Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

[Xyex]

By the way, this is in no way intended to be rude or snobbish...but Kaboom, can you justify why you (and maybe some other of you guys who believe this can explain too) believe in the Daizenshuu levels of 150 mil and 120 mil for SSj Goku and 100% Freeza, when Freeza fought evenly with Goku and wasn't even immediately killed when his chi began dropping? Do you think Goku was holding back? If so, why?

Because with the right conditions, 120 million is close enough to put up a good fight against 150 million, despite the later being superior. I wouldn't put Freeza any lower than that, though. If they said he was only like 90 million or something, I wouldn't buy it.

I do. Well, 95 million. But I also put Goku at 100 million. I think the fight was too close initially for a 1.25x gap to be plausible.

[Piccolo Daimao]

By the way, this is in no way intended to be rude or snobbish...but Kaboom, can you justify why you (and maybe some other of you guys who believe this can explain too) believe in the Daizenshuu levels of 150 mil and 120 mil for SSj Goku and 100% Freeza, when Freeza fought evenly with Goku and wasn't even immediately killed when his chi began dropping? Do you think Goku was holding back? If so, why?

Because with the right conditions, 120 million is close enough to put up a good fight against 150 million, despite the later being superior. I wouldn't put Freeza any lower than that, though. If they said he was only like 90 million or something, I wouldn't buy it.

I do. Well, 95 million. But I also put Goku at 100 million. I think the fight was too close initially for a 1.25x gap to be plausible.

Also something I was thinking about...Mecha Freeza claimed that he'd gotten a lot stronger and was now confident enough to beat Super Saiyan Goku. But as we know, in Future Trunks' timeline, SSj Goku had come back to Earth and beaten Mecha Freeza and King Cold, right? However, like you say in your battle powers, Goku spent most of the time on Yardrat learning Shunkan-Ido and controlling Super Saiyan. But how could Goku, who'd, perhaps, only increased in strength by a little, beat Freeza (who advanced enough that he thought he could beat Goku alone) and Cold (Freeza thought they could beat Goku together) on Earth? It's never said whether it was a clear win or an even fight, but it sounds like it was a clear win, since if Goku was still even with Freeza and Cold was around to help out, no way would Goku be able to beat the both of them, unless Freeza actually opted to fight by himself? But even so, when has someone who's equal with another ever grabbed the win, unless they were off-guard (SSJ2 Goku vs. Majin Vegeta) or with a cheap shot (Vegeta vs. Monster Zarbon)?

What if, since Goku still hadn't tamed his transformation, he still had a good deal of power still within him? And that, when Goku was finally able to control it on Yardrat, he now had access to that power? As in, Freeza's 120 mil, SSj Goku untamed is 125 mil, but if he was able to control it, he'd actually be at 150 mil. And back on Earth, he's now 158 mil, which still fits with the fact that he mainly focused on controlling SSj? I know 125 mil doesn't fit with the SSj multiplier, but I actually agree with Rocketman's theory, that SSj can't follow a fixed multiplier because it's purely based on rage and savagery...until Goku and the others manage to control it, then I think it turns into a 50x multiplier. (This is also because if it doesn't follow a multiplier afterwards, I think it would be hard to deduce the SSj levels and will just end up picking random numbers).

Is that understandable, or did I just go off on one of my unnecessarily deep speculations?

EDIT: Kaboom, you said a 120 mil fighter can fight even with a 150 mil fighter. How come Freeza wasn't instantly killed when his chi started dropping? If he was at 100 mil or something, he would've been obliterated for sure. Goku's Kaioken against Ginyu was read at 180k, and Ginyu's full power was 120k, and Ginyu was crapping himself. That's the same power difference as 100 mil and 150 mil.

[Kaboom]

EDIT: Kaboom, you said a 120 mil fighter can fight even with a 150 mil fighter. How come Freeza wasn't instantly killed when his chi started dropping?

The same reason he wasn't obliterated while he was still at 60 million before powering up.

Plus, again, Goku wanted a good fight. When Freeza was no longer capable of giving him one, he quit. Goku's final, "you fool" blast against Freeza was, I believe, a good indicator of what Goku could have done all along.

[Piccolo Daimao]

EDIT: Kaboom, you said a 120 mil fighter can fight even with a 150 mil fighter. How come Freeza wasn't instantly killed when his chi started dropping?

