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Re: "Raging Blast 2" Pre-Release Discussion

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:44 am

LeprikanGT wrote:That would be great, maybe someone besides Goku and Yamcha. I'd like the demo characters to be someone besides Vegeta/Yamcha/Goku/Piccolo. It's just like how they always show Goku and Vegeta when introducing a new game, we get it, those 2 will always be in games, bring someone else to the forefront.

Side thought.....Why doesn't Vegeta have Galick Gun as an Ultimate when it clearly is one?
Why would he? It is fine as a super. The "evil" Vegeta is from the Saiyan Saga to the the Freeza Saga, and his Raging Blast ultimate is clearly the best choice. It was the prince's final all out attack against the most powerful form of the ultimate evil tyrant who enslaved him from childhood and eradicated almost his entire race. It was after this attack was deflected by Freeza that he realized he had no hope to win and gave up the will to fight. If he didn't throw out his most powerful attack against Freeza, then I dunno who he would... Even after Goku blew through his Gallick Gun, he just came back looking for another way to beat the shit out of him.

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Post by LeprikanGT » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:01 am

I was saying Vegeta needed Galick gun as an ultimate became that's pretty much the only time he ever uses it was when he was fighting Goku on Earth as an ultimate attack to destroy the planet.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:09 am

So? Why would you give someone a weaker version of an attack for an ultimate? That's like saying they should give base Goku the Super Kamehameha from the Piccolo Jr. fight instead of the Genki Dama because that is basically the only time he uses the "Super" version. The Super Gallick Gun type move, Burst Cannon or whatever Spike calls it, from the Freeza fight is obviously Vegeta's most powerful move at the time and should be given the most powerful spot.
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Re: "Raging Blast 2" Pre-Release Discussion

Post by Thanos » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:24 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:I was saying Vegeta needed Galick gun as an ultimate became that's pretty much the only time he ever uses it was when he was fighting Goku on Earth as an ultimate attack to destroy the planet.
YEAH. Thanks. Finally, someone points that out. The only rationale I can come up with is they want something that's like the ying yang shit as Vegeta's Kamehameha in these games.


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Post by LeprikanGT » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:44 pm

Yeah, I've noticed its not ALWAYS the case that a person's strongest move is their finisher. But Galick gun WAS only used once IIRC yet its his auto generic attack. I'm interested to see what they will be giving the androids as finishers since they only did one or two non generic moes in the movie aside from melee rushes.

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Re: "Raging Blast 2" Pre-Release Discussion

Post by Vegeta's Wire » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:21 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote: As for the demo... Goku (Base, SS), Vegeta "evil", and Tullece. Goku because he has to be in and we need a transformation, Vegeta because he's the anti-Goku and it prevents another transformation, and Tullece since he's a "new" addition and from around the same era.
I think that's very unlikely, although I would like to try Tullece. My guess would go to the same two characters that previously appeared on the Raging Blast's demo: Goku and Piccolo...
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Post by LeprikanGT » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:07 pm

I don't think they would add a movie character. I'm thinking if a character didn't see Nappa alive, they won't be in a demo.

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Post by mysticboy » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:28 pm

That Final Flash type move Vegeta used on Recoome could've been a super.

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Post by LeprikanGT » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:09 pm

Or atleast a move in general. I've always hated what they did with final flash. It's not really a 'beam' but not really one of those move gohany has where it just shoots a bit of energy in front of him. Final flash should spread out the further it gets.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:35 pm

Vegeta's Wire wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote: As for the demo... Goku (Base, SS), Vegeta "evil", and Tullece. Goku because he has to be in and we need a transformation, Vegeta because he's the anti-Goku and it prevents another transformation, and Tullece since he's a "new" addition and from around the same era.
I think that's very unlikely, although I would like to try Tullece. My guess would go to the same two characters that previously appeared on the Raging Blast's demo: Goku and Piccolo...
See, I'm just hoping that they don't stick us with the same 4 characters for the demo again. Last time we got Goku, SS Goku, Piccolo and Raditz. I'd like to think they would give us one of the new characters from RB2 as a "this is what you'll be missing if you don't buy the game" deal, and then switch out Piccolo for Goku's other rival. So to keep everything contained to the Saiyan Saga, we get Vegeta (Evil) and Tullece.

