Censorship in new Dragonball Z manga Volumes.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:29 pm

Blastero wrote:I don't think anything was censored, but they added a stupid "Aaaah! It hurts!" line to the guy who got shot.

To rationalize a bit, I don't think the guy was shot in an instant-kill place, he probably would be able to live for a short while, and maybe talk.

TV's_JingWu · Post by **TV's_JingWu** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:39 pm

Rocketman wrote:To rationalize a bit, I don't think the guy was shot in an instant-kill place, he probably would be able to live for a short while, and maybe talk.

Yes, but they added a line to sugar-coat, meaning Viz is UNNECCESARILY TAMPERING with the manga material, like they do oh-so-often nowadays...which is BAD.

Gee, what a cheerful first post...

Post by **SaiyaJedi** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:37 am

Blastero wrote:I was at Waldenbooks the other day, and picked up the newest DBZ novel(didn't buy it, just skimmed it) from SJ to see what they did with certain things, and I actually had mixed feelings about the censorship. I was really curious to see what they did with the bank shooting, and they did and didn't do stuff. I don't think anything was censored, but they added a stupid "Aaaah! It hurts!" line to the guy who got shot. And Satan City is now "Herculetopia".

The "it hurts" line was there in the original. He also cries for his mommy.

But yeah, the Hercule stuff is pretty damn stupid.

TV's_JingWu · Post by **TV's_JingWu** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:50 am

...Nuts.

Well, I certainly made a fool of myself...

SaiyamanMS · Post by **SaiyamanMS** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:36 am

"Herculetopia"?!? WTF? I have to say that I prefer The video games's "Hercule City"... Actually, it's quite amusing in Budokai 3 when you go to "Hercule City" that while all the actual dialogue says "Hercule City" that there's a huge sign that reads "Satan City" in the background... XD

Caracal · Post by **Caracal** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:07 am

I agree it is annoying that Viz is censoring their manga in general. Heck, I heard the advanced line is censored as badly as the SJ line, even though it's intended for more mature readers. I kinda wished they'd censor the SJ version and keep the graphic novels pretty much uncensored. I mean do more kids read the graphic novels instead of SJ?

That or I think Viz should give Soccor Moms the finger and publish the manga uncensored, pointing out the manga isn't always uitable for five year old Billy.

I also agree that Hercule City would have been better than the rubbish they're using (though Satan City would have been perfect, but that's asking to much of Viz).

Blastero · Post by **Blastero** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:00 am

El_Diablo · Post by **El_Diablo** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:45 am

Isn't it "Herculopolis"?

Still just as stupid

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:20 pm

Yeah, he just makes noises originally, but I doubt they were trying to sugar coat it. They just wanted him to talk I guess >_>

Post by **SaiyaJedi** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:19 pm

Blastero wrote:
The "it hurts" line was there in the original
I think he was just groaning in pain in the original, where they put the "it hurts" line.

DB chapter 421 wrote:い…いで (A-... agh...)
いででで…!! (Ow-ow-ow-ow...!!)
ママ〜! (Mommy~!)

And there you go. While it's not quite saying "it hurts," he is clearly expressing his pain verbally. "Ide," derived from "itai," would have to be something like "ouch," though I suppose something that's almost a word would work as well.

Blastero · Post by **Blastero** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:41 pm

Post by **SaiyaJedi** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:31 pm

Blastero wrote:Ah. Well I guess that's kind of in the middle. I am suprised they kept the shooting in at all since just a few chapters ago a gun to the head was removed. Maybe this is more classified as action violence? I still think there's no way the 2 elderly people getting sniped in the head is going to go untouched.

I think they also get more leeway with things that are direct-to-graphic-novel, whereas things in the magazine have to be edited down, even if the rating would otherwise allow it (cf. toned-down language in T-rated titles like Naruto and One Piece).

Kodoshin · Post by **Kodoshin** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:18 pm

SaiyaJedi wrote: I think they also get more leeway with things that are direct-to-graphic-novel, whereas things in the magazine have to be edited down, even if the rating would otherwise allow it (cf. toned-down language in T-rated titles like Naruto and One Piece).

No doubt about it, the Saint Seiya manga (Knights of the Zodiac: Saint Seiya as Viz calls it) has a T rating but not a single art edit in it, this despite the fact that volume 3 has the most violent scene I've ever witnessed in anything.

Also while smoking and such seems to be often edited in the actual Jump Magazine itself (with the T rating) it's not edited in the A for All Ages rated Beet the Vandel Buster (Current favorite manga series BTW).

Bejiita · Post by **Bejiita** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:58 pm

What is wrong with Viz man?

This is 2005, someone else needed to buy the contract for the manga.

Oh well, I ain't gonna buy it.

SpaceKappa · Post by **SpaceKappa** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:00 pm

Regarding Beet, Volume 4 of the graphic novels has both a human and a huge whale getting their brains blown out in graphic scenes, and it's still rated "A" for all ages. WTF?

Post by **VegettoEX** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:11 pm

Mizugi wrote:Regarding Beet, Volume 4 of the graphic novels has both a human and a huge whale getting their brains blown out in graphic scenes, and it's still rated "A" for all ages. WTF?

They don't touch the stuff that no-one buys.

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:12 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
Mizugi wrote:Regarding Beet, Volume 4 of the graphic novels has both a human and a huge whale getting their brains blown out in graphic scenes, and it's still rated "A" for all ages. WTF?
They don't touch the stuff that no-one buys.

Lots of Yu-Gi-Oh's elements are still intact!

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:21 pm

DBZ had the A rating keeping its violence intact, including Android 20 ripping that guy's head off.

Blastero · Post by **Blastero** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:33 pm

Kanzenshuu

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