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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:13 pm

I love how she even has an amateurish art style. :lol:

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:21 pm

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JulieYBM wrote:Rather uneventful...
Not to mention rather badly translated.
I can't check the French, but I checked the Spanish version and it was worded nearly identically. So either both are badly translated or it is just an all-around weird page in French too.
Well if anything she is supposed to say King instead of Kind and it's not "Me who hate violence" it's "I, who hate violence." I think it would have been better if Pan use "don't" instead of "didn't" and if Arale said: "You have to enter the ring woman." I don't know how Arale speaks in Dr. Slump though.
AFAIK it's sequel "to" not "of", so the narration is also off.
Now I'm just nitpicking I know. :P

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:15 pm

The entire page translated from original french to english using Google translator(yeah I know I am extremely bored!xD)
Original:
T:Qu'elle est belle. U18B:On Dirait la grande soeur que je n'ai jamais eue. U18V:J'ai l'impression de l'avoir toujours connue. U18G:Dis donc, elle fait de l'effet sur cette famille. U18P:Papa j'ai rien compris. Elle peut pas avoir trois péres.
MS:Heuresement que j'ai fermé les yeux quand le roi a créé une lune. Je me serais transformée en Oozaru-Dragon-Poulpe-Ornithorynque géant. Moi qui déteste la violence. Mais je dois combattre, pour sauver mon peuple qui est maudit, mes amis en prison, mon double maléfique interdimensionnel, l'élu de la prophétie, la promesse que j'ai faite, et le bébé de Trunks, Piccolo, Goten et Vegeta que je porte.
?1:Quelle belle voix. ?2:Quelle terrible destinée. ?3:Je donnerais ma vie pour elle. U13K:Porte mon enfant. U13V: Ta gueule Kakarotto.
A:Hoyoyo. Il faut venir sur le ring, madam. N:Ne manquez pas les aventures de Mary Sue dans la suite de Dragonball Multiverse.
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Trunks: She is beautiful. U18 Bra: It looks like the big sister I never had. U18 Vegeta: I have the impression of having always known. U18 Gohan: Hey, it made an impression on this family. U18 Pan: Daddy I understood nothing. It can not have three fathers.
Mary Sue: Luckily I closed my eyes when the King has created a moon. I would have turned into Oozaru-Dragon-Platypus giant octopus. I, who hates violence. But I must fight to save my people who are cursed, my friends in prison, my interdimensional evil twin, the chosen of the prophecy, the promise I made, and Baby Trunks, Piccolo, Goten and Vegeta that I wear.
?1: What a beautiful voice. ?2: What a terrible fate. ?3: I would give my life for her. U13 Kakarotto: Carry my child. U13 Vegeta: Shut Kakarotto.
Arale: Hoyoyo. You must come in the ring, madam. Narrator: Do not miss the adventures of Mary Sue in the remainder of Dragonball Multiverse.
So as you can see the translation used for DBM is close to Googles version, but still a little better Salagir should consider getting better translators.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dayspring » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:02 pm

dbgtFO wrote:The entire page translated from original french to english using Google translator(yeah I know I am extremely bored!xD)
Original:
T:Qu'elle est belle. U18B:On Dirait la grande soeur que je n'ai jamais eue. U18V:J'ai l'impression de l'avoir toujours connue. U18G:Dis donc, elle fait de l'effet sur cette famille. U18P:Papa j'ai rien compris. Elle peut pas avoir trois péres.
MS:Heuresement que j'ai fermé les yeux quand le roi a créé une lune. Je me serais transformée en Oozaru-Dragon-Poulpe-Ornithorynque géant. Moi qui déteste la violence. Mais je dois combattre, pour sauver mon peuple qui est maudit, mes amis en prison, mon double maléfique interdimensionnel, l'élu de la prophétie, la promesse que j'ai faite, et le bébé de Trunks, Piccolo, Goten et Vegeta que je porte.
?1:Quelle belle voix. ?2:Quelle terrible destinée. ?3:Je donnerais ma vie pour elle. U13K:Porte mon enfant. U13V: Ta gueule Kakarotto.
A:Hoyoyo. Il faut venir sur le ring, madam. N:Ne manquez pas les aventures de Mary Sue dans la suite de Dragonball Multiverse.
Google translated:
Trunks: She is beautiful. U18 Bra: It looks like the big sister I never had. U18 Vegeta: I have the impression of having always known. U18 Gohan: Hey, it made an impression on this family. U18 Pan: Daddy I understood nothing. It can not have three fathers.
Mary Sue: Luckily I closed my eyes when the King has created a moon. I would have turned into Oozaru-Dragon-Platypus giant octopus. I, who hates violence. But I must fight to save my people who are cursed, my friends in prison, my interdimensional evil twin, the chosen of the prophecy, the promise I made, and Baby Trunks, Piccolo, Goten and Vegeta that I wear.
?1: What a beautiful voice. ?2: What a terrible fate. ?3: I would give my life for her. U13 Kakarotto: Carry my child. U13 Vegeta: Shut Kakarotto.
Arale: Hoyoyo. You must come in the ring, madam. Narrator: Do not miss the adventures of Mary Sue in the remainder of Dragonball Multiverse.
So as you can see the translation used for DBM is close to Googles version, but still a little better Salagir should consider getting better translators.
Trunks: She's so beautiful!