The same reason he wasn't obliterated while he was still at 60 million before powering up.

Plus, again, Goku wanted a good fight. When Freeza was no longer capable of giving him one, he quit. Goku's final, "you fool" blast against Freeza was, I believe, a good indicator of what Goku could have done all along.

OK, I understand.

[Xyex]

but I actually agree with Rocketman's theory, that SSj can't follow a fixed multiplier because it's purely based on rage and savagery...

I could buy this if I believed the transformation was based on rage. The thing is, I don't. It's triggered by rage. It causes an increase in restlessness and anger. But it's not based on, nor fueled by it, or there would be no 'mastering' of it as we saw Goku and Gohan do. Removing that anger would remove the form. The way I see it anger is merely the trigger, and a minor side-effect of it, but not a fuel or a basis or anything of that nature.

[Kaboom]

And, of course, you have people like Gohan whose power fluctuates with their emotions. But even that's kind of an addition to the transformations, not so much their cause or very "essence," shall we say.

[Haji]

Um, aren't the SSJ powers like this?
SSJ-50x
SSJ2-200x
SSJ3-400x
I thought I'd seen this in one of the Super Exciting Guides.

[Piccolo Daimao]

but I actually agree with Rocketman's theory, that SSj can't follow a fixed multiplier because it's purely based on rage and savagery...

I could buy this if I believed the transformation was based on rage. The thing is, I don't. It's triggered by rage. It causes an increase in restlessness and anger. But it's not based on, nor fueled by it, or there would be no 'mastering' of it as we saw Goku and Gohan do. Removing that anger would remove the form. The way I see it anger is merely the trigger, and a minor side-effect of it, but not a fuel or a basis or anything of that nature.

Yeah, I agree now, Super Saiyan isn't based on rage, it's triggered by rage. I don't really know what to think of the multiplier; on one hand I think it fits for a battle power list at the least, since otherwise it would be like just choosing random numbers (and that a 50x multiplier just fits snugly because it's a believable power increase up from Goku's Kaiô-Ken x20 multiplier), but on the other hand I believe that nothing in the story suggests that Super Saiyan is a fixed multiplier like the tightly controlled Kaiô-Ken (which, of course, is stated to be a multiplier). Maybe I could pick a battle power loosely based around a 50x increase from base, rather than a strict multiplier...? Like, if I was to have Vegeta's SSj BP at 220,000,000, but his base is something like 4,050,000? *Sigh* I dunno. Battle powers give me a headache. It's simply impossible to make a post-Freeza arc list that sits well with me.

[Xyex]

Um, aren't the SSJ powers like this?
SSJ-50x
SSJ2-200x
SSJ3-400x
I thought I'd seen this in one of the Super Exciting Guides.

Close. The SEG has SSJ2 as 100x base (2x SSJ1), and then SSJ3 is 400x base (4x SSJ2).

Of course, that's their estimations. The 50x for SSJ1 and the 2x for SSJ2 work within the context of the story. The 4x for SSJ3 does not, however.

Yeah, I agree now, Super Saiyan isn't based on rage, it's triggered by rage. I don't really know what to think of the multiplier; on one hand I think it fits for a battle power list at the least, since otherwise it would be like just choosing random numbers (and that a 50x multiplier just fits snugly because it's a believable power increase up from Goku's Kaiô-Ken x20 multiplier), but on the other hand I believe that nothing in the story suggests that Super Saiyan is a fixed multiplier like the tightly controlled Kaiô-Ken (which, of course, is stated to be a multiplier). Maybe I could pick a battle power loosely based around a 50x increase from base, rather than a strict multiplier...? Like, if I was to have Vegeta's SSj BP at 220,000,000, but his base is something like 4,050,000? *Sigh* I dunno. Battle powers give me a headache. It's simply impossible to make one that sits well with me.

I just don't see a reason for it to arbitrarily change. I see the SSJ multiplier increasing with mastery, but that's the only change I can see making sense. SSJ isn't some magic power that comes from candy land, and some of it can get lost along the way. We've already established that it's not powered by an arbitrary fuel source (anger) that can go up and down and thus affect the power out-put of the form. Being angrier or calmer does not make your SSJ power larger or smaller (unless you're Gohan), so that's not a factor.

