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Re: Post Dragon Box

Post by TonyTheTiger » Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:50 pm

Rory wrote:America's is arguably better, due to optional subtitles and audio tracks (and if I recall correctly, there's more footage on the left and right of the R1 release than in the R2s).
Not to mention the price. I noticed that it's oddly common in Japan to charge an arm and a leg for DVD sets.
AnimeMaakuo wrote:I say Japan has the greatest release. Japanese Dragon Boxes and Daizenshuu books are pretty much it. The North America Dragon Box is no where close to it. The box art and everything, But I assume your talking about the footage so yeah your right on that.
The box art is the same. It's essentially the exact same thing just split up into 7 boxes instead of 2 and reduced in size.

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Post by Rory » Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:54 pm

AnimeMaakuo wrote:I say Japan has the greatest release. Japanese Dragon Boxes and Daizenshuu books are pretty much it. The North America Dragon Box is no where close to it. The box art and everything,
Considering the North American release is almost a total replica (Dragon Book included), I dunno how you think that.
TonyTheTiger's got a point too, the price tag on the R1 Dragon Boxes is so good, it's not even funny.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:13 pm

The Japanese Dragon Boxes may be superior in terms of sheer content alone, but that's pretty much all bonus items and extras. Whereas the American sets just contain the show (and possibly textless openings and endings), but the prices are actually affordable, the footage is nearly identical, and there are English subs, making it possible for me to watch the show with this footage. Also, as minute as it may be, I think the menus are superior as well, as even though the aren't animated, I think that makes them less distracting, and they are way more varied to the Japanese menus, of which there were only a measly 2.

As I've said before, there's no reason for me to get the Japanese sets when FUNimation is releasing near identical sets (minus all the cool, but what I feel to be unnecessary bonuses, except the TV specials and OVA, which would probably be better separate releases), for affordable prices, and with English subtitles.

At this point, the Japanese sets (which on their own I suppose are superior in terms of content alone) would be a novelty to me at most... a very expensive novelty...
AnimeMaakuo wrote:Well, one thing that annoys me (I'm sure everyone else) is that North American Dragon Box stacks their DVD.
It doesn't bother me. It's the result of shrinking the sets, which I feel to be necessary. I'd take some overlapped disks over a huge set which definitely wouldn't fit on my shelf.
AnimeMaakuo wrote:*EDIT * I never noticed a difference in more footage in (R1) than (R2). Where did you get that from?
From what I know, it isn't actually more footage, it's just that the American sets are framed slightly differently, so you see some footage on the... right side I believe, and the bottom I think, that you couldn't see in the Japanese releases, but it doesn't really mean anything as overall I'm pretty sure that they both have the same amount of footage.
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Re: Post Dragon Box

Post by TonyTheTiger » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:25 pm

AnimeMaakuo wrote:Well, one thing that annoys me (I'm sure everyone else) is that North American Dragon Box stacks their DVD.
That is kind of annoying but I think it's forgivable.
AnimeMaakuo wrote:I sure had to pay an arm for my Japanese Dragon Box sets. I paid about (Yen) Translation = $3,300 MINT. I paid about $100 for the Super Anime Dragon Ball Z 40th Special Sealed. I also paid a leg for my Daizenshuu collection 1-10 about $600 MINT... *sigh*
Good grief. It's funny because I was interested in the Tenchi movie trilogy Blu-ray set that came out until I saw that it was a few hundred dollars. How do they get away with charging that much? Are people really willing to pay out of the ass for three movies? Imagine if The Die Hard Collection went for $400 instead of $50 here in North America. Nobody would ever pay that much.

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Post by Greenman » Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:12 pm

AnimeMaakuo wrote:*EDIT * I never noticed a difference in more footage in (R1) than (R2). Where did you get that from?
The U.S. Dragon Box has slightly more footage on the sides on some episodes, although it has an even slighter amount less on the bottom. The Daizenshuu EX Dragon Box review has a good explanation:
VegettoEX wrote:The video framing is ever-so-slightly different from the R2 DVD releases. FUNimation's Dragon Box does away with the ~4 pixel left-and-right black buffer present in some episodes on the R2s, but instead has a ~1-2 pixel buffer at the very top of the frame. The placement of the frame also seems to be shifted down by a couple pixels. It is all very minor and hardly affects the viewing experience, but it is worth pointing out.

