more to it than something so literal? Let's see shall we? Brolly is a few days old and his first memories consist of being stabbed and left for dead, planet Vegeta being blown up, and watching his father's attempted murder too. All this time, the only consistent thing going on was Goku's crying. That's why he's fixated on Goku.

Pilgrim Sun · Post by **Pilgrim Sun** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:06 am

I think he mostly meant Broli's background, how he came to hate Goku. Interesting parts come to mind how he escaped Planet Vegeta and how he travelled about blowing stuff up, and to make things even more detailed, he got so powerful and uncontrolable, he had to wear that headgear.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:12 am

Aurek wrote:
Not seen 10 or 11 yet, but I liked 8. Broly's one of the most detailed movie villains created, people just expect them to be more transparent and miss some things about his character. Plus, for once, the Z Fighters get their asses handed to them.
I think we discussed this before where I disagreed. How do you mean for once they got their asses handed to them, the Z fighters getting beaten half or completly to death was a staple of DBZ.

Because there was no fighting back. It was just them and Broly's fist/arm. The ONLY attack that did jack was the final one. Broly was, by far, the toughest fight they ever had.

He's a messed up psychopath for one. And his hatred of Goku most likely can be explained by "association". Broly doesn't hate Goku ONLY because he wouldn't stop crying. Has it ever occured to you guys that there's more to it than something so literal? Let's see shall we? Brolly is a few days old and his first memories consist of being stabbed and left for dead, planet Vegeta being blown up, and watching his father's attempted murder too. All this time, the only consistent thing going on was Goku's crying. That's why he's fixated on Goku.

Yep! Exactly.

And how many other movie villains did you even SEE a backstory/explanation for? Hell, Bojack is far thinner a character than Broly. (Bojack's probably the thinnest, in fact, and yet often called the best...)

Aurek · Post by **Aurek** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:29 am

Yep! Exactly. And how many other movie villains did you even SEE a backstory/explanation for? Hell, Bojack is far thinner a character than Broly. (Bojack's probably the thinnest, in fact, and yet often called the best...)

Well ok Ill give you Bojack. Though he was a generic "wants to destroy and rule to universe" type guy. He didnt have a story so it was ok. With Broly they tried and failed to make his story interesting.

Brolly is a few days old

And therefore would not remember any of it, I dont care if he's a saiyan he would have no recollection, even subconsiously.

Because there was no fighting back. It was just them and Broly's fist/arm. The ONLY attack that did jack was the final one. Broly was, by far, the toughest fight they ever had.

Eventually all the fights were like that:
Vegeta against final form Freeza
Goku against final form Freeza
Piccolo against third form (if I remimber correctly) Freeza
Krillin against everyone
Krillin/Gohan against Reccome
etc, etc

It would have been better had the fighting been good but it consisted entirely of Broly smashing people into things. Mabye I will think differently when I see the origional version...

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:51 am

And therefore would not remember any of it, I dont care if he's a saiyan he would have no recollection, even subconsiously.

No, he wouldn't, not conciously. But events like those can be remembered no matter the age of occurance. My fear of water (well, of being underwater) comes from when I was just a little kid. I can't even remember the acutal event, though my dad's told me the story, but still don't like it, though I'm overcoming it. It's subconcious.

Eventually all the fights were like that:
Vegeta against final form Freeza
Goku against final form Freeza
Piccolo against third form (if I remimber correctly) Freeza
Krillin against everyone
Krillin/Gohan against Reccome
etc, etc

And those are all quite different. There was either "Oh, Goku will show up and save everyone" element or they were actually able to do a little something. Freeza didn't take a Kamehameha to the chest and just keep walking toward Goku, Broly did.

It would have been better had the fighting been good but it consisted entirely of Broly smashing people into things. Mabye I will think differently when I see the origional version...

The fighting was good, and the fact that it was Broly just pounding everyone made it even better. There was no "Oh, Goku will show up and save everyone" because he as getting his ass kicked right along with the rest. And nothing they did phased Broly. There always looked like they could possibly win in the other fights, but against Broly it actually looked like everything was stacked against them for once.

Aurek · Post by **Aurek** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:16 am

Well we will just have to agree to disagree then