Favourite GT Scene/Fight/Saga

[mysticboy]

Super 17 saga.

[Raithos]

Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta Vs Omega Shenron
arguably the strongest character in the anime DBZ-verse, and yes I know he's not in the manga, that's why I said anime

[Ussj Future Trunks]

Arguably? What can you argue? That Krillin is stronger because he beat base Goku? Gogeta is strongest. Nothing else in Dbz can even try to faze him.

[Raithos]

Arguably? What can you argue? That Krillin is stronger because he beat base Goku? Gogeta is strongest. Nothing else in Dbz can even try to faze him.

Vegetto can come pretty close, he's stronger than gogeta, If gogeta were to ascend to SSj3, I think he could take SSJ4 Gogeta. His power was ludicrous. That's about the only argue I have in my mind, I keep trying to think if Vegeta, and Goku both went SSj4 and then put on the fusion earrings woah woah woah, SSJ4 Vegetto? Are you kidding me? it'd be overrrr

[Ussj Future Trunks]

Um what? No. SSJ4 is a whole other league to SSJ3. Vegetto if he went SSj4 would be the strongest but that's a what if. Potarra was strong but not that much stronger than the dance.

[Raithos]

hmm true, I'd like to see that fight though
I would PAY to see it

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

I really liked the Bebi arc; he was a good villian. The concept of him being the vessel of the Tuffle race (similar to Brainiac from the DCAU) was kind of cool. It was interesting how he turned the tables by enslaving all of Earth, taking over his nemesis Vegeta, and making Goku the odd man out when he returned from space. In a warped way, Goku was the villian and Bebi was protecting his planet from him. A sort of role reversal of the Saiyan arc in it's own way.

Bebi took on the role of anti Goku (so to speak) with the support of the whole planet (although they were enslaved). Goku's and Vegeta's kids and wife rallied behind him, and he even had his own version of the Spirit Bomb. Even though this arc could have been done better, it was refreshing to see a come so close to winning. It's a shame Vegeta could not have somehow kept the “Bebei Vegeta” look as a new power up (a an alternate to SSJ3).

Best fight definately goes to the Para Para Bros.

Hell, if DBGT wasn't so shallow, perhaps, instead of the whole cliched "Kamehameha into the Sun" ending to the Baby arc, Baby could've seen the error in his "sins of the father, sins of the son" thinking (for instance, Goku and Baby could have an epic, bloody fistfight, and Baby would scream something like, "Why do you continue fighting? Why won't you give up?!", to which Goku would reply, "I'm fighting for my people!" Baby, angered, would yell, "These aren't your people! You're just a filthy Saiyan!", and Goku would give the same line he said back in DBZ, "I'm a Saiyan, but I was raised on Earth!!", causing Baby to understand that Goku is a person first, and a Saiyan second) and have some sort of symbotic relationship with Vegeta. White-haired Vegeta looked pretty rad!

Then, later in the series, Baby would be killed off for some reason or another, such as using all of his power to protect Vegeta from a lethal attack. After a touching death scene, including Vegeta's apology to the Tsufuru race and Baby on behalf of the Saiyan race, Vegeta would return to normal again. Vegeta could even do something like transform into a Super Saiyan 3 in a fit of rage!

"Baby! I'll show you the pride and power of the Saiyan race!!"

That's kinda cliched itself, but I have a thing for the redemption of evil characters.

[Ussj Future Trunks]

"Villain turning good" is more cliche than "Kamehameha into the sun". We already have Nova Shenron.

[Rory]

Um what? No. SSJ4 is a whole other league to SSJ3. Vegetto if he went SSj4 would be the strongest but that's a what if. Potarra was strong but not that much stronger than the dance.

Technically Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta can also be considered a "what-if", as Dragon Ball Online seems to be erasing GT completely in terms of canonical story (not that fans held it as a solid piece of canon anyway).

[Cipher]

Technically Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta can also be considered a "what-if", as Dragon Ball Online seems to be erasing GT completely in terms of canonical story (not that fans held it as a solid piece of canon anyway).

I'm sorry, but my bullshit detectors fire so hard every time someone says this.

Gogeta exists within the slightly separate anime universe. End of story. And I think it's a bit much to slap a label of "what-if" on a character or scene that has been an official story element in any version of the series, except for fans just chomping at the bit to forget GT and blindly follow whatever business venture Toriyama has currently been asked to sign off on.

That's like saying no one can consider the hundred-plus episodes to feature Krang in the original Ninja Turtles cartoon because he's just a "what-if" for not appearing in the comics.

*snip*

I'm confused. Did you just use this thread to push two paragraphs of awful fanfiction?

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

*snip*

I'm confused. Did you just use this thread to push two paragraphs of awful fanfiction?

I was only half-serious. (GT is pretty much awful fanfiction, anyway, isn't it?)

[Ussj Future Trunks]

Dragonball Online sucks anyway. Since when can Shenron make Humans saiyans when he couldn't make 18 human?

[Kaboom]

Dragonball Online sucks anyway. Since when can Shenron make Humans saiyans when he couldn't make 18 human?

He couldn't make 18 human against her will, since she was more powerful than Dende and thus unable to be effected by a wish. We don't know for sure if he could do it or not if she actually wished for it.

Also, all the playable humans in DBO are distant descendants of the Saiyans from the manga. Shenlong isn't "making" them Saiyans. All he seems to be doing when making them Super Saiyans is bringing out some latent, ancestral power.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Um what? No. SSJ4 is a whole other league to SSJ3. Vegetto if he went SSj4 would be the strongest but that's a what if. Potarra was strong but not that much stronger than the dance.

Technically Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta can also be considered a "what-if", as Dragon Ball Online seems to be erasing GT completely in terms of canonical story (not that fans held it as a solid piece of canon anyway).

Dragon Ball Online isn't canon. Was it in the Manga? No. So it isn't canon.

[Saimaroimaru]

Um what? No. SSJ4 is a whole other league to SSJ3. Vegetto if he went SSj4 would be the strongest but that's a what if. Potarra was strong but not that much stronger than the dance.

Technically Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta can also be considered a "what-if", as Dragon Ball Online seems to be erasing GT completely in terms of canonical story (not that fans held it as a solid piece of canon anyway).

Dragon Ball Online isn't canon. Was it in the Manga? No. So it isn't canon.

People are starting to believe its canon since Akira is working on has has been for at least 5 years plus its contradictions to GT(Buu having a child and spawning a race of bubble gum people aka Majin) Its seen as how Akira would have continued the story after Z by some fans. Either way if it gets US port its gonna start a GT VS DBO war.

[MajinVegetaSSj6]

Fight: Vegeta Vs Baby-Gohan & Goten

Saga: Baby

[Rory]

Dragon Ball Online isn't canon. Was it in the Manga? No. So it isn't canon.

Just 'cause it's not in manga for doesn't rule it out. Toriyama made the story and designs, so why isn't it canon? It's a continuation of the series done in video game form.
That's more than good enough for me.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Just 'cause it's not in manga for doesn't rule it out. Toriyama made the story and designs, so why isn't it canon?

Because the DBO story doesn't appear in the Manga. Canon is strictly what's in the Manga. Period. I personally consider DBO a side story, like GT (which Toriyama also did the designs for).

[MCDaveG]

I like most those fights Gohan vs Goten and Vegeta vs Gohan. But there aren't any worthy fights for me, because everything is so rushed and cheesy/recycled.

[Cipher]

Because the DBO story doesn't appear in the Manga. Canon is strictly what's in the Manga. Period. I personally consider DBO a side story, like GT (which Toriyama also did the designs for).

You know, I do kind of lean toward this. His involvement in DBO is almost identical to his involvement in GT. He provides character designs and basic premises, tailored to what the directors/producers want to include.

Even the character histories he's written for it are specifically tailored to accommodate game elements, such as Buu reproducing, or Krillin developing a certain human-based style of fighting. Until he comes out and says, "This is exactly where I picture the manga going," I'm willing to bet that he's only ever viewed it as a fun game-based "what-if" continuation. Basically something that uses the manga as its base, but which the manga doesn't necessarily lead into on its own, if that makes sense. This is a man who ended the series by saying, "You imagine the rest on your own." I really doubt he's using a game he's been asked to provide elements for as any kind of serious manifesto. More like, "You need a Majin race? Okay, well then maybe this happens."

As opposed to GT, which is the hard-and-fast true conclusion to the original anime series. Not to the manga or even Kai, but certainly to the original anime.