Do you guys feel that Kai was a quick Cash-In?

[AnimeMaakuo]

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[PuppetDoctor]

Like when Piccolo destroyed Goku's spaceship but the spaceship Goku uses to get to Namek is the same one!

What are you talking about, Piccolo never destroyed the Capsule Corp Space Ship?

The above poster was speaking of the filler in the Saiyan Saga when Piccolo destroyed Goku's space pod since it was emitting a hologram of the full moon. This is a plot hole because Goku mentions that the Capsule Corp. space ship was made using the parts of Goku's space pod.

[AnimeMaakuo]

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[Goku100xKamehameha]

Like when Piccolo destroyed Goku's spaceship but the spaceship Goku uses to get to Namek is the same one!

What are you talking about, Piccolo never destroyed the Capsule Corp Space Ship?

Did you know that baby Goku's ship has been modified by Dr.Brief into the spaceship that Goku uses to get to Namek?

not true to the Manga? Who gives a freaken shit about that, ITS THE ANIME. It's not going to be EXACTLY LIKE THE MANGA where it's just pictures saying *POW* *KICK* okay? >.<

One of the point of an Anime version of a Manga is to animated things, So you can see it in motion and yes, it have to be the same.

[Zephyr]

stop calling it "fillers" really got to quit that.

there is no such thing as "FILLERS"

The level of denial here is getting hilarious.

They are called filler. That is the term that is used to describe the parts of the story that were used to occupy time until the story was progressed. There's no way around it. Yes, its part of the anime canon, but they ARE filler.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

stop calling it "fillers" really got to quit that.

there is no such thing as "FILLERS"

The level of denial here is getting hilarious.
They are called filler. That is the term that is used to describe the parts of the story that were used to occupy time until the story was progressed. There's no way around it. Yes, its part of the anime canon, but they ARE filler.

The canon story. Just sayin' and you right.

[AnimeMaakuo]

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[Zephyr]

Your saying that the Manga has to be the same as the Anime? Well your shit out of luck.

It will never be EXACTLY like the Manga. It would be boring as well. Everything in DBZ is a "Filler" because seeing it in motion and seeing the trees, a whole shit load is not in the Manga, that's why it's called the Anime T.V series. I'm very sorry that your not getting your Manga series because for the fact, Akira made the brilliant story to pay some things, he never knew what a hit it would be. Toei took it from his hands and made it spring to life. So don't tell me how bad it is or how It's not the way YOU like it okay? Just keep that opinion to yourself.

(Not trying to be an ass, just trying to tell you how it is man).

There is a serious misunderstanding going on here. I'm not saying anything has to be any certain way.

I'm not using "filler" as a derogatory term for the anime as a whole. I'm using it as a TERM to describe the things that were added to the storyline by Toei. Not bashing it, not praising it, but defining it.

Toei was adapting the story at the same time it was being written. The only reason filler even exists is because they needed to keep making episodes, but there wasn't enough material in the manga, so they added things. These added things are referred to as "filler".

Let me reiterate, that I am not bitching about the existence of Filler, I am merely trying to explain to you again, that filler is not in the original story. As I've said already, some filler can be good and add depth to the story, while some can be bad and create plot holes, but it is still filler regardless.

This may be where the misunderstanding lies. You seem to be denying that filler even exists (which is what I have been addressing for the last 2 posts), while at the same time thinking that I despise all filler because it 'defiles my sacred manga version' (and for the record, I've only ever watched the anime, never read the manga).

[AnimeMaakuo]

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[Goku100xKamehameha]

It's not Toriyama's original vision.

[AnimeMaakuo]

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[EnmaDaiou]

In my opinion, manga is more exciting than anime.

I don't think manga is "boring"..

[AnimeMaakuo]

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[Kaboom]

AnimeMaakuo, please take the attitude down a notch. You specifically for his opinion, and he gave it.

[AnimeMaakuo]

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[Kaboom]

I was asking for Zephyr's opinion.

I see. Still, it's not acceptable to lash out at other forumgoers like that. Please try to remain civil.

[EnmaDaiou]

That's okay, I respect that. Let me rephrase that, (Imo) It would be boring if it was EXACTLY like the Manga. Reason being is that there would be no movement seeming that the Anime makes them move and talk and what not, while the Manga are pages you read and flip through. Other than that, I love both.

To add some scenes and non-canon things is necessary to make a decent animated chapter.
They have to "fill" the parts betwen each scene in manga.
But long filler sagas or an entire ep of a character making one Kiai are not necessary to make a good anime....

[ohaimynameiserik]

I was asking for Zephyr's opinion, and someone like gokux100 cannot understand that there is the Anime T.V series and the Manga.
But sure, I'll be done with this topic since nobody really understands. *sigh*

Sorry man, but when you offend the Anime series without facts and sources, then you offend me, especially when someone doesn't understand how simple it is.

It really is you that does not understand. The anime is an adaptation of the manga. It adds some stuff into it that wasn't originally in the source material. That stuff is called filler. The end.

You're wrong. Absolutely 100 percent wrong and you can't stand it. Man up, will you?

[AnimeMaakuo]

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[Zephyr]

Agreed. Might I ask out of curiosity, what is your opinion about it?

I personally feel that its unnecessary. Some of it is good though, like Piccolo learning how to drive.

I enjoy Kai because its an almost filler-less adaptation of the manga, and which allows us to have both a long version for those who want it (original), and short version for the ones who want it (Kai).

Personally, the Kai dub is everything I could ask for, sans the repetitive music; less/shortened stare downs and dialog, quicker to get to the action, and GOOD dub with the Funi cast (and I really don't mind most of the recasts). Though I understand the Japanese fans are getting the short end of the stick for this version of the anime, and that's unfortunate.

Its funny though, only the English dub has a good short version, and only the Japanese dub has a good long version. Ironic in a way.