Discussion specifically regarding the "refreshed" TV version of DBZ created in Japan for its 20th anniversary, including individual threads for each episode.
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by Zephyr » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:27 am
MetalMadness wrote:You know, if you some of you hardcore fans really want Z's original soundtrack in Kai and are willing to work for it, you could always extract your Kai episodes onto the computer, edit out the Kai music, and replace it with Z's music, and there you go!
For added bonus, you could edit the video as well and replace the censored scenes with Z's uncut scenes.
That would require not only purchasing the necessary software to do so, but it would require purchasing the entirety of Kai and Z on DVD (not that I haven't contemplated doing exactly this). But yeah, you said
hardcore.
I'm too poor to be hardcore.
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by Puto » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:04 am
Zephyr wrote:MetalMadness wrote:You know, if you some of you hardcore fans really want Z's original soundtrack in Kai and are willing to work for it, you could always extract your Kai episodes onto the computer, edit out the Kai music, and replace it with Z's music, and there you go!
For added bonus, you could edit the video as well and replace the censored scenes with Z's uncut scenes.
That would require not only purchasing the necessary software to do so, but it would require purchasing the entirety of Kai
and Z on DVD (not that I haven't contemplated doing exactly this). But yeah, you said
hardcore.
I'm too poor to be hardcore. :cry:
Not really. You don't need to buy Z at all. You only have to buy the Z OST.
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by Big Momma » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:43 pm
Zephyr wrote:Gaffer Tape wrote:I really hope people aren't stupid enough to drop down money just to see Dragon Ball Kai with more blood. If that doesn't solidify the negative stereotypes of the fandom, I don't know what will. I mean, at least it made sense back in the old day when FUNimation was censoring Z, but this is what Kai is originally like.
If they put the blood back
and add Z's soundtrack I would graciously spend money (and sell the older sets). But, that's never going to happen.
Why don't you just watch Z and skip the filler?
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by dan2026 » Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:02 pm
Big Momma wrote:Why don't you just watch Z and skip the filler?
That would be impossible, as 90% of the filler is woven into the canon.
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by Rocketman » Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:46 pm
Big Momma wrote:Why don't you just watch Z and skip the filler?
Repetitive Strain Injury from having to switch between "Play" and "Fastforward" so much.
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by Piccolo Daimaoh » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:20 pm
Big Momma wrote:
Why don't you just watch Z and skip the filler?
Thank you. I don't know how many times I've heard people say something like: "thank god that DBKai skipped the Garlic Junior arc. It sucked". Uhh, you can skip it in DBZ too. It's called the fast forward button.
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by KaiserNeko » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:45 pm
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Big Momma wrote:
Why don't you just watch Z and skip the filler?
Thank you. I don't know how many times I've heard people say something like: "thank god that DBKai skipped the Garlic Junior arc. It sucked". Uhh, you can skip it in DBZ too. It's called the fast forward button.
Yeeaah, but the Garlic Jr. is not nearly the worst of the filler. It's the long, tiresome stare-downs. It's added, unnecessary exposition. It's the incidental scenes that draw out 15 page chapters into ENTIRE EPISODES.
"Skipping the filler" is NOT. THAT. SIMPLE.
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by Piccolo Daimaoh » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:56 pm
KaiserNeko wrote:
Yeeaah, but the Garlic Jr. is not nearly the worst of the filler. It's the long, tiresome stare-downs. It's added, unnecessary exposition. It's the incidental scenes that draw out 15 page chapters into ENTIRE EPISODES.
It's still possible to fast forward through the stare-downs to when they actually start fighting. But, yes, I will agree that some filler scenes are hard to fast forward through.
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by KaiserNeko » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:07 pm
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:KaiserNeko wrote:
Yeeaah, but the Garlic Jr. is not nearly the worst of the filler. It's the long, tiresome stare-downs. It's added, unnecessary exposition. It's the incidental scenes that draw out 15 page chapters into ENTIRE EPISODES.
It's still possible to fast forward through the stare-downs to when they actually start fighting. But, yes, I will agree that some filler scenes are hard to fast forward through.
Yeah, but that's just extraneous. Some people want to watch a SHOW, not keep fast forwarding, then accidentally going too far, having to rewind, then press play again. Constantly. Just get rid of what shouldn't have been there in the first place and boom!
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by Cootie » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:21 pm
KaiserNeko wrote:Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:KaiserNeko wrote:
Yeeaah, but the Garlic Jr. is not nearly the worst of the filler. It's the long, tiresome stare-downs. It's added, unnecessary exposition. It's the incidental scenes that draw out 15 page chapters into ENTIRE EPISODES.