No comments or remarks are ever made indicating that the Super Saiya-jin multiplier simply changes at a whim. Nor is anyone's SSJ increase said to be more or less than that of someone else. So, we know that SSJ is not something that simply shifts about own its own, nor is it affected on an individual basis. It's a flat line increase across the board. Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Goten, and Trunks all get the same increase.

The only times any change to the multiplier for SSJ is ever implied is during the Cell arcs with the emergence of the SSJU and MSSJ states. However, SSJU is not really any different than Freeza's 100% power state. It's excess power, beyond what the form can naturally maintain and handle, being pumped in. MSSJ, on the other hand, does not force extra power beyond the normal into the form, but rather reduces the power consumption and strain of the form itself, thus allowing formerly wasted power to be utilized in battle and giving the appearance of an increased multiplier.

As has been seen in my lists I put MSSJ at a 100x increase. However, the actual multiplier never changed. The increase Goku obtains at the Cell Games with MSSJ is the same as the increase he obtained against Freeza as an SSJ. The difference comes entirely from the fact that he is not wasting any power at the Cell Games like he was against Freeza.

These are the only instances anything indicates a possible change to the multiplier, and even then (as I see it) the change is only an apparent one. SSJU is power dumped ontop of SSJ by drawing it from elsewhere (SSJ2, perhaps). MSSJ is just SSJ without waste, creating an apparent increase when it's still really the same, just more efficient.

Super Saiya-jin is not some out of control force. Ever before mastering the form access to it was possible at will. Maintaining the form was an act of will. At no point was it not a controlled force. There's no reason to set it apart from Kaioken other than the fact it persists, instead of being momentary.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I see what you mean. I don't know whether I agree with it or not, but it's interesting.

[Rocketman]

No comments or remarks are ever made indicating that the Super Saiya-jin multiplier simply changes at a whim. Nor is anyone's SSJ increase said to be more or less than that of someone else. So, we know that SSJ is not something that simply shifts about own its own, nor is it affected on an individual basis. It's a flat line increase across the board. Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Goten, and Trunks all get the same increase.

No comments are made because nobody thinks in multipliers by the time Super Saiyan shows up. Does, say, Trunks vs Goku change at all if Goku gets a 51x multiplier while Trunks gets 49x?

More relevant, say Vegeta only gets a x40 increase because he's always angry while the calmer Goku gets a x50 by unleashing his rage. Since nobody ever powers up in base after going Super, the multipliers are invisible to the peanut gallery. Goku's stronger Super Saiyan would be attributed to "better training".

[Xyex]

No comments or remarks are ever made indicating that the Super Saiya-jin multiplier simply changes at a whim. Nor is anyone's SSJ increase said to be more or less than that of someone else. So, we know that SSJ is not something that simply shifts about own its own, nor is it affected on an individual basis. It's a flat line increase across the board. Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Goten, and Trunks all get the same increase.

No comments are made because nobody thinks in multipliers by the time Super Saiyan shows up. Does, say, Trunks vs Goku change at all if Goku gets a 51x multiplier while Trunks gets 49x?

More relevant, say Vegeta only gets a x40 increase because he's always angry while the calmer Goku gets a x50 by unleashing his rage. Since nobody ever powers up in base after going Super, the multipliers are invisible to the peanut gallery. Goku's stronger Super Saiyan would be attributed to "better training".

Except that characters have gone from maximum base power to maximum SSJ power without anyone going "His increase has gotten smaller!"

[Rocketman]

Except that characters have gone from maximum base power to maximum SSJ power without anyone going "His increase has gotten smaller!"

Where they at maximum base power? How do you know?

And what about base future Gohan being able to deflect SS Trunks' attacks?

[dbgtFO]

Revised Dragonball power level list from the end of Freeza saga onwards.

1. SSJ is a 40X increase, when you are used to the form & 50X when pushed to its limits(Vegeta, future Trunks, Gohan and Goku achieves this). Concerning future Trunks vs future Gohan the explanation is that Trunks had to train to get used to the form giving him a lower multiplier, this is the same, as when Gohan tried to control it in the Room of spirit and time.
USSJ = SSJ*1,6. USSJ2 = USSJ*1,9. SSJ2 = SSJ*2

So we start with the final parts of the Freeza saga:

Goku = 3.500.000
Freeza(4%) = 4.800.000
- 50% = 60.000.000
Goku(worn) = 2.500.000
- Kaioken*20 with Kamehameha = 50.000.000
- Genkidama = 60.000.000
- Fatigued = 2.000.000
Freeza(50%, injured) = 40.000.000
Goku(SSJ) = 80.000.000
Freeza(70%) = 56.000.000
- 100% << 80.000.000 - it starts out as this and then decreases as the fight progresses.
- Tired = 24.000.000
- In half = 12.000.000

The boy from the future!

