Questions about energy for releasing Majin Boo

[Dayspring]

I've kind of started derailing another thread, so I thought I'd ask all questions here:

1) What kind of energy can be used to free Boo? Is it just Kaioshin's who can't be used?

2) How is it being used to free Boo? Does the energy get added to him until the seal/egg can no longer keep him trapped, or is it just breaking the seal itself?

3) Does Majin Boo have all that energy added to his own strength? In other words, was he weaker prior to getting sealed?

4) Is there a possibility that Skinny Boo has all of Fat Boo's "normal" strength, whereas Mr Boo just has the energy of what was collected to release Fat Boo?

[Dio Brando]

1) Any kind of energy that is not from a demon or a person possessed by Babidi. That's why he can't just control people and have them "donate" their energy to Boo, because their energy was "tainted".

2) Actually, the root of it is that when Bibidi originally sealed Boo, he didn't need to collect any energy. But, since Boo was sealed in the sphere and left undisturbed for a lot of time (implied to be millenia), that's why he needs the energy to be released. The energy seems to break the seal and "complete" his ki, because when Boo comes out, Kaioshin remarks he's just as strong as when he defeated the other Kais, and Babidi remarks that during the Vegeta/Goku fight that Boo's energy is filling up and becoming complete.

3) No, he had the same strength. He was weaker when he was sealed, though. Kaioshin and Babidi both say this, and this is why Babidi is extra careful on not letting anyone disturb the sphere (such as transporting Vegeta and Goku to another place), because a big impact would still release the seal, but Boo would come out of the sphere weaker than he was prior to being sealed. And Babidi didn't want that.

4) No. It's never said explicitly in the anime at least, but Kid Boo is actually the weaker of all the Boos. He is more dangerous just because he is more violent, and will kill people as fast as he can, without toying with them. Fat Boo is stronger than him, but less prone to violence, because of that fat Kaioshin's influence. I treat Mr.Boo just as the being that resulted when Boo expelled most of his evil influence. He is weaker than Fat Boo and even Kid Boo, but I don't treat him as a separate Boo... well, maybe he is.

[Dio Brando]

Sorry, forum bug.

[dbgtFO]

1) Pure energy, not specified what pure means in my version, but apparently Babidi seems certain, that he can't use Kaioshin's energy(how would he know?, is it because he is a god?) maybe because of Kaioshin being the guy that he is.

2) I think the energy is being used to break the seal and when it is filled up, he is able to break free from the seal, in the form of smoke coming out of the egg.

3) I don't think it was added or anything it was just the specific amount of energy required for freeing him, it still means he is more than 2* stronger than SSJ2 Gohan though.

4) In my PL/BP list I have Mr. Buu having the same BP required to release Fat Buu, while Skinny Boo accessed all of Fat Buu's anger reserves, that he couldn't use without splitting basically Fat Buu would be Super Buu's equal if he could access all his power without splitting.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

1) What kind of energy can be used to free Boo? Is it just Kaioshin's who can't be used?

"Pure Energy", I believe. That's what I recall it being labeled as in the Manga by Kibito. Bobbidi had wondered (And was way off) if Spopovitch and Yamu had drained hundreds of humans, so in his mind at least, their energy would've did something.

2) How is it being used to free Boo? Does the energy get added to him until the seal/egg can no longer keep him trapped, or is it just breaking the seal itself?

I believe it could be both. Not sure here. I always thought the energy was simply for breaking the seal, but further evidence shows the energy is actually added to Boo. So, in all likelihood, it's the former.

3) Does Majin Boo have all that energy added to his own strength? In other words, was he weaker prior to getting sealed?

I think so. When Bobbidi moves Goku and Yakon to the Dark Planet, he tell's Dabra they need the ship intact so it wouldn't wake Boo up at half-strength. He wanted them to gain the full amount of energy so Boo could be at full-power once he was released. So, I believe that energy does go to his strength. And I don't think he was weaker beforehand. I just think laying dormant for many centuries will require a good amount of power to re-establish. Either that, or Bobbidi simply didn't know what how to use the spell Bibbidi used to awaken him, tho he does mention having the ability to seal Boo up whenever he wanted.

4) Is there a possibility that Skinny Boo has all of Fat Boo's "normal" strength, whereas Mr Boo just has the energy of what was collected to release Fat Boo?

It is possible, since Mr. Boo is accepted to be Super Saiyan 2 tier, and all of the energy accumulated came from two Super Saiyan 2 warriors. Evil Boo, well, not sure. Most have him equal to Kid Boo because he's pure evil. Not sure here, either.

[Dio Brando]

When Babidi is taken aback on how much energy Yam and Spopovitch amassed, he remarks "They must have collected energy from hundreds of people", which seems to imply that any energy that was not tainted would work.

[Kaboom]

Let's see what I can find out by digging into the manga, provided there's no mix-ups in Viz's translations...

Damn, that's what I get for making a thorough, researched post!

1) What kind of energy can be used to free Boo? Is it just Kaioshin's who can't be used?

When spying out the heroes hiding on the cliff, Dabra says that they can't used Kaioshin's energy... OR Kibito's. Other than that, nothing more is said on the subject.

However, it also becomes apparent from reading that damage dealt to Bobbidi's minions doesn't add to Boo. This isn't outright stated, but PuiPui and Yakon getting beaten up didn't add power to Boo at all. So we can likewise assume Vegeta's bumps and bruises from his fight didn't either, and the only energy received from that battle was Goku's. No indication of whether or not this is a matter of their being incompatible, or just not being how the "system" works.

2) How is it being used to free Boo? Does the energy get added to him until the seal/egg can no longer keep him trapped, or is it just breaking the seal itself?

The first explanation of the process says that, "Boo has been sealed away for a long time. To resurrect him, Bobbidi needs a tremendous amount of pure energy." This implies the energy is needed for the very process of revival and release itself. However, tons of later dialogue suggest otherwise, that Boo CAN possibly be released earlier, but without the energy he wouldn't be at full-power. Maybe it's a mix of the two.

3) Does Majin Boo have all that energy added to his own strength? In other words, was he weaker prior to getting sealed?

See above. It's hard to tell. It seems that the purpose of giving him the energy was to restore his prior power, which had deteriorated over the millennia he'd spent sealed away.

4) Is there a possibility that Skinny Boo has all of Fat Boo's "normal" strength, whereas Mr Boo just has the energy of what was collected to release Fat Boo?

Interesting theory, especially since in most cases after I crunch the numbers, Skinny Boo ends up as a good match for most of the SSj2s. Nothing really to support it though.

[Senzu_Bean]

1) What kind of energy can be used to free Boo? Is it just Kaioshin's who can't be used?

There is none requirement of what kind of energy is need to free Buu besides "pure energy", which doesn't mean anything besides energy and only energy.

I honestly don't see what Dabra says as synonym of Kaioshin energy cannot be used to "revive" Majin Buu. What I take from the sentence added into previous and following dialogue is Kaioshin along with Kibito won't enter in the ship no matter what, which make impossible to use their energy.

And obviously those under Babidi control their energy cannot be used to release Buu.

2) How is it being used to free Boo? Does the energy get added to him until the seal/egg can no longer keep him trapped, or is it just breaking the seal itself?

Whatever those options above can be correct. There is no way to know for certain.

3) Does Majin Boo have all that energy added to his own strength? In other words, was he weaker prior to getting sealed?

He IS weaker from being sealed.

4) Is there a possibility that Skinny Boo has all of Fat Boo's "normal" strength, whereas Mr Boo just has the energy of what was collected to release Fat Boo?

The energy which was collected to release Buu is the entirely of Fat Buu power.