It's still possible to fast forward through the stare-downs to when they actually start fighting. But, yes, I will agree that some filler scenes are hard to fast forward through.
Yeah, but that's the extraneous. Some people want to watch a SHOW, not keep fast forwarding, then accidentally going too far, having to rewind, then press play again. Constantly. Just get rid of what shouldn't have been there in the first place and boom!
Also with the dub fans it is so much more than what it means to the Japanese. To them it is just Z without the filler, but to the dubbies (like me) it is a good script and great voice acting at last. If I was a fan of the Japanese I wouldn't have much interest in Kai. But as a dub fan it is just so much more than taking out a little filler.
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by Big Momma » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:22 pm
Then read the manga.
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by Kendamu » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:45 pm
KaiserNeko wrote:Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:KaiserNeko wrote:
Yeeaah, but the Garlic Jr. is not nearly the worst of the filler. It's the long, tiresome stare-downs. It's added, unnecessary exposition. It's the incidental scenes that draw out 15 page chapters into ENTIRE EPISODES.
It's still possible to fast forward through the stare-downs to when they actually start fighting. But, yes, I will agree that some filler scenes are hard to fast forward through.
Yeah, but that's the extraneous. Some people want to watch a SHOW, not keep fast forwarding, then accidentally going too far, having to rewind, then press play again. Constantly. Just get rid of what shouldn't have been there in the first place and boom!
I'm glad someone else has started saying that.
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by MR.Mark » Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:41 pm
Kendamu wrote:KaiserNeko wrote:
Yeah, but that's the extraneous. Some people want to watch a SHOW, not keep fast forwarding, then accidentally going too far, having to rewind, then press play again. Constantly. Just get rid of what shouldn't have been there in the first place and boom!
I'm glad someone else has started saying that.
I've brought this up time and time again too, the "fast forward" argument is really getting old now.
If DBZ's filler was all in the form of stand alone episodes that you could just skip, there'd be no problem or need for Kai in the first place.
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by GS7X7 » Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:50 pm
Why does all filler have to be treated as evil? Can't some of it be good? Is everything Toriyama did 100% epic and everything the rest of the cast did independent of him 100% fail?
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by KaiserNeko » Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:22 pm
GS7X7 wrote:Why does all filler have to be treated as evil? Can't some of it be good? Is everything Toriyama did 100% epic and everything the rest of the cast did independent of him 100% fail?
Not all of it is bad and not all of what Toriyama did was better, but MOST of it is unneeded, often contradictory, and usually detrimental to the pacing.
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by Kendamu » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:19 pm
GS7X7 wrote:Why does all filler have to be treated as evil? Can't some of it be good? Is everything Toriyama did 100% epic and everything the rest of the cast did independent of him 100% fail?
Some is good. There still is some in Kai and it doesn't really get in the way.
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by Piccolo Daimaoh » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:21 pm
GS7X7 wrote:Why does all filler have to be treated as evil? Can't some of it be good? Is everything Toriyama did 100% epic and everything the rest of the cast did independent of him 100% fail?
I guess that's just the mentality some people have. Same goes for stuff like GT.
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by B » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:49 pm
GS7X7 wrote:Why does all filler have to be treated as evil? Can't some of it be good? Is everything Toriyama did 100% epic and everything the rest of the cast did independent of him 100% fail?
Kai leaves in a fair deal of filler; people are praising it because it's cutting material that was sheer fluff. It's not a matter of "it wasn't in the manga; this is shit." It's "this was in the manga, and they ruined it."
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by GS7X7 » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:00 pm
Is Gohan's birthday in Kai? I also really like the stuff in that one failed engagement episode.
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by Kendamu » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:21 pm
GS7X7 wrote:Is Gohan's birthday in Kai? I also really like the stuff that one failed engagement episode.
Piccolo and 17 just fought in the Japanese broadcast of Kai. Gohan's birthday isn't until after Cell announces the Cell Game. I figure that, like pretty much all other complete filler episodes so far, it likely won't make the cut for Kai.
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:GS7X7 wrote:Why does all filler have to be treated as evil? Can't some of it be good? Is everything Toriyama did 100% epic and everything the rest of the cast did independent of him 100% fail?
I guess that's just the mentality some people have. Same goes for stuff like GT.
While some people don't like GT just to be in the majority, the majority is there for a reason. It's not as if some Japanese fans joke that "GT" means "Gomennasai, Toriyama-san," (We're sorry, Mr. Toriyama) for no reason.