Chaozu = 13.000 - ... I actually really don't know, but he must be stronger than last time!
Yamchu = 60.000 - i believe Kullilin's potential > Yamcha training with King Kai
Tenshinhan = 90.000 - Tenshinhan trained hard, and it's tradition that he's stronger than Kullilin.
Kullilin= 75.000 - same as his max on Namek, due to not training.
Gohan= 450.000 - AFAIK he did'nt train, so maybe i'm giving him too much credit.
Piccolo(weighted)= 1.500.000. - Gohan stated he trained every day, because he is a warrior.
Vegeta = 2.900.000 - same as Piccolo, as stated by Bulma, his increase is lower than Piccolo, because he(Piccolo) is a fusion( yeah i know but that's the only way of explaining his increase 3 years later)
Mecha Freeza(4%) = 5.500.000. - Is stated to be stronger, so he is.
-(theoretical 100% power)= 137.500.000 - too bad he never got to show it.
King Cold = 11.000.000
-(theoretical full power)= 90.000.000 - Got this from apparently a fan made Daizenshuu scan lookalike.
Trunks(supp.) = 5 - technically the last PL measured ever, but also one of the lowest.
-(max) = 2.100.000.
-(SSJ) = 84.000.000
Goku = 3.000.000 - I don't think Goku trained anything else than Shunkan Ido meaning his power dropped.
-(SSJ) = 89.000.000 - doesn't power up to full cause he is only told to showcase his SSJ form.

Edit!!! The history of Trunks
Everybody are the same, when Freeza shows up on Earth, no Trunks of course .

The androids arrive
SSJ Goku before dying of heart virus = 180.000.000
19 = 50.000.000
20 = 50.000.000 - just like their main timeline counterparts.
Yamcha = 70.000 - no imminent threat = less training.
Kulilin = 100.000 - same as Yamcha plus perhaps Goku's death??
Tenshinhan = 1.000.000 - not as strong as main timeline, but Tenshinhan wouldn't stop training anyway.
Gohan = 500.000 - his father's dead, I'm sure he's not motivated at all!
Piccolo(max) = 45.000.000 - Piccolo would still continue his harsh training regimen, however with no SSJ Goku around his increase will be lower.
Vegeta = 4.00.000 - with no rival and no apparent threat, he finds it harder to push himself, he still has SSJ though.
- SSJ = 160.000.000 - enough to take out 19 and 20!
17 = 250.000.000 - same as main timeline.
18 = 220.000.000 - same as 17.

Gohan and Trunks vs. the cyborgs
Gohan = 3.000.000 - thinks he is weaker than his father.
- SSJ = 120.000.000.
17(half power) = 125.000.000 - Gohan is confident in beating them on his second try.
18(half power) = 110.000.000
Trunks = 1.200.000

Gohan and Trunks vs. the cyborgs part 2
Gohan = 3.500.000 - a little stronger than last time.
- SSJ = 140.000.000.
Trunks = 1.500.000
- Uncontrolled SSJ = 4.500.000
17(full power) = 250.000.000.
18(full power) = 220.000.000.

3 years later...
Trunks = 2.100.000.
- SSJ = 84.000.000.
And back to the present

The Cell saga

Yamcha = 120.000
Kulilin = 225.000
Tenshinhan = 2.000.000
Gohan = 1.500.000
Piccolo(suppressed with weights) = 10.000.000
Goku(heart virus) :< 5.000.000 - decreases relatively slowly because of his illness.
#19 = 50.000.000
Goku(SSJ) << 120.000.000 - starts out much lower than what it should be because of illness. SSJ makes his power drop even more rapid.
#19(Kamehameha absorbed) = 90.000.000
Goku(fatigued) = 2.000.000
#19(Goku absorbed) = 91.500.000
Vegeta = 5.100.000
- SSJ = 204.000.000
#20/Dr. Gero = 50.000.000
- Ki absorbed from Vegeta = 60.000.000
- Ki absorbed from Piccolo = 69.500.000
Piccolo(w/o weights max) = 90.000.000
Trunks = 3.500.000 - I assume he trained at least a little before going back.
- SSJ = 140.000.000

