Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[Kaboom]

What's more, the story has spent more time so far since their fight started cutting away to everyone's continued Broly-fest out in space.

[Sshadow5001]

Maybe Yamucha is just stretching the truth a little.

[Dayspring]

Wait, 10 years top? So the androids' batteries have a maximum lifespan of 35-40 years? I actually like that. It uses one of the two possible reasons for their being weaker against Trunks, as well as explains why Gero abandoned the "superior" model and went with the absorption-class.

[Kingdom Heartless]

It uses one of the two possible reasons for their being weaker against Trunks, as well as explains why Gero abandoned the "superior" model and went with the absorption-class.

For himself, yes, but he really had no use for #17, #18 or #19 over that period of time.

EDIT: I suppose if he was reviving the Red Ribbon Army, he might have wanted them around, but I don't really think he would be happy about having them around all the time.

[Olympian]

Anyhow...it looks like Yamcha might win this fight!

What manga were you reading? He was toying with 18 since the fight started. Unfortunately, its dragged on way too long until its just become a Yamcha wankfest of owning 18 for way too many pages. Yes he's stronger. Yes he's a cyborg (why Trunks and Goten care that some weak human is really a robot, i'll never understand) we get it. Not to mention Buu being pissed then saying "Just kidding" was really anticlimactic for such a climactic fight.

Is this the kind of attitude you should have on a thread, where a fan Manga is being displayed for you at zero cost? Whoever counts the actual pages (and panels) where Yamcha`s fight have been happening, knows it was not dragged. A cyborg is not a robot. And why they would care that a long lived allie is one of them, is too obvious to even mention.

To all those involved with the work, a major thanks, it`s certainly no small job to be proud of and i am liking the result so far. Being a fan of the humans, i am liking this particular rendition of the two, and can only wait for Tenshinhan to show up.

[dbgtFO]

@ Olympian
I like the human universe at well(U9 that is), but it irritates me that Yamcha has to be a cyborg to be considered a challenge for the saiyans, it would be nice if he was like Krillin(who apparently isn't a cyborg) being incredibly strong without anything, but his own ki powering him, if Tenshinhan is a cyborg as well it just won't feel right, but then again it's Salagir's concept and since he's doing a great job I really shouldn't go after him like that.

All I just want to see is base humans or saiyans for that matter fighting at their best in base form without the need of transformations or other cheap power ups like being turned into a cyborg. That's also why I liked base Vegetto vs. Super Buuhan even though it's non cannon and probably couldn't have happened anyway.
Well now that that's off my chest let me just say that this fan manga is doing a really good job at keeping me entertained. How many pages did they actually plan out?? 500+ or something? it is a bit much for a non profit, high quality, time consuming manga like that..

[Dayspring]

@ Olympian
I like the human universe at well(U9 that is), but it irritates me that Yamcha has to be a cyborg to be considered a challenge for the saiyans, it would be nice if he was like Krillin(who apparently isn't a cyborg) being incredibly strong without anything, but his own ki powering him, if Tenshinhan is a cyborg as well it just won't feel right, but then again it's Salagir's concept and since he's doing a great job I really shouldn't go after him like that.

All I just want to see is base humans or saiyans for that matter fighting at their best in base form without the need of transformations or other cheap power ups like being turned into a cyborg. That's also why I liked base Vegetto vs. Super Buuhan even though it's non cannon and probably couldn't have happened anyway.
Well now that that's off my chest let me just say that this fan manga is doing a really good job at keeping me entertained. How many pages did they actually plan out?? 500+ or something? it is a bit much for a non profit, high quality, time consuming manga like that..

The current dialogue between Yamcha and #18 implies that the cyborg power within him has been used up (or is well on its way to being used up). In other words, besides keeping him young, Yamcha being a cyborg has no affect on him at all.

What I want to know is why nobody from universes where #18 is good thinks this conversation is important. YA JUST LEARNED SHE'S GONNA DIE WITHOUT YAMCHA'S HELP! YA MIGHT WANNA PAY ATTENTION!

[batistabus]

Under 50% doesn't have to mean 49.99%, but it does mean it's somewhere around 50%. If you had 25 bucks in your pocket, would you say you have under 70? No. The intent is that it isn't quite half, but it's pretty close. That's just how language works, unless it's just a bad translation.

And am I the only one that isn't bothered by the "You won't be able to walk in 10 years" thing?

[ShiningMoon]

And am I the only one that isn't bothered by the "You won't be able to walk in 10 years" thing?