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Post by TonyTheTiger » Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:17 pm

AnimeMaakuo wrote:Yeah, I mean I was willing to pay that much, so I guess there are some extreme people out there hehe.
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Do most Japanese consumers put up with that though? I like Tenchi as much as the next guy but even if I were in Japan I can't fathom paying $250 (or the yen equivalent) for the three movies. Same with the Yu Yu Hakusho Blu-rays which are even more expensive. How do the distributors move their stock?

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Post by DemonRin » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:53 am

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AnimeMaakuo wrote:Do most Japanese consumers put up with that though? I like Tenchi as much as the next guy but even if I were in Japan I can't fathom paying $250 (or the yen equivalent) for the three movies. Same with the Yu Yu Hakusho Blu-rays which are even more expensive. How do the distributors move their stock?
I don't live there, but from what I've heard, it has something to do with the convenience of Rental Shops in Japan, nobody really wants to own DVDs.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:03 am

DemonRin wrote:I don't live there, but from what I've heard, it has something to do with the convenience of Rental Shops in Japan, nobody really wants to own DVDs.
I believe I've heard from people here that part of the reason prices are so high is because Japanese fans just record the shows they want to watch, or in the case of Dragon Ball, they just watch their old VHS recordings when they don't want to wait for reruns. If they want to own an official release, they'll buy a few DVD singles which contain their favorite episodes.
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Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:48 am

2 things that I believe made the US DBoxes' video quality less superior than the Japanese DBoxes
1.The US DBoxes are 10% more brighter than the Japanese DBoxes
2.The US DBoxes' video compression are 7 GB? And The Japanese DBoxes are 9 GB?

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AnimeMaakuo wrote:Of course I know that they made one similar. What are you talking about?
Sorry. The way you worded your post seemed like you didn't.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:51 am

Goku100xKamehameha wrote:2 things that I believe made the US DBoxes' video quality less superior than the Japanese DBoxes
1.The US DBoxes are 10% more brighter than the Japanese DBoxes
2.The US DBoxes' video compression are 7 GB? And The Japanese DBoxes are 9 GB?
1. The US sets are brighter due to signal differences between the regions, so that they will look the same on US TV's and DVD players as they would on Japanese ones.
2. The Japanese sets weren't optimized at all, they simply ran everything on maximum without trying to save any space on the discs, which could be seen as overkill. What would the size matter when FUNimation's video and audio are nearly identical?
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Re: Post Dragon Box

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:54 am

AnimeMaakuo wrote:I paid about $100 for the Super Anime Dragon Ball Z 40th Special Sealed.
Really? You paid that much for that one DVD?

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Goku100xKamehameha wrote:
AnimeMaakuo wrote:I paid about $100 for the Super Anime Dragon Ball Z 40th Special Sealed.
Really? You paid that much for that one DVD?
Generally what's a good price for the JSAT special DVD?

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Post by Rory » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:07 am

AnimeMaakuo wrote:I want to see peoples collections so far, and what they want, anyone have a collection to post?
There's a thread for that. :)

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Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:39 am

1 more plus from the Japanese DBoxes than US one is the Japanese track is way better than US one
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Goku100xKamehameha wrote:
AnimeMaakuo wrote:I paid about $100 for the Super Anime Dragon Ball Z 40th Special Sealed.
Really? You paid that much for that one DVD?
Generally what's a good price for the JSAT special DVD?
$20 or the same price as original price

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Re: Post Dragon Box

Post by Rory » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:52 am

Goku100xKamehameha wrote:$20 or the same price as original price
Considering it was a limited run, and now hard to come by, I assume it'd be more than that.

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Re: Post Dragon Box

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:14 am

Rory wrote:
Goku100xKamehameha wrote:$20 or the same price as original price
Considering it was a limited run, and now hard to come by, I assume it'd be more than that.
He said "good" price, The buyer gets a good price if it's cheap but the seller get a bad price if it's cheap. So there's no "good" price for both buyer and seller but there is a "fair" price. So $20 or $16 (original price!) are the good prices.

But I'm got it for 1400 Yen and it's brand new! :D

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Post by Greenman » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:22 am

Goku100xKamehameha wrote:
Rory wrote:
Goku100xKamehameha wrote:$20 or the same price as original price
Considering it was a limited run, and now hard to come by, I assume it'd be more than that.
He said "good" price, The buyer gets a good price if it's cheap but the seller get a bad price if it's cheap. So there's no "good" price for both buyer and seller but there is a "fair" price. So $20 or $16 (original price!) are the good prices.

But I'm got it for 1400 Yen and it's brand new! :D
OK, thanks for the answer.

Where did you buy yours from?

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