#16 = 360.000.000
#17 = 250.000.000
#18 = 220.000.000
Piccolo(fused with Kami with weights supp.) = 10.000.000
Cell(suppressed) = 20.000.000
- MAX = 200.000.000
Piccolo(with weights max) = 220.000.000
- Max w/o weights = 278.757.763 - stronger than #17, but #17 has infinite energy...
Cell(MAX) = 350.000.000
- #17 absorbed = 500.000.000 - he is suppressed.
Tenshinhan(Neo Kikoho) = 200.000.000
Vegeta = 10.000.000
- SSJ = 500.000.000
- USSJ ==< 800.000.000 - the weakness of this form is that you lose power over time.
Cell(#17 absorbed max) = 600.000.000
Trunks = 9.000.000
- SSJ = 450.000.000
- USSJ ==< 720.000.000
Perfect Cell(initial) = 820.000.000
Vegeta(USSJ) = 680.000.000 - due to the negative effects of the USSJ form Vegeta can only use this power in battle.
- Final Flash = 800.000.000 - back to full power in this blast, it costs him a lot of energy though due to the USSJ form.
Trunks(USSJ2) =< 855.000.000 - it's hard to tell if he's stronger than Cell, so he's just a little stronger.
- Full power << 1.368.000.000 - most certainly stronger than Cell, his speed however is inferior to his, and his power drops.
Perfect Cell(Buff) < 1.900.000.000

Goku = 32.000.000 - hypothetical base
- 50% FPSSJ = 800.000.000
Gohan = 40.000.000 - hypothetical base
Mr. Satan = 15
Goku(100% FPSSJ) = 1.600.000.000
Perfect Cell(80%) = 1.620.000.000
Gohan(85% FPSSJ) = 1.700.000.000
Cell Jrs. = 1.000.000.000
Goku(fatigued) < 750.000.000 - and decreasing
Piccolo(max) = 816.000.000
Vegeta and Trunks USSJ = 900.000.000
Gohan SSJ2 = 3.400.000.000
Perfect Cell(MAX) = 2.050.000.000
- Perfect Bulk(Batman + Hulk) = 3.075.000.000
Super Perfect Cell = 3.500.000.000
- MAX = 4.100.000.000.
Gohan SSJ2 MAX = 4.000.000.000.
EDIT: The power levels in the Buu saga are the same as my original list

[Xyex]

Except that characters have gone from maximum base power to maximum SSJ power without anyone going "His increase has gotten smaller!"

Where they at maximum base power? How do you know?

Trunks clearly powered up before transforming against Freeza, Goku appeared to do likewise against Gero. Sure, I can't think of any good examples later on in the series, but I think if the multiplier were to shrink any there would have been some indication given, such as the implications made in the Cell Saga that MSSJ grants more power than SSJ.

And what about base future Gohan being able to deflect SS Trunks' attacks?

We didn't see all of Trunks's training. Nothing says that he wasn't already severely exhausted by that point.

[dbgtFO]

Can we also make Battle statistics inside this thread? or do we need to make another one?
By battle statistics I mean a chart that lists speed, stamina, skill, strength etc.

[Kaboom]

Can we also make Battle statistics inside this thread? or do we need to make another one?
By battle statistics I mean a chart that lists speed, stamina, skill, strength etc.

By all means, go ahead!

[dbgtFO]

Can we also make Battle statistics inside this thread? or do we need to make another one?
By battle statistics I mean a chart that lists speed, stamina, skill, strength etc.

By all means, go ahead!

