Why wasn't Falconer's music used for GT?

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Re: Why wasn't Falconer's music used for GT?

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:51 pm

Zephyr wrote:GT's shitty music was a major factor in me disliking it. Falconer's music may have changed that a little, but it is GT so not likely by much.
I really hope you're talking about Menza's replacement soundtrack...
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Re: Why wasn't Falconer's music used for GT?

Post by Zephyr » Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:12 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
Zephyr wrote:GT's shitty music was a major factor in me disliking it. Falconer's music may have changed that a little, but it is GT so not likely by much.
I really hope you're talking about Menza's replacement soundtrack...
Menza's boring, sleep inducing music is exactly what I'm taking about.

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Re: Why wasn't Falconer's music used for GT?

Post by Coycoy88 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:32 pm

Zephyr wrote:
Metalwario64 wrote:
Zephyr wrote:GT's shitty music was a major factor in me disliking it. Falconer's music may have changed that a little, but it is GT so not likely by much.
I really hope you're talking about Menza's replacement soundtrack...
Menza's boring, sleep inducing music is exactly what I'm taking about.
Just about all the music from the Dub of Gt was boring as hell. :/ Something about it's sound kinda depressed me too. xD Heh, the only tracks I truly liked from Menza's score was Super Android 17's Theme, and the track that played on the last episode where you see flashbacks from Dragonball, DBZ, and GT.
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Re: Why wasn't Falconer's music used for GT?

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Coycoy88 wrote: Just about all the music from the Dub of Gt was boring as hell. :/ Something about it's sound kinda depressed me too. xD Heh, the only tracks I truly liked from Menza's score was Super Android 17's Theme, and the track that played on the last episode where you see flashbacks from Dragonball, DBZ, and GT.
My favourite GT track is this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEitNUVE ... re=related (which you awesomley ripped) :P

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Re: Why wasn't Falconer's music used for GT?

Post by VenomSymbiote » Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:11 pm

I'm with you too, Scott. Even as a dub fan, Menza's score leaves a lot to be desired... Super 17's Theme, the recap music, the track that plays when Krillin is killed, and Step Into The Grand Tour are really the only tracks I like in GT. 4 things. That's not particulary great.

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Re: Why wasn't Falconer's music used for GT?

Post by Blue » Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:28 pm

Did Menza do the movies too? Did he do the Ultimate Uncut stuff? In any event he didn't create anything half as awesome as "Groovy Disco Tech" AKA .THE BEST DUB SONG EVER so I agree with the general distaste. On that note Groovy Disco Tech would have been an awesome song to play in the Hell scene of GT with Freeza and Cell. Is there a mock up of that floating around anywhere?
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Re: Why wasn't Falconer's music used for GT?

Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:06 pm

Blue wrote:Did Menza do the movies too? Did he do the Ultimate Uncut stuff? In any event he didn't create anything half as awesome as "Groovy Disco Tech" AKA .THE BEST DUB SONG EVER so I agree with the general distaste. On that note Groovy Disco Tech would have been an awesome song to play in the Hell scene of GT with Freeza and Cell. Is there a mock up of that floating around anywhere?
Menza did Movies 6 & 7, which is IMO his best work. He also did part of movie 8 along with 9, 10, and 11. He's also responsible for this piece of awesomeness. Nathan Johnson did the awful score for the UUE stuff.
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Re: Why wasn't Falconer's music used for GT?

Post by cRookie_Monster » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:25 pm

Blue wrote:Did Menza do the movies too? Did he do the Ultimate Uncut stuff? In any event he didn't create anything half as awesome as "Groovy Disco Tech" AKA .THE BEST DUB SONG EVER so I agree with the general distaste. On that note Groovy Disco Tech would have been an awesome song to play in the Hell scene of GT with Freeza and Cell. Is there a mock up of that floating around anywhere?
My God man lol. It might be time I did a proper version of that piece of !&%#$.
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Re: Why wasn't Falconer's music used for GT?

Post by Blue » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:09 pm

I don't think you CAN improve upon the beacon of awesomeness that is Groovy Disco Tech. I think it's physically and mentally impossible for any mortal man.
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Re: Why wasn't Falconer's music used for GT?

Post by cRookie_Monster » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:14 pm

Well you've got my thoughts bent on it now. If I can break my addiction to Guild Wars and StarCraft II for a moment I might see if I can fix some of the things that always bothered me about that track...like those awful sustained b2s in the melody and bad mix job.
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Re: Why wasn't Falconer's music used for GT?

Post by Cipher » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:59 pm

Unlike Z, I first saw GT in Japanese and fell in love with the Akihito score.

So I remember thinking, the summer before seventh grade as Funimation's GT license was making the rounds, that if they weren't going to keep the original score the dub, they could at least re-contract Faulconer. Because at that time I still preferred the dub and his music had always been tolerable to catchy.

Boy, was I disappointed.

So while I now agree that none of the music should have been replaced in the first place, and even agreed on that point for GT in particular at the time, a Faulconer score for the show would have been much, much easier on my thirteen-year-old ears. And I'm guess I'm not the only one who thought so.

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Re: Why wasn't Falconer's music used for GT?

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:38 am

jjgp1112 wrote:He's also responsible for this piece of awesomeness.
I really need to give that man a handshake for that. :P

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Re: Why wasn't Falconer's music used for GT?

Post by Cipher » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:50 pm

cRookie_Monster wrote:In all honesty, the Kai score loses a lot of character doing that, and was the same reason I abandoned the track I was working on. It just didn't have enough flavor to it.
Just wanted to add a thank you for expressing this. This has been my problem with the Kai score from day one. Yes, it's more modern sounding, and yes, some of the tracks are catchier. But it became generic in doing so. You could pair that score with just about any other action cartoon without a problem.

The original score sounded like it was taking cues from older camp cinema (Asian films, kung-fu movies, etc). It sounds dated, but it works. The series always boils down to a riff on corny '70s flicks, so it doesn't hurt to sound like one. And yes, some of it is catchy as well.

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Re: Why wasn't Falconer's music used for GT?

Post by Puto » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:12 pm

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Cowboy Dev wrote:
Kaboom wrote:Every single other known DBZ dub in the entire world has the sense to use the original music. It's only North American-produced dubs that ever seem to have a problem. I don't know what that problem is, but "age" is no issue.
Exactly. Orchestra is classic. How can it age?
Poor recordings.
The recordings in the OST are fine; it's the actual show's audio track that was stored in crap equipment.
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