Bra: She's like the big sister I never had!

Vegeta: I feel like I've known her forever!

Gohan: Wow, she's really having an effect on this family!

Pan: Dad, I didn't understand any of that. She can't have three fathers...

Mary-Sue: Fortunately, I closed my eyes when the king had created a moon... I would have transformed into a giant Oozaru-Dragon-Octopus-Platypus... I, who detests violence... But I must fight to save my cursed people, my friends in prison, my evil interdimensional double, the chosen one from the prophecy, the promise I made, and the baby of Trunks, Piccolo, Goten and Vegeta that I am now carrying. (Note: Yes, that means she's pregnant and all four are the father)

Voice 1: What a lovely voice!

Voice 2: What a terrible destiny!

Voice 3: I'd give my life for her!

Voice 4: Have my baby!!!

Voice 5: Shut up, Kakarotto!

Arale: Hoyoyo... You have to enter the ring, lady! (Note: "Hoyoyo" is an expression Arale used often in Dr Slump to denote either "Huh?", "Whoa/Wow!" or "Uhhh/Ummm..." The punctuation in this case implies the latter.)

Narrator: Don't miss the adventures of Mary Sue in the next Dragon Ball Multiverse!! (Note: As in next page/chapter/episode, not sequel series)


This is some funny shit. :lol: I wonder why it didn't work on Gohan and Pan. Maybe she actually uses "Mary-Sue powers" for nefarious reasons in-story?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by jjgp1112 » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:53 pm

Jesus Christ...who the hell is translating this? And why doesn't Salagir just have you do it, Dayspring?
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:48 am

Yeah, this joke is completely lost on me.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kingdom Heartless » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:59 am

What sort of twisted sex practices are going on in Universe 2?

She's carrying Trunks' baby, but she's Bulma's sister.... and that's just for starters!
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Velasa » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:41 am

Oh people. That's the point- she's a nonsense character, truely.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:16 am

Kingdom Heartless wrote:What sort of twisted sex practices are going on in Universe 2?

She's carrying Trunks' baby, but she's Bulma's sister.... and that's just for starters!
I would like somebody to draw up a family tree for Mary Sue because I still can't quite figure it out.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kingdom Heartless » Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:00 am

TonyTheTiger wrote:
Kingdom Heartless wrote:What sort of twisted sex practices are going on in Universe 2?

She's carrying Trunks' baby, but she's Bulma's sister.... and that's just for starters!
I would like somebody to draw up a family tree for Mary Sue because I still can't quite figure it out.
There's no possible way for it to be figured out. :P
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by The Time Traveller » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:44 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Yeah, this joke is completely lost on me.
Mary-Sue is a name for fan characters that usually are beautiful, have tragic pasts, resemble the artist by name or appearance, and are all around incredible at everything by nature. And if they're fan characters they'll work their way into being related to a main character or two...

Like most bad fanfic characters.

And Bella from Twilight is a big Canonsue, like 99% of the characters.

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Post by Turtle Marked Stone » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:51 am

I thought the term "Mary Sue" was extremely well known. Huh, go figure.

Pretty funny stuff.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:08 am

The Time Traveller wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Yeah, this joke is completely lost on me.
Mary-Sue is a name for fan characters that usually are beautiful, have tragic pasts, resemble the artist by name or appearance, and are all around incredible at everything by nature. And if they're fan characters they'll work their way into being related to a main character or two...

Like most bad fanfic characters.

And Bella from Twilight is a big Canonsue, like 99% of the characters.
I get it, but it's just not funny.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Zephyr » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:27 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
The Time Traveller wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Yeah, this joke is completely lost on me.
Mary-Sue is a name for fan characters that usually are beautiful, have tragic pasts, resemble the artist by name or appearance, and are all around incredible at everything by nature. And if they're fan characters they'll work their way into being related to a main character or two...