Nice I'll start right away.. with the first adventure!!
Period: The first adventure from Goku meets Bulma to Goku training with Kamesennin.
First a set of rules and concepts I'm going to follow.
Skill
Skill determines how good you are in a fight ie.: knowing, when to use certain techniques, exploiting opponents weak points etc. It has nothing to do with power however.
There are four types of power:
Physical power: All the power a body can access without the usage of ki, most humans have this. It is distributed onto the different fields, sometimes not equally.
Ki power: The power most characters use after learning about the concept of "Ki." With Ki one is able to exceed the body's physical limits, as you use the "Ki" inside you, that every living being has. Most aliens have this, most humans however have it, but are ignorant of it and are not able to use it. In most cases, if you train enough one's Ki power will eventually exceed that of one's physical power. Like physical power, ki power is also distributed onto the different fields.
Magical power: Special power only a few beings are capable of using like Dabra, Boss Rabbit and others. This power is mostly independent of the other powers. Magic powers of beings will be listed, when characters with those powers appear.
Psychic power: Special power, that only few people uses like Goku, Kamesennin, Chaozu and others. They are in some cases dependent of the other powers. Will be listed, when characters come along.
The four power types are combined to give you a total accesible Power.
The different fields(of physical and ki types) are:
Both Physical power and Ki power:
Strength: Obviously how strong characters are measured in how hard they punch, how much they can lift and how much they can push both horizontally(pushing a giant rock) and vertically(jumping strength).
Fight Speed: How fast characters are in a battle, also covers reflexes/reaction time.
Travel Speed: How fast characters can move their body's when traveling an unspecified distance(running, swimmin and climbing). It is based on how fast you can run 100 meters. If you do it in 10 seconds, your T speed would be= 10 if you do it in 9, your T speed will be= 10*(10/9), so Usain Bolt would have a T speed of 10*(10/9,58)= 10,44, an amazing feet among normal earthlings.
Durability: How much damage characters can withstand(Goku taking bullets and axes to the head for example).
Stamina: How long characters can fight witout tiring.
Only Ki power:
Ki based attacks: Kamehameha, Dodonpa, Final Flash and so on.
Bukujutsu: The ability to dance in the skys ie. flight.
Life threatening techniques: Kikoho, Kaioken and Shin Kikoho. Mafuba isn't if you are skilled enough(Kami didn't die).

I'll still use BPs(official and from my BP list) for this, the stats given will show how a character's stats are compared to BPs. Dodoria for example has a BP of 22.000, but he flies like he has a BP of 10.000. So all numbers given are BP's.
To make you get a grasp of how early DB characters compare to "Real world" humans, I've made these examples showing humans with the same power, but with different stats, based on what they do. One of them where strength, durability and travel speed is favoured(sprinters), others where fight speed, strenght, stamina and durability are favoured(martial arts).
Sprinter
Total power = 20
Ki power = 0 - we don't have it, I'm afraid.
Physical power = 20
-Strength = 3
-Fight speed = 2
-Travel Speed = 10,44
-Durability = 2
-Stamina = 2,56

Martial artist(Karate 10th Dan)
Power = 20
-Strength = 1,86
-Fight speed = 9
-Travel Speed = 7,14
-Durability = 1
-Stamina = 1

Weightlifter
Power = 20
-Strength = 9
-Fight speed = 1,5
-Travel Speed = 5,25
-Durability = 2,25
-Stamina = 1

Long distance runner
Power = 20
-Strength = 0,6
-Fight speed = 1,4
-Travel Speed = 8
-Durability = 1
-Stamina = 9

Now to begin the big adventure!!
Goku
Total Power = 80
Ki Power = 10
-1st. Kamehameha = 2
-2nd. Kamehameha = 4
Physical Power = 70
-Strength = 20
-Fight Speed = 11,3
-Travel Speed = 11,7
-Durability = 15
-Stamina = 12
Skill = 50
Notes on early Goku: When we are introduced to this young sap we see, that he is no a whole different level, than normal earthlings ie. breaking trees apart with his bare hands, surviving a gunshot and an axe to the head. In all departments he is above, what I would deem possible for "real world" humans.

Bulma
Total power = 10
Ki power = 4
Physical power = 6
-Strength = 0,475
-Fight Speed = 0,15
-Travel Speed = 5
-Durability = 0,25
-Stamina = 0,125
Notes: She is not strong only in gag scenes.

Bear Thief(I don't wanna include the dinosaur)
Total power = 48
Ki power = 8
Physical power = 40
-Strength = 13
-Fight Speed = 3,5
-Travel Speed = 7
-Durability = 7,5
-Stamina = 9
Skill = 15
Notes: Seems pretty strong, but he looks to me like he's mostly a brawler, he could still squash most normal humans though.

Kamesennin will appear later...
Oolong
Total power = 13
Ki power = 3
Physical power = 3
-Strength = 0,3
-Fight Speed = 0,25
-Travel Speed = 2
-Durability = 0,35
-Stamina = 0,1
Magical power = 7
-Transform(any form during 5 mins. plus pause of 1 min.) = 7
Notes: Most of his power comes from magic, he is very weak physically as seen, when he couldn't carry Bulma on his back.