Naw.
I just assumed that Yamcha was stretching the truth anyway. Y'know. Hyperbole. Not everything everyone says is the exact truth all the time, and we shouldn't assume so! Just maybe he was driving home the "your artificial power doesn't last forever" and "machiney bits require maintenance" points. (My immediate impression was, "If you keep making that face, it'll stick like that!" but that's just me.)

To drive the "50%" point into the ground, if I scored well on a test I wouldn't say I got over 50%. I'd say I got over 80% or over 90%. If you're prone to bragging, you're gonna make yourself sound as awesome as possible. So if Seventeen was using (say) 15% of his power, he probably would have said "less than 20%" or "less than a quarter" or something.

[Ussj Future Trunks]

Man, people will find anything to complain about with this comic.

Yeah but it's not Yamcha. It's 17 or whatever the fuck. And i don't care about 17. I want an actual strong Human Yamcha. That was the entire attraction of U9. Humans saving themselves. But now its just another android universe. What a bunch of fucking shit. I'm just waiting for Bra, Cell and Gotenks. Fuck 17. And fuck this fight. I don't care if he's trying to help her. 6 pages could have been three with all the useless blabbing about how strong Yamcha is. And why the fuck would Trunks and Goten care? Have they ever even met Yamcha?

What I want to know is why nobody from universes where #18 is good thinks this conversation is important. YA JUST LEARNED SHE'S GONNA DIE WITHOUT YAMCHA'S HELP! YA MIGHT WANNA PAY ATTENTION

What did you expect from a fucking bullshit fight?

[Kaboom]

Yeah but it's not Yamcha. It's 17 or whatever the fuck. And i don't care about 17. I want an actual strong Human Yamcha. That was the entire attraction of U9. Humans saving themselves. But now its just another android universe. What a bunch of fucking shit. I'm just waiting for Bra, Cell and Gotenks. Fuck 17. And fuck this fight. I don't care if he's trying to help her. 6 pages could have been three with all the useless blabbing about how strong Yamcha is. And why the fuck would Trunks and Goten care? Have they ever even met Yamcha?

What did you expect from a fucking bullshit fight?

You don't like the way the fight is progressing. Okay, whatever. But as a mod, I'm asking you to rein in the attitude about it, alright? You used the word "fuck" six times in such a short post. I know there's no "bad language" rule or anything, but... geez.

As a wise man once said, "Settle down, Beavis."

[JulieYBM]

A human mind developed the Artificial Human technology.

Now that's what I call winning a fight with yer mind, yo!

[Big Momma]

Anyhow...it looks like Yamcha might win this fight!

What manga were you reading? He was toying with 18 since the fight started. Unfortunately, its dragged on way too long until its just become a Yamcha wankfest of owning 18 for way too many pages.

Really? Are you kidding me? This fight has taken up around 4 1/2 out of the last 13 pages. That's not much at all.

[FindKenshi]

Yamcha is gonna' lose this fight. I'm calling it now. His efforts to "reach" to No. 18 and "help her", are gonna' leave him wide open.

[Kingdom Heartless]

I doubt Yamucha's cyborg powers are gone. I'm sure Bulma has been keeping his machinery in order.... especially since there's no Vegeta!

[TonyTheTiger]

I do agree with Ussj Future Trunks to a point. U9 was great because it was just the humans who managed to apparently beat the Saiyans, Freeza, and whoever else showed up. Yamcha's potential crowning moment of awesome, when he can toy with 18 while simultaneously help her find inner peace, is stolen from him because now he's got the super power up from Dr. Gero.

So, yeah. While I'm not as upset about it as Ussj Future Trunks, I can sympathize. Honestly the whole "not being able to walk" thing bothers me more. I'm not even sure why. Like I said, it just takes things one step too far. I really do hope it's just hyperbole but I doubt it.

What I do hope happens is Yamcha is making up the whole thing about being an android to facilitate the conversation and earn 18's trust so she'll let him help her.

[Olympian]

@ Olympian
I like the human universe at well(U9 that is), but it irritates me that Yamcha has to be a cyborg to be considered a challenge for the saiyans, it would be nice if he was like Krillin(who apparently isn't a cyborg) being incredibly strong without anything, but his own ki powering him, if Tenshinhan is a cyborg as well it just won't feel right, but then again it's Salagir's concept and since he's doing a great job I really shouldn't go after him like that.