Like most bad fanfic characters.

And Bella from Twilight is a big Canonsue, like 99% of the characters.
I get it, but it's just not funny.
But the fact that she could fit in perfectly on an episode of Jerry Springer is fucking hilarious.

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Post by SHINOBI-03 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:43 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Yeah, this joke is completely lost on me.
Really?! I got what the whole meaning. She is supposed to be character exaggerated in every possible way.

Getting to the real point here...
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jjgp1112 wrote:Jesus Christ...who the hell is translating this? And why doesn't Salagir just have you do it, Dayspring?
All of you should really stop complaining about the "crappy" translation. Why?! Because you ruin the mood and focus on translation differences and act like they've hired a FUNimation writer who inserts jokes everywhere instead of doing an accurate translation instead or a noob who uses online translation sites.

Translation is not 100% literal to original. So what? At least you get the point intended! Like when Yamcha was saying "give me your trust" to #18 and you bitch about it saying it should be "Please trust me. I'm on your side, here."?! Does it matter that much?! You still get what he wants to say! He's still asking her to trust him.

I mean, Geez!! If you REALLY are like that, take these two simple suggestions:
  • 1- Make an online petition saying you hate the current English translator and demand to replace it with whoever you want.
    2- Spam their inboxes with requests to change the English translator.
You don't like it? Here's a third suggestion:
  • 3- Stop reading them, and stick to the original French version! By doing that, you won't ruin everyone else's fun.
At least do something about it that pleases everyone here rather than constantly bitching and rambling about it and not doing anything to make it better!

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kingdom Heartless » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:51 am

And Bella from Twilight is a big Canonsue, like 99% of the characters.
What's funny is Bella is still a useless schmuck, despite that.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Xyex » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:42 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
The Time Traveller wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Yeah, this joke is completely lost on me.
Mary-Sue is a name for fan characters that usually are beautiful, have tragic pasts, resemble the artist by name or appearance, and are all around incredible at everything by nature. And if they're fan characters they'll work their way into being related to a main character or two...

Like most bad fanfic characters.

And Bella from Twilight is a big Canonsue, like 99% of the characters.
I get it, but it's just not funny.
Then you simply have no sense of humor. :P
SHINOBI-03 wrote:All of you should really stop complaining about the "crappy" translation. Why?! Because you ruin the mood and focus on translation differences and act like they've hired a FUNimation writer who inserts jokes everywhere instead of doing an accurate translation instead or a noob who uses online translation sites.

Translation is not 100% literal to original. So what? At least you get the point intended! Like when Yamcha was saying "give me your trust" to #18 and you bitch about it saying it should be "Please trust me. I'm on your side, here."?! Does it matter that much?! You still get what he wants to say! He's still asking her to trust him.
The complaint isn't that it's not 100% literal to the original. The complaint is that it's shitty grammar and, on the most recent page, also shitty spelling. I mean, KIND? This isn't something that requires a professional, just someone who actually knows the English language.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by jjgp1112 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:21 am

Yeah, I really don't care if they reword stuff...but the grammar is fucking terrible and everything is worded awkwardly to the point where a lot of the jokes, especially in this, are lost. Besides, I have no idea how to read French anyway, so how could I possibly know or care about what they say in the original French version? I mean, when the translation implies that the story's over when it's really just telling you to tune into the next page, there's a problem. The translation to this side story is much worse than even the one for the main comic.
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Post by Jaruka » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:17 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
The Time Traveller wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Yeah, this joke is completely lost on me.
Mary-Sue is a name for fan characters that usually are beautiful, have tragic pasts, resemble the artist by name or appearance, and are all around incredible at everything by nature. And if they're fan characters they'll work their way into being related to a main character or two...

Like most bad fanfic characters.

And Bella from Twilight is a big Canonsue, like 99% of the characters.
I get it, but it's just not funny.
Same here, it was okay as an intro and made me smile a bit but now it's just... They've taken it too far, that's all it is.

Though I knew people wouldn't take your original comment as "I don't get it"
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Post by Xyex » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:58 pm

Jaruka wrote:Same here, it was okay as an intro and made me smile a bit but now it's just... They've taken it too far, that's all it is.
How the hell is 2 pages too far? That's what I want to know. If this joke has been taken too far then every fight that isn't over in a page has gone on for too long, too. :?
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