Yamcha
Total power = 55
Ki power = 5
Physical power = 50
-Strength = 15
-Fight Speed = 10
-Travel Speed = 10
-Durability = 5,5
-Stamina = 9,5
Skill = 35
Notes: Yamcha seems to be pretty talented fighter, when we first meet him he almost defeats hungry Goku and is almost on par with full Goku.

Chichi
Total power = 15
Ki power = 3 - she is still a kid.
Physical power = 12
-Strength = 3
-Fight Speed = 1,6
-Travel Speed = 4
-Durability = 1,5
-Stamina = 1,9
Skill = 5
Notes: Chichi was trained by Gyumao, so she is very strong for her age.

Gyumao
Total power = 115
Ki power = 15 - I don't think Ki increases, that much, when you are not training it specifically.
Physical power = 100
-Strength = 50
-Fight Speed = 23
-Travel Speed = 11
-Durability = 11,5
-Stamina = 4,5
Skill = 40
Notes: Being a former student of Muten Roshi, Gyumao is very strong, but since there were no apparent equal to him, where he lived his power has dropped. He is still able to slaughter many people.. which he did.

Kamesennin
Total power = 270
Ki power = 120
-Kamehameha(MAX powered) = 90
Physical power = 90
-Strength = 15
-Fight Speed = 35
-Travel Speed = 17,86
-Durability = 12
-Stamina = 10,14
Psychic power = 60
-Hypnosis = 12
-Telepathy = 15
-Paralysis = 33
Skill = 80
Notes: Roshi is physically weaker, when Goku is able to move a rock farther than he could, but this is because his power has been diminished over time, since he is old and haven't trained in all these years. Things will change, when I reach the 21st. TB...

Boss Rabbit
Total power = 9013
Ki power = 5
Physical power = 8
-Strength = 0,6
-Fight Speed = 0,3
-Travel Speed = 6
-Durability = 0,4
-Stamina = 0,7
Magical power = 9000 - I'm not kidding.
-Turn people into carrots, just by touching them = 3000
-Revert the transformation, which only he knows how to do = 6000.
Notes: He isn't strong, but his magic is very effective.

I don't wan't to list Pilaf, Shuu and Mai.
Oozaru Goku
Total power = 800
Ki power = 100
Physical power = 700
-Strength = 200
-Fight Speed = 113
-Travel Speed = 117
-Durability = 150
-Stamina = 120
Skill = pretty much non existant...
Notes: Everything times ten, as Vegeta claims.
Well now I'm done with the first part, which was kind of an introduction to this new thing. Next one up the training with Muten Roshi & the 21st TB.

[Olympian]

I am a little in doubt when comparing Kuririn after the power up in Namek, with Yamucha and Ten after training with Kai. We know the training happened, even if it was off panel for the reader, and we get nothing from Tenshinhan when the androids show up, in terms of how much you can guess, but Yamucha was mistaken for Goku, a Goku that despite not being SS, was accounted for having travelled to Namek when he faced Freeza`s forces.

He had the same three year training motivation as Kuririn, and also on his own. Surely, the gap can`t be that big?

[dbgtFO]

I am a little in doubt when comparing Kuririn after the power up in Namek, with Yamucha and Ten after training with Kai. We know the training happened, even if it was off panel for the reader, and we get nothing from Tenshinhan when the androids show up, in terms of how much you can guess, but Yamucha was mistaken for Goku, a Goku that despite not being SS, was accounted for having travelled to Namek when he faced Freeza`s forces.

He had the same three year training motivation as Kuririn, and also on his own. Surely, the gap can`t be that big?

In base form the gap might not be that large as I made it(by androids arc I have Goku being more than 25 times stronger than Yamcha). You could be right, but remember AFAIK he didn't keep check of Goku not even after Namek, so he probably didn't know about Goku's power in base form had risen that much(because of 100G training and zenkai).
Making it perfectly reasonable to assume, that Yamcha(with a PL of 120.000 in my list) was Goku, when the best Goku did on earth was over 24.000. It also fits with his statements about Goku not being able to improve, that much in those 4 years.
Edit: And perhaps I'm giving Kulilin too much credit, or Yamcha too little?