I don`t get the feeling that Yamcha is using much of his reserves at all. He pretty much laid out that he was a better fighter than her right out for starters ( i may be wrong, if one of the authors see it this way, please correct me). Which i always though it was something Toryama should have focused on in the original work. Humans may have been weaker than other races, but they should always have been among the best hand to hand fighters with the most creative techniques. At one point, Toryama just started drawing everyone fighting the same way, which stole the whole importance of skill. Visually, it ended being simply little difference between, say, a character that looked and acted like a brawler to a character who had a long lived Martial Arts training. Not unless it was in some Tourney against no names.

All I just want to see is base humans or saiyans for that matter fighting at their best in base form without the need of transformations or other cheap power ups like being turned into a cyborg. That's also why I liked base Vegetto vs. Super Buuhan even though it's non cannon and probably couldn't have happened anyway.
Well now that that's off my chest let me just say that this fan manga is doing a really good job at keeping me entertained. How many pages did they actually plan out?? 500+ or something? it is a bit much for a non profit, high quality, time consuming manga like that..

I have done my share of try outs in the past and can say it`s insane. So i can only give kudos, whether the fights happen to be up my taste or not.

Man, people will find anything to complain about with this comic.

Yeah but it's not Yamcha. It's 17 or whatever the fuck. And i don't care about 17. I want an actual strong Human Yamcha. That was the entire attraction of U9. Humans saving themselves. But now its just another android universe. What a bunch of fucking shit. I'm just waiting for Bra, Cell and Gotenks. Fuck 17. And fuck this fight. I don't care if he's trying to help her. 6 pages could have been three with all the useless blabbing about how strong Yamcha is.

Right, right. But you know, there are much better ways to express yourself over a fan comic. And again, it wasen`t six pages. You had another fight in between.

And why the fuck would Trunks and Goten care? Have they ever even met Yamcha?

....yes?

I do agree with Ussj Future Trunks to a point. U9 was great because it was just the humans who managed to apparently beat the Saiyans, Freeza, and whoever else showed up. Yamcha's potential crowning moment of awesome, when he can toy with 18 while simultaneously help her find inner peace, is stolen from him because now he's got the super power up from Dr. Gero.

We don`t know when he got to become a cyborg. We don`t know (i think) if it was from Gero. We don`t even know if it`s actually the truth or not. And i am going to guess that U9 Kuririn also got a power up of sorts somewhere, you know...just like Goku and co had all the time, in whatever universe, really.

What I do hope happens is Yamcha is making up the whole thing about being an android to facilitate the conversation and earn 18's trust so she'll let him help her.

Either way it`s fine by me, i just enjoy watching Yamcha laying the smackdown on that candy ass. And a nice ass at that.

Yamcha is gonna' lose this fight. I'm calling it now. His efforts to "reach" to No. 18 and "help her", are gonna' leave him wide open.

Don`t jinx it, darn it.

Anyway, if that happens, it`s going to be because he lets it, not because she is stronger, that much integrity is saved by now.

[rereboy]

As far as Salagir explanation goes, it is true that no machine or mechanism will work forever as efficiently as it did when it was brand new. At least not without maintenance.

Even an hipothetical engine which constantly produces X energy out of nothing (without fuel), after a while (years) will not work as efficiently and its power output wil probably be lower.

Therefore, it is logical that 18`s cyborg parts aren`t working as efficiently as Yamcha`s parts because Yamcha had frequent maintenance and 18`s parts are older.

It is a very good explanation which actually doesn`t go against anything in the manga (or other source) and explains a plothole.

[TrunksTrevelyan0064]

Wow. Broly is finally gone, yet people still complain.
I'm just happy to see Yamcha get some screentime, even if he's gotta do it as a cyborg. Also, just because he is one, doesn't mean Kuririn and Tenshinhan are. I imagine ol' three-eyes to have plenty of skill and talent to keep up with everyone even without cybernetic upgrades.

Just saying that 5 pages of Yamcha is very refreshing after 100 pages of Broly.

Anyways this fight will be over soon, and we'll get to more interesting stuffz. That's what I missed most during the gigantic Broly-fest; new battles with two new interesting characters every 10 pages or so.

[Ussj Future Trunks]

It's not Yamcha. Its 17 who happens to look like Yamcha. Even Broly had decent action and other characters being awesome (Notably how Namek catches a blast with one hand with his eyes closed and Bra seeing her father's true power for the first time etc. ) This is just two unimportant characters given an unecessary plot twist and overlong boring fight with no change in pace or any kind of new moves.