It makes sense to me... lol
LeprikanGT wrote:I don't think they would add a movie character. I'm thinking if a character didn't see Nappa alive, they won't be in a demo.
As I said above, they need to advertise a new character. Let us get our hands on one of the guys they added in this time around to make us want to buy the game, and since Tullece is still kinda related to the Saiyan Saga, he makes the most sense to me.
LeprikanGT wrote:Or atleast a move in general. I've always hated what they did with final flash. It's not really a 'beam' but not really one of those move gohany has where it just shoots a bit of energy in front of him. Final flash should spread out the further it gets.
I don't think he mean Super as in Ultimate, he meant Super as in Super. lol So you just said the same thing he did.

It is a beam, and it looks arlight, Vegeta just fires the beam prenarrowed instead of doing so after firing. You either need to let it be a beam, so it can be hurled across the stage, or let it be like Gohan's Masendan(?) or Dodoria's ultimate with terrible range to make up for the fact that it spreads out. I personally see it fine as a beam, and the cutscene shows it engulfing the opponent pretty nicely anyway.
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Re: "Raging Blast 2" Pre-Release Discussion

Post by Fishman » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:17 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:let it be like Gohan's Masendan(?)
You're thinking of Explosive Madan in Sparking! METEOR. This was changed to Explosive Cannon in Raging Blast. Masendan is Kid Gohan's Rush Ultimate, last I checked. It's the rage physical combo followed by a beam that he used on Third-Form Freeza.
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Post by LeprikanGT » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:21 am

It should be a combo of the two. It NEEDS to be long range but also its not just a plain straight beam.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:11 am

Fishman wrote:You're thinking of Explosive Madan in Sparking! METEOR. This was changed to Explosive Cannon in Raging Blast. Masendan is Kid Gohan's Rush Ultimate, last I checked. It's the rage physical combo followed by a beam that he used on Third-Form Freeza.
That's probably it. I don't keep up with the game names for attacks, they change between every series.
LeprikanGT wrote:It should be a combo of the two. It NEEDS to be long range but also its not just a plain straight beam.
That's probably not going to happen. Judging from one of the demo videos, someone's Kamehameha like blast didn't even reach halfway across the stage in the air, no obstructions. It just stopped before it hit the target. It's common sense that if you are going to have the hit box for the attack spread out, the range has to be shortened for gameplay balance. If you want the Final Flash to fan out, it would have to have like 1/3 to 1/2 the distance of a normal beam.
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Post by Kingdom Heartless » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:40 am

It's kind of a shame that evil Vegeta is always a separate character in this series, for the sole reason, I love using SSJ Scouter Vegeta in the Budokai series.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:38 am

Hm...Dore confirmed... expect Sauza to be confirmed some time soon then, possibly Neiz too? Not liking this addition, or Sauza's inevitable return.

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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:34 am

Are there any decent scans of these recent pages? I mean, these glossy/reflected/zoomed/etc. shots are far too easily faked. I don't disbelieve them or anything... I just find it odd that we don't have any full-page, properly-aligned scans popping up yet.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:14 am

As far as I'm aware, all of these so far are from random magazine advertisements, I don't have any of the names for them though. Supposedly the two images of the scan with 14 came from independent sources, but hell if I really know. If you can wait till about Friday, V-Jump should be out and clear at least some up some of this mess.

I swear though, after this giant hassle with Pokemon Black and White and all the fakes I've been thrown, I'm gonna scream bloody murder if they start in on my Dragon Ball games too...
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Post by DNA » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:14 am

Awww shit, I called it! Hah.

But I do agree with Mike, thanks for bursting my bubble dude, but it is true, gotta be checked for truthfulness first!

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Post by Kingdom Heartless » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:36 am

With all these characters popping up, I wonder who they would pull out for the third one?

If it's good, I might even buy it new, rather than second hand, just to support a third game.
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Post by LeprikanGT » Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:47 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Hm...Dore confirmed... expect Sauza to be confirmed some time soon then, possibly Neiz too? Not liking this addition, or Sauza's inevitable return.

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Why did they pick HIM to be in over the 3rd henchmen? [the one with the funny shaped head that can suck it into his body like a turlte.] This is the first new character I dislike. They could have added Sauza instead and been just fine with the Cooler movie. I'd rather have seen that guy from the Trurles movie with all the shiny armor that looks like silly putty and has rockets shooting